You may recall a post I did the other day about Roger Ebert’s recent claim that women are superior to men. You may also recall that my basic thesis was that Ebert was completely wrong. Heck, you didn’t even have to read my post to see what my stance was; I made it clear in the title itself, which started off with the words “no, women aren’t better than men.”
Well, apparently my saying explicitly that women are not superior to men, and approvingly quoting another feminist saying the same thing, was too much to handle for the proprietor of an exciting new blog chronicling how wrong and bad I and my commetariat are. Mikhael Varpole of the imaginatively named Anti-Man Boobz blog (motto: “Exposing Man Boobz as a vile hate cult”) wrote about Ebert’s claim, and my response, in a recent post.
Here’s what he wrote:
Naturally, Futrelle and the boob gallery had to get in on the action. To his credit, Futrelle doesn’t condone Ebert’s misandry- but then again Dave’s always been a sneaky one that way. He won’t stand in solidarity with Ebert- but note that he’s happy to spin an instance of bold-faced misandry into an opportunity to bash MRAs who are righteously angry, ultimately concluding:
Guys, I hate to have to tell you this, but you’re sort of making it look like Ebert might have a point.
Remember what I said about subtle bigotry? This is a prime example. Misandry and misandric attitudes are dismissed in our culture because the concept itself is seen as illegitimate. And by portraying AVfM’s righteous anger as childish and “proving Ebert’s point”, Futrelle is knowingly and consciously destroying the legitimacy of misandry as a concept. It’s psychological manipulation on a global scale, and it’s downright sinister. And Futrelle, along with his lickspittle toadies, are happily contributing to the anti-male conspiracy.
Yes, explicitly stating that women aren’t superior to men is an exceedingly subtle form of misandry indeed.
Oh, and in case you’ve forgotten what the allegedly “righteous” anger of the AVFM crowd looks like, here’s are a couple of excerpts from the angry screeds I quoted from in my post:
Feminism has provided today’s pampered princesses with the privilege-stuffed, consequence-free Nirvana that they believe they’re entitled to. Do you really think they can be swayed with reason and logic?
And:
[E]verything on this earth from the knickers these women wear on their fat buts, all the way through to just about every single thing they touch in their day, up to and including homes, buildings, cars, trains, rockets, and the food they stuff down their throats, has all been either invented or produced by those useless ‘less than’ human, men.
That doesn’t sound so much like “subtle bigotry” as “just straight-up bigotry.” This is anger of an exceedingly un-righteous kind.
Well, after receiving some gentle mockery at the hands of the Man Boobz commetariat – sorry, at the hands of my “lickspittle toadies” – Varpole posted a comment here trying to clarify his stance.
I disdain commenting here for obvious reasons, but I have to clarify that subtle or “benign” misandry can be as damaging as overt bigotry- moreso, even, because it’s harder to call out. Radfem-level misandry can usually be dismissed (usually). But less overt displays of male-hatred are very difficult, because the concept has no veracity in a misandric, male-hating, anti-man culture. A culture, by the way, that MEN set up, and MEN continue to run, at both the low and high levels.
Well, this is an interesting thesis. Men – sorry, MEN – created the world as we know it, and run things – and yet have decided to set up a culture that is “male-hating [and] anti-man.” How would that even work?
After several commenters – sorry, toadies – asked him to explain this mysterious paradox, Varpole posted a clarification of his clarification on his blog.
First, I admit that “men maintain the culture” is an oversimplification. Obviously, that’s not true- certainly not today, arguably not ever. There are women police officers, women in government, women farmers, women firefighters, etc. Women do contribute to the maintenance of civilization. Not as much as men, but nonetheless.
On the other hand, women, feminists, and their assorted mangina lackeys have a disproportionate influence in the media and pop culture. Feminists and their dogs control the messages beamed at us through music, video games, and Hollywood. They have the print news media. They control primary education (how many teachers are men?) and thus the shaping of our youth. The infamous SOPA was almost certainly backed by feminists, in an attempt to bring the Internet (not coincidentally, the primary holdout of MRAs) under their control. Even when it is a male hand holding the pen, a male voice speaking into the mic, they are generally manginas who kowtow to female demands (see: Roger Ebert; Bill Clinton; H.L. Mencken). Thus, they are mouthpieces for the misandrist NWO, and are not in any way representative of men as a class; it’s just a different mechanism for the female perspective. …
I’m not saying thy’re calling for mass castration or anything like that (such a move would be too obvious). But there is a systematic denigration of men and masculinity in the media, and a subtle promotion of a misandrist, feminist, female supremacist ideology. In the news, in television, movies, literature, comic strips- we see the epidemic with our own eyes.
Huh. MEN created and still run the world, but “women, feminists, and their assorted mangina lackeys” dominate the media and popular culture with their evil anti-man agenda? There’s no getting around it: Varpole seems to be suggesting that MEN are just terrible at running the world.
Wouldn’t such an argument be … misandry?
Not even subtle misandry, at that.
I look forward to more blatant misandry from Anti-Man Boobz in the future.
As well as some critiques of his misandry from a mysterious, even newer blog that sprung up the other day: Anti-Anti-Manboobz, devoted to debunking Anti-Man Boobz and being meta as fuck.
Wheels within wheels.
@lowquacks — I mentally changed Aragorn to Strider until about the middle of the second book…and I was like 16. (And then I’d just get confused when one of the hobbits would call him Strider after that >.< )
Also, the troll on the other thread made me decide the manboobz mocking people are the Riders of Rohan — "riding against the face of evil with nary a second thought — and they’re a large group, so we can all be Riders"
Wow, look who’s here!
http://qkme.me/3pd3t6
Haha, I’m having so much fun on that meme. Upvote all the ones we made so they take over the “most popular” section!!
So… Players like Bill Clinton and the whole PUA-movement are Manigmas too? That guy is really trying his hardest to build an MRA community of one via exclusion.
And the “Video Games are Feminist”-argument is pretty tarded. I mean, it took three Mass Effect games and a whole lot of whining before Femshep became official and represented in the ads.
(Not sure if my comment went through)
The problem with your title is about the way your write it and the idea you imply, not so much about some misandry.
1) It is usually better to have an affirmative sentence than a negative one. You say women aren’t better than men, but are they equal ? are they less ? You let the field free for controversy (and it happens. Magic !)
2) All people are human beings, and it trying to judge their value that is degrading whatever the answer you find to the question. It doesn’t matter what size, shape, color, organs, mind you have : you are a human being and that’s it.
Regarding the two previous remarks, a better answer would be “Both men and women are human beings and equally valuable. Trying to judge them is a nonsense”
An analogy (valid ?) would be to consider the question : “Where is the end of the earth ?”. You can discuss it, try to find a place that will satisfy everyone and hurt no one. Even this place will be wrong, because the truth is : there is no end.
You can do it with the best intention in mind, the question can’t be valid anyway. 🙂
Have a good day !
>You think he’ll get the point?
What you have to understand is that the whole Humanist/Equalist-spiel is basically aimed at co-opting the all-powerful feminist political machinery for their own ends. They’re sorta like Nazis telling some random Jew that he should let them gentiles in on the Jewish World Gouvernment.
Yeah, we got it.
Well said, Dave.
Did you honestly expect a loglical response from these soon to be extinct morons?
Loki and Q? That could be fun.
“Did you honestly expect a log”ical response from these soon to be extinct morons?”
If feminists still haven’t gotten extinct yet, despite how disagreeable they are to average heterosexual males, then surely masculinists will not go extinct either anytime soon, since average heterosexual females are even more notorious for being attracted to and aroused by males who they otherwise spend all their time bitching about…
You might wanna lose the eugenics angle there, Sandra.
yeah, but what does that have to do with the whiny ass titty-babies who make up the mrm?
“On the other hand, women, feminists, and their assorted mangina lackeys have a disproportionate influence in the media and pop culture. Feminists and their dogs control the messages beamed at us through music, video games, and Hollywood.”
Music: Many popular rappers have extremely misogynistic songs. But, even if we ignore the rappers, I still don’t see how feminists control the music industry.
Video games: Oh, goody! My specialty (I’m a game designer)! Does this guy even play games? Most games have a male protagonist, and many games have ridiculously-proportioned women. Even though female characters are getting better, there are still some gender issues to fix. Also, the industry is EXTREMELY male-dominated. I’m often one of the few females in my game development classes, and one of the few in the entire Simulation & Digital Entertainment program. I can’t believe he even used this as an example. He must not play many games.
Hollywood: Once again, how often do we see female protagonists in blockbuster films? Also, when there’s a male protagonist, women are expected to identify with him, whereas men aren’t expected to identify with a woman (because, you know, a primarily female cast = “chick flick”). “Brave” is currently the only Pixar movie to star a girl (and she’s a fierce, red-headed, non-sexualized archer). It took Pixar a long time to have a female protagonist, and Pixar has some amazing, open-minded people working on movies. That says something.
Guys he posted another one:
http://antimanboobz.wordpress.com/2012/05/20/the-wrath-of-boobzland/
Jumbofish, snowy, hellkell, and argenti are mentioned for being so mean to Chris
This hate-crush is sooo cute.
omg hahahaha I couldn’t resist but to comment~ XD
Where is anti anti manboobz when you need it!?
omg is he still obsessing over the chris thing?
Hahaha awww were we mean to Chris? I want to know more about the sad fate of that poor astute individual!
I like that his thing is that manboobz is a hate cult. He also claims he is taking “bigots down” through cowardly posting his stuff on another site never daring to venture here once. XD
*okay well he appeared once but he left so quickly so it doesn’t count!
I asked him if that was the place for ating advice.
^dating.
Aw, what? I was totally a meanie head to Chris! Where are my props?