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A “die hard MRA and hard rock fan” sends Rebecca Watson his drunken manifesto. Also, he’s 19.

You’re going to need one of these, dude.

People! Rebecca Watson of Skepchick has just received a most awesome drunken email manifesto from a hard-rockin young MRA by the name of Jimmy Zinn. Here are some selected excerpts, but you’ll want to go read the whole thing.

My name is Jimmy Zinn and I’m a die hard MRA and hard rock fan. I’m 19 years old, and I’m not to happy with the current state of affairs. I’ve decided to dedicate my life to what I’m calling the three revolutions- the hard rock revolution, the Men’s rights revolution, and the life extension revolution …

Two of these are indirectly pointed at people like you- bigoted feminists who marginialize and trivailize* the male gender, promoting sexist and discrimination attitudes, and fighting vivaciously for the very thing you vehemently claim to be so against- gender inequality.

Yes, he did say “fighting vivaciously.”

After a bit more manifestoing he tells Rebecca his (alleged) life story:

Things at home weren’t going particularly well- girls with lower GPAs and poor extra ciriculars were getting scholarships that boys with perfect 4.0s were not, and since I’, one of the poor privileged white males, I couldn’t afford college. Getting a job was tricky to- I was told on more than one occasion “we aren’t hiring white males right now.” … After 23 interviews/applications, I was left still jobless.

I also become of the privileged white males who developed heart problems at age 18, but of course, couldn’t afford a doctor. I was going to go to a free heart screening at a local college, but whoops…. “FEMALES ONLY”, courtesy of the “Women’s radical feminist men hating Heart association of a women-only America”, or whatever it was called.

Yeah, that totally happened.

So he hitched a ride on a freight train (allegedly) and headed to … Hollywood:

Rebecca, I am going to radical alter our society in the next year. I am going to start the greatest hard rock 1986 GNR-esqe band the world has ever seen. There is an army, millions strong, of angry people, and especially young males seething at the lack of justice and outlet for their rage. I fear a violent revolution is near, and I’m not in favor of that idea at all. Instead, why not give them a kick-ass 24/7 rock n roll party, tearing through the country with blistering blues-based rock, finally giving red-blooded masculinity a place in American culture again. I am going to fight the bigoted feminist you propagate, and start the largest social movement since the 60s…the Mens rights revolution.

I’m in hollywood right now, partying, crusin’ down sunset strip, spreading the MRA message …

We’re coming, Rebecca. The walls of mass social delusional, ignorance and apathy will crumble down as justice and non-autotuned music will triumph in the streets. You will fight back, I’m sure, but you will lose, and you will lose badly. In 3 years time, you WILL live in an American of true gender equality, but I’m not sure it’s going to take the direction you expect!

Go to Skepchick to read the rest!

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Shadow
Shadow
12 years ago

Wasn’t that New Kids on the block?

BlackBloc
BlackBloc
12 years ago

I guess nowadays Smashing Pumpkins and Nirvana have been retroactively deemed ‘too emo’ for Real Menz?

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
12 years ago

You’re free to hate them as much as you like, BlackBloc, it’s just that the kids don’t have to (and won’t) care.

Shadow
Shadow
12 years ago

I guess nowadays Smashing Pumpkins and Nirvana have been retroactively deemed ‘too emo’ for Real Menz?

Really? I’d always heard them being touted as serious bidness. I mean, I love em both so I’m biased, but I’ve never had to take shit for listening to them either.

swankivy
12 years ago

I wonder if “I’m sorry, we can’t hire you because you couldn’t spell ‘extracurricular’ correctly on your résumé wherein you claimed to have a 4.0 grade point average” translated in his mind to “we are not hiring white males right now.” Because . . . as others have pointed out . . . no one could actually say to you “we can’t/won’t hire you because you’re white,” any more than someone could say that to a black person and not risk getting sued. Not being able to discriminate “on basis of race” does indeed mean that you can’t be barred from being hired *because* of your race no matter what it is.

The fact that you probably come into interviews wearing an attitude that you deserve it does not really help. If you walk out of there sure that you didn’t get the job because of quotas even though nobody said that, what does that say about the nature of your assumptions?

Seriously. Things start to actually get a little more balanced out and you react by seeing “discrimination” in anything that is not reserved for you.

This guy needs to go take his fictional heart condition that would have been treatable if only he were a woman since that always happens, and star in a Bill and Ted movie, which is probably the only place in which rocking in a TOTALLY AWESOME WAY could actually make everything all better.

lauralot89
12 years ago

All I can say is wow.

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
12 years ago

If MRAs want to go both rock and super manly, they should totally check out Manowar. Actually if they did I think that would be the best thing ever – imagine the possibilities for MRA fan art! How do we make this happen?

cloudiah
12 years ago

@CassandraSays There was a terribly unfortunate trend in the 80s in the US of wearing a version of golf knickers, those pants that cuff just below the knee. I fell for it.

Then I fell for punk rock

cloudiah can’t stick the flounce! 🙂

Bee
Bee
12 years ago

GNR should be relegated to the dustbin of musical history. Like Poison. Or Creed.

Ah yes. Better known as the casino circuit.

girls with lower GPAs and poor extra ciriculars were getting scholarships that boys with perfect 4.0s were not, and since I’, one of the poor privileged white males, I couldn’t afford college. Getting a job was tricky to- I was told on more than one occasion “we aren’t hiring white males right now.”

I’m watching “Racist in the Year 3000” right now and was reminded of Jimmy Zinn. “Everything was fine until that goddamn black Jew lesbian tree-hugging Martian President Billins went and signed that goddamn Bill of Robot Rights.” Keep ’em coming, Gleep Glopp!

BlackBloc
BlackBloc
12 years ago

People can like what they want, I just can’t wrap my brain around them still registering in the collective unconscious still. I also have a hard time taking seriously someone who thinks that there’s been nothing masculine enough released in the last 20 years. Seriously? Angry white male music always pretty much has a shot at solid sales.

Any angry white male needs to take remedial music class right now if they can’t find something to latch on. Here’s something to start with.

Uncognitive
Uncognitive
12 years ago

I do have a name for his “greatest hard rock 1986 GNR-esqe band the world has ever seen”.

Sweet Child O’ Whine.

Ignatzkat
12 years ago

Ooh, 80s music thread? I didn’t catch these folks the first time around, but one time the singer from !!! lost his balance onstage and fell smack on top of me, for whatever that’s worth.

[youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9lDBTCuJeg&w=640&h=360%5D

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
12 years ago

First single is “I Used To Love Her, But I Had To Kill Her, And Now The Feminazi Justice System Is Persecuting Me For It”.

katz
12 years ago

Sweet Child O’ Whine.

Well played.

cloudiah
12 years ago

Early period MRA anthem

(how can we miss her if she won’t go away?)

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
12 years ago

Is it possible that they have yet to discover NuMetal? Because Fred Durst might just be the perfect MRA spokesmodel.

BlackBloc
BlackBloc
12 years ago

Well apparently he’s still stuck on the 80s catalogue, maybe he just didn’t get to NuMetal yet.

Bee
Bee
12 years ago

Early period MRA anthem

Early compared to what? Not James Brown, frex.

“You see, man made the cars to take us over the road
Man made the trains to carry heavy loads
Man made electric light to take us out of the dark
Man made the boat for the water, like Noah made the ark

This is a man’s, a man’s, a man’s world”

OSHIII
OSHIII
12 years ago

No way this kid is drunk. Slightly tipsy, maybe.

I’d also buy “wanted to seem awesome while not having to expend effort towards proper grammar and correct spelling,” and “still dumb enough to think saying you’re drunk off your ass = YOU ARE AWESOME”.

kladle
kladle
12 years ago

This is a man’s, a man’s, a man’s world

seranvali
12 years ago

David:

Thanyouthankyouthankyou! I really needed a good laugh.

Crumbelievable
Crumbelievable
12 years ago

Two of these are indirectly pointed at people like you

I get that one of those points is the men’s rights revolution…what does feminism have to do with the other two?

Nanasha
Nanasha
12 years ago

HUH?!

So, true story, my coworker’s long-term boyfriend goes to see doctors at Planned Parenthood. He had been having headaches and everyone around him was telling him not to worry, that migranes happen. He went to a doctor at PP, and she basically examined him, and told him to GET THE HELL OVER TO STANFORD FOR A BRAIN SCAN ASAP. The scan showed an aneurism, one that was about to blow- it would have killed him instantly. Thanks to a Planned Parenthood doctor, this man is alive and well after having brain surgery, and he still goes to see her even to this day.

So yeah. My cool (actually freaking happened) story cancels out this dude’s stupid argument that “we don’t take men” clinics exist.

Also, if someone actually TELLS you that they don’t hire white males, you can sue their asses for discrimination. This has actually happened at the County where I work- it’s considered sexual harassment and discriminatory practice and an employer can get in really deep shit for doing that.

My guess is that he went to his interview in ripped jeans and a crappy stained T-shirt, didn’t fill out his application completely, and then avoided eye contact and picked his nose during the interview. Being a white male doesn’t keep you from getting a job (and being white and male does not = instant job no matter what), it’s probably the other markers of behavior, dress and simply being out-qualified by someone with more experience. I’m sure there are probably non-white women who were passed over for that same job, even!

The entitlement- it reeks.

Nanasha
Nanasha
12 years ago

TL;DR- “Insert Penis, Get Job” is not how the job market operates.

Argenti Aertheri
12 years ago

lol, I’ve found one potentially true line of his rant —

“Indeed, it did appear that 90% of those waiting in the unemployment office were male.”

That’d be because they want you to do that online you dipshit — maybe he’s in a state that hasn’t gotten around to realizing that saves a lot of time and money, but more likely, he’s one of those dipshits who goes in person only to be pointed at the computer terminals (try the library dude, they’ve got A/C and the staff is friendlier)

His time frame on “Music sucks” of “over the last 20 years” is slightly off though, if he’s going to include years before he was born, the early 90s have nothing on the 80s. This is probably his issue with NuMetal though, it’s too new (or is it too Nu?)

Why can’t his point just be that autotune is not music? That’d be a valid point.