Is there something about being an MRA that makes you want to monologue like a cartoon supervillain?
Over on In Mala Fide, our dear friend Ferdinand Bardamu has responded in an amusingly monologuey manner to Arthur Goldwag’s followup to his earlier article for the Southern Poverty Law Center on the Men’s Rights movement. Bardamu whips himself into a bit of a lather, describing “Snerdling and his compadres” – for some reason he’s decided to call Goldwag “Snerdling” – as the
vanguards of a dying institution, desperately jamming their thumbs in the dike to keep the truth from drowning them. They’re on the losing side of history. Their shrieks are the shrieks of the dying and damned.
Their shrieks?
Oh, but there’s more. This earlier comment in Bardamu’s post is sort of a classic in the “implied threat” genre so beloved by MRAs like Paul Elam and his gang:
You’ve bitten off far more than you can chew here. You’ve antagonized the fastest-growing and most relevant movement/entity in America and the Western world. With every sling and arrow, the manosphere swells in size, a voice for the most powerful and deadliest force on Earth — the disenfranchised young man.
Emphasis mine.
Amazingly, in the very next paragraph, Bardamu waxes indignant that Goldwag had the gall to refer to “threat[s], overt or implicit, of violence” from MRAs. Bardamu responds with a big, insincere “who, me?”
I’ve made threats of violence? Leftists always pull this game — they never give specific examples … .
You want a specific example? LOOK AT WHAT YOU JUST WROTE IN YOUR LAST FUCKING PARAGRAPH. That bit about Goldwag allegedly antagonizing “the most powerful and deadliest force on Earth — the disenfranchised young man?” That is an implicit threat of violence. It’s kind of hard to miss.
You want to see more specific examples of threats from MRAs? I’ve got post after post full of them.
Heck, he doesn’t even need to look at Man Boobz. All he needs to do is to look at the comments on his own post, starting with the very first one:
SPLC: Thanks for kicking the sleeping dog,that dog needed to learn to bite rather than sleep.
Then he can scroll down the page for this more explicit threat from Brigadon:
I prefer practicing real, unmistakable violence.
Further down the page, in response to a feminist who has stopped by to call the IMF regulars on some of their bullshit, Brigadon elaborates further:
I have called it a ‘war’ before, and I will again. It is not a cold war, it is a hot war, with constant and socially-approved violence against men. The only way to fight a hot war is with violence. …
So, maybe it sounds like a call for violence, but at this point any woman that calls herself a ‘feminist’, regardless of their protests that they are ‘not like those other ones’ Is a criminal, a traitor to their species, their culture, their honor, their family, their nation, their gender, and their world. There is only one punishment that fits a traitor.
How dare Goldwag suggest that MRAs ever threaten violence!
Apollo, meanwhile, somehow manages to overlook the threatening language in Bardamu’s post and suggests that the real threatmongers are … you and me:
[T]he Internet is full of people making violent threats. … Yet in the Manosphere, where I think real injustices are being brought to light, and people surely have a right to anger, you will NOT see the threats of violence that are so very common in so many other places of the Internet. When such a violent comment does pop up in the Manosphere, it is usually very quickly squashed by mods. And any such comments stand out simply because of how rare they are.
Yet one visit to Manboob, or any other Feminist site, and you will be able to quickly be able to find threats of violence. The blatant hypocrisy here is just sickening
[Citation Needed]
Also, though this is a whole other kettle of beans, the fact that Goldwag is Jewish seems to have inspired a number of the anti-Semites in the In Mala Fide crowd to crawl out from under their rocks – one of them being our old pal JeremiahMRA, who weighs in with a comment calling Goldwag a “creepy Jew,” in two words combining anti-Semitism with “creep shaming,” which in the weird world of the manosphere is the most hateful kind of hate ever perpetrated upon any mortal soul. (Goldwag offers a brief but pointed response to Bardamu’s post, and to the anti-Semitism, on his own blog.)
Is any of this really surprising on a blog whose name means “In Bad Faith?”
Someone posted this in the comments a while ago, and I couldn’t help but think of it as I wrote this post:
Yes, MRAs, you ARE the baddies.
Feminist violence by proxy, stopped by MRM activism:
http://www.fathersandfamilies.org/2012/04/12/me-bar-counsel-recommends-discipline-for-ada-mary-n-kellett/
Any questions?
That reminds me: I just donated to the Southern Poverty Law Center. This is a great time to give to that worthy organization:
http://www.splcenter.org/
@abeille
Yes, they are neutured. Damn it, I just can’t escape from all this misandrist oppression!
Uh I spelled neutered wrong. Sorry.
I have a question, Antz: If you hate women so much, why are you hiding behind a computer telling us about your fetishes for female enslavement rather than out creating your virtual reality bullshit?
Antz,
One instance of judicial misconduct doesn’t prove your point. Women are people, and sometimes they make mistakes, just like MEN. Get a life.
Zarat, I work with lawyers. I know of one who was disciplined by the state bar because he had his mistress pretend to be his wife in order to call the court and her lawyer’s firm trying to obtain private information during their divorce proceeding. For every example of a “bad” female lawyer I can give ten examples of “bad” male lawyers. So, no, I don’t have any questions. You’re still a pathetic, hateful little toad.
My God, a case where a man was tried by an overzealous prosecutor, and then he won on appeal! It’s just like the holocaust!
+1
Hmmm…looked at tat link and looked up the prosecuter in question and am even more then ever convinced that the MRM is the abusers lobby….the only bad things are on mra sites and they have made fake profiles for her saying she loves falsy accusiing innocent men and is a “lawyercunt”…supposidly she prosicuted a poor innocent man whose wife accused him of domisticate violence but of course he didn’t do this! Because……..
look her up especially the results on google images……this is a vendetta with men trying to protect an abuser
Antz, maybe this will help you: calming images of manatees. And no, clicking will NOT lead you to any disturbing images, unless you are disturbed by images of manatees with soothing text.
Not saying that maybe she wasn’t overly zealous…however it’s interesting that its only MRA sites that use propagandist language that are trying to disbar her, and they also are using abusive ways to show their point…it makes me really really suspicious that this was an innocent person she prosecuted
Whomever said the thing about vegan brains gets +100 internet.
Arks: Any questions?
What’s the best place in Maine to get a Moose Burger?
Now that we’ve discovered that what you call “violence by proxy” is merely enforcing the laws, and that what you ignore is real calls to violence, the next question is…
Why should we listen to a word you say?
Cloudia, thanks for that link, I am feeling very calm as it happens. (I wonder if any of them are hot buttered?)
Bee, I think EEB’s nym are hir initials. I might have stumbled across hir blog, and I rather liked it.
Pecunium, AntZ =/= Arks. Arks is usually more amusing.
Completely OT, but I may have found Antzy’s new bride. Or new mother in law, if he wants to wait for the next generation.
Toysoldier has written a response to Goldwag. I am afraid to try to read it.
Crap, I meant to say Antz. Antz is a mixed bag on entertaining. Sometimes he talks about geography.
it sounds like mary kellet may have been overzealous in her prosecution, but if that’s true it’s also true that the system worked, so i don’t understand why mras keep getting so worked up about it
Sharculese, I think its metaphorical.
Kellet represents all women, everywhere.
The system represents MRAs.
MRAs > women.
executive summary: the splc screwed up by writing about people who are not True Scotsman, instead of focusing on me, toysoldier, the most wonderfulest and super-special person on the planet.
he also claims he’s not casting aspersions on goldwag personally, and then immediately turns around and accuses him of ‘intellectually dishonest cowardice’ because that i just how toysoldiers rolls.
I know a backwards bee when I see a backwards bee!
YES. THIS.
It’s hard to tell what’s going on with Kellett or Filler, without more information. There’s plenty of BAD info out there — including that piece by Robert Franklin “Esq.,” who presumably doesn’t know how to research state statutes (among other things), as well as its companion piece in AVFM, which helpfully misunderstands the nature of bar disciplinary actions. But given the MRM’s quickness to protect white straight men at all costs and demonize women at every opportunity — as well as the Maine Supreme Court’s rather tepid description of the lower court’s errors in its 2010 opinion — I’m inclined to think that this is another example of the MRM working itself into a lather just because … that’s what the MRM does. And of course this is not determinative, but Fathers and Families Director Glenn Sacks’ support does little to convince me of Vladek Filler’s innocence (see Sacks’ heartwarming work bullying other abused families here.)
@bee
according to the article antz linked, it’s OBVIOUS to sacks that filler is innocent and his ex-wife is crazy. so yeah, that about sums it up.
Antz,
Hil-arious, the idea that one person’s mistake reflects on an ENTIRE gender. It’s almost as if they’re not individuals at all! You come here looking for an audience, and all you get is a mirror. The point, as Shakesville put so well, you are proving it.
Don’t you know that if a guy says he is completely innocent of abuse and that his wife is a lying bitch that is the only evidence you need toward his innocence? Why abusive voicemail and emails, that can be fabricated! IT’s a conspiricy! Judges and prosecuters need to be over zealous sometimes or tragedys like this happen:
http://voices.yahoo.com/baby-wyatt-garcia-judge-lemkau-may-lose-james-hosking-5513763.html?cat=9