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A Brony has some truly horrifying questions about rape

I have no words:

Is Mr. Sookdeo trolling here? Over on Bronysay, where I found this, someone claiming to know him says he was serious, just a bit “confused.” The questions seem sincere to me. Ugh.

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Cliff Pervocracy
9 years ago

I like Fluttershy! Because she’s sweet, but also because her shyness is (mostly) treated as a character trait to be respected, not as a weakness she always has to overcome.

I suppose from another point of view it means she’s a good girl who doesn’t cause the menfolk any trouble or something. Ugh.

Brian Connors
9 years ago

I’m going to go ahead and guess this guy is genuinely stupid.

pujeemuhs
pujeemuhs
9 years ago

That question and most of the comments that follow it is why I’m a man-hating misandrist. It’s a perfectly sound position based on real life observation.

Runic
Runic
9 years ago

I honestly wouldn’t bother with metaphors or other attempts to try to explain the logic of basic social interaction to this guy. The only way this would not be a monumentally stupid question is if the person asking it is not actually a human, but rather a hyper advanced spambot that has somehow spontaneously developed sentience and is trying to piece together an understanding of human social interaction with its only context being the millions of advertisements for hardcore fetish pornography and penis enlargement pills programed into its electronic brain.

If that is in fact the case then I think it’s a valid question and deserves an honest answer. But I strongly suspect that the person who posted this is really one of us squishy flesh and blood organics, and should probably not be allowed to handle sharp objects unsupervised least he accidentally disembowel himself with it. He is exhibiting a level of willful ignorance that borders on parody. We should start him off with something a little more basic, such as episodes of Sesame Street or Barney.

red_locker
9 years ago

Oh, why do fandoms have to be full of fucks like them?

pillowinhell
9 years ago

And people wonder why so many feminists talk so often about rape, rape culture or consent.

Viscaria
Viscaria
9 years ago

@Kyrie:

I need to pet a cat. :((

Word.

pujeemuhs
pujeemuhs
9 years ago

Gawker just published a piece yesterday about how rape jokes are funny and if you’re the sensitive type you should just be careful about what media you personally consume, because the effects of making light of rape stops as soon as the joke is over, apparently.
Of course they were talking about jokes about raping women.
If someone were to joke about raping men in prison or altar boys, those hypocritical fucks would have a shit fit.

Cliff Pervocracy
9 years ago

I’d have more mixed opinions about rape jokes if I ran into any that were joke jokes. Instead they all just seem to involve saying “rape is awesome I totally want to rape someone” and demanding people laugh.

thebewilderness
thebewilderness
9 years ago

I find an extra helping of creepy in the fact that he is asking about why girls don’t like to be raped. Not women. Girls.

GingerSnaps
GingerSnaps
9 years ago

There has been one rape joke that I have come across in my life that didn’t make me want to vomit, and that was because the punchline wasn’t “hahahah RAPE, you guys!” but rather “hahahah nobody takes rape seriously but we’re actually laughing because we’re uncomfortable because this is too horrible to face without joking, and isn’t that just fucked up?”

Dracula
Dracula
9 years ago

Man, what in the living fuck is wrong with people?

I’ve actually started watching MLP recently. It’s a pretty good show, and it saddens me that creepy, clueless fucks like this fella have latched onto it.

darksidecat
9 years ago

The only thing worse than that question is the answers (except maybe Caroline Pinkie Pie’s and Reba’s)

LexieDi
LexieDi
9 years ago

As a pegasister, I just want to say… no. Just no.

It pains me to no end to see that people so fucking clueless about other people are connected with something I really love.

Even when it’s not connected to something I love, I really hate that people can be so dumb.

Unimaginative
Unimaginative
9 years ago

Proving once again that they really, truly, fundamentally DO NOT comprehend what rape is. Gag.

seranvali
9 years ago

*Blinks* Well, I’ve seen a lot of world class stupid this week and this is right up there with the best (or worst, depending on your point of view).

alt+3
alt+3
9 years ago

Re: good rape analogy

I think it might be useful to remove the element of enjoyment and focus just on consent. I think a good analogy is a dentist. My dentist is one of the only people in the whole wife world that is allowed to put his fingers in my mouth. I may or may not enjoy it but that’s irrelevant here, I’ve given him permission to put his fingers in my mouth. And, even though I’ve had this done dozens of times in mt life (with different dentists no less!) I would still feel profoundly violated it some random stranger forced his fingers into my mouth. Hell, even the dentists permission to do this is conditional. If he came into the lobby and tried to do that I’d flip right out. In fact, I can be in his office, IN THE CHAIR, with prior consent and everything, and if I suddenly don’t want his hands in my mouth he has to stop.

Shiraz
Shiraz
9 years ago

There are two possibilities here:

One, He may be pulling a Daniel Tosh routine. You know, that intensely mediorce comedian who hosts Tosh.0? He’s always saying sexist/racist things under the guise of, “I’m pretending not to know how offensive this is — that’s why it’s so hilarious!!!” For example, Tosh once remarked on a woman’s A-cup bra size with, “A cups? You don’t even qualify as a woman!” He said it with a straight face, then the audience groaned and then a shit-eating grin spread across his pasty face.

Or two, he’s a dumbass who actually doesn’t understand how consent changes the entire ballgame……though I bet he could. If he suddenly found himself spending a signifigant time in prison for example, I’d bet he’d see the light.

Jessay (@jessay)
9 years ago

We don’t like rape because society tells us to… I’m sure he has the same opinions on assault, murder, theft, etc. He wouldn’t mind being murdered if this backwards society and the ridiculous norms we impose didn’t tell him he should!

blothne
blothne
9 years ago

Ugh…this reminds me of a thread that broke out on a link I posted, where the male friend of my best friend ended up telling her she was partly responsible for her rape by a male ex-friend. I then witnessed a twelve-year friendship end there and then. Seems like something similar might happen with Sookdeo and his female friends.

ABNOY
ABNOY
9 years ago

For the post-4chan generation, rape is “surprise sex” or “sex by surprise”. It’s even on urbandictionary.com.

Nanasha
Nanasha
9 years ago

Then there’s the whole “Princess Molestia” meme which involves Princess Celestia as a raping molesting douchebag. *sigh*

This is why we can’t have nice things, Internet.

I thought that this show was supposed to teach you how to walk a mile in someone else’s shoes and be more understanding of differences. I guess I was wrong.

EEB
EEB
9 years ago

@ABONY: I don’t have words to express my hatred for the “surprise sex” thing. And it pops up in places where it really, really shouldn’t, like fandom spaces dominated by women. Of course, I’m uptight when I point out that it’s really offensive.

Sometimes I hate the internet.

Nanasha
Nanasha
9 years ago

I posted the link on my local Brony group and all the people on it (mostly guys, mind you) denounced the guy and his nasty thoughts. Most of them were “Uh, it’s rape, THAT is why they wouldn’t like it” or something similar.

I figured it was a fucking elementary school concept that forcing people to do things that they don’t want to do and violating their right to bodily integrity is a DEEPLY WRONG THING.

*headdesk*

Vindicare
Vindicare
9 years ago

@Rachael:

I mean, why do guys hate receiving forced anal sex? I mean, it’s SEX, right? And sex is fun! And I’ll reach around, I promise.

I think they should just relax and enjoy it, and stop worrying about how society tells them it’s wrong.

Pegging or what? Not a good analogy… what straight guy likes pegging, that’s gay.

Wetherby
Wetherby
9 years ago

I once saw someone asking what was wrong with child porn, apparently seriously.

Under intensive cross-examination, it turned out that his ideas of what constituted “child porn” amounted essentially to family snapshots of naked children. In fact, I suspect his notion of adult porn was essentially Playboy.

But I don’t think he’ll be asking that question again. Let’s just say that people posted some rather graphic verbal descriptions of what he appeared to be defending, and leave it discreetly at that.

jumbofish
9 years ago

Pegging or what? Not a good analogy… what straight guy likes pegging, that’s gay.
wrongggg again! Anal sex is not an exclusive gay thing you know.* Plus care to say whats so wrong with being gay?

fuck off

*I know that you know it is not just a gay thing though. Your pathetic homophobia in attempt to troll has been noted.

jumbofish
9 years ago

*fixes

Pegging or what? Not a good analogy… what straight guy likes pegging, that’s gay.

wrongggg again! Anal sex is not an exclusive gay thing you know.* Plus care to say whats so wrong with being gay?

fuck off

*I know that you know it is not just a gay thing though. Your pathetic homophobia in attempt to troll has been noted.

Tosca
Tosca
9 years ago

The only rape joke I remember liking was Wanda Sykes’s “detachable pussy” routine. But that’s because she spoke from the woman’s POV and was never like “rape, yay!”
I have a feeling this guy know damn well rape is wrong, but he wants to get everyone talking about it because he gets off on it. Sick, but common. “So tell me in all kinds of details what about rape makes it wrong, hehehe.” Ugh.

Oh, and, I know it’s a troll and I shouldn’t feed it, but consensual pegging: STILL NOT RAPE. Uh, DUH. Non-consensual pegging would be rape because non-consensual ANYTHING (as it pertains to personal bodily integrity and respecting boundaries) is rape.

lauralot89
9 years ago

First Vindicare fails at thermodynamics, and now at understanding sexuality.

Any guess for what’s next?

Ruby Hypatia
Ruby Hypatia
9 years ago

The idea that women can enjoy rape is one of the stupidest things I’ve ever heard, Rape is sex against one’s will. If you will it, it’s not rape. Of course I’m speaking of adults.

jennydevildoll
9 years ago

Someone said he was “serious”??? Ok. I think this brony needs a trip to the glue and gelatin factory.

Dani Alexis
Dani Alexis
9 years ago

“Why don’t women want to do something that is defined by not wanting to do it?”

I had a high school economy class where one period, I shit you not, some kid asked the teacher why diabetics don’t just make their own insulin.

I’m reminded by The Most Helpful Advice You Can Ever Give Someone With Insomnia, Ever, which is of course “You just need to get some sleep!”

*headdesk**headdesk**headdesk* YES. THAT IS THE PROBLEM. WOULD YOU LIKE YOUR GENIUS COOKIE NOW?

Dani Alexis
Dani Alexis
9 years ago

Or reminded OF said advice, even.

Vindicare
Vindicare
9 years ago

lauralot89, what about quantum mechanics? Schrodinger’s rapist? I’m working on a theory, that it’s advisable not to look back in the dark alley, your act of measurement might collapse the rapist’s wave function.

Cliff Pervocracy
9 years ago

Yes, Vindicare, you’re very shocking. Sooo edgy.

Check this out: HITLER VAGINA POOP RAPE DEAD BABIES MORE POOP DOUBLE HITLER

I am literally the funniest person on the Internet right now

Rutee Katreya
9 years ago

Fun fact: SHroedinger’s Cat was actually an attempt to make quantum mechanics seem ridiculous.

Vindicare
Vindicare
9 years ago

But why has Griffith’s book the cat on it’s cover?

QuantumSparkle
QuantumSparkle
9 years ago

Welp, that’s a quantum mechanics fail if I ever saw one. F. Vindicare, see me after class.

1. A person in an alley is not a quantum mechanical system.
2. A wave function is a meaningless description of a single system in the absence of an ensemble of states, because a wave function is the description of the probabilistic nature of microscopic discrete states.
3. Even if “being a rapist” were a quantum mechanical observable and there were a wave function associated with a person, the act of “looking at the person” would not actually constitute a measurement of whether they were a rapist. As such, no, it wouldn’t “collapse their wave function”. Simultaneous observables.

Don’t try to use physics for stupid trolling purposes. I saw your gross misunderstanding of thermodynamics earlier, too. If you want to sound smart, it helps to BE smart…

Argenti Aertheri
Argenti Aertheri
9 years ago

“First Vindicare fails at thermodynamics, and now at understanding sexuality.
Any guess for what’s next?”

Gravity, if he can’t follow well understood physics, he’s going to have serious issues figuring that one out.

And Vindicare, homophobia aside as that’s already been addressed, some straight men like getting their prostate involved.

“The only rape joke I remember liking was Wanda Sykes’s “detachable pussy” routine.” — lol, yes, that one is excellent.

A non-rape thought on “surprise sex” — surprise dear/already-a-sex-partner I’m in the mood, you? (ala, surprise, I made cookies, you want some? no? more for me then!)

Argenti Aertheri
Argenti Aertheri
9 years ago

Context fail as I just woke up — that last bit is meant in the context of having already been discussing it but getting something like “ehh, maybe later, I have homework” — where you’d already be expecting the “and I’m done with that, you still interested?”

red_locker
9 years ago

Huh. Looks like QuantumSparkle has that name for a reason. 😉

See, Vindicare, the internet isn’t just a place for ignorant asshats.

OSHIII
OSHIII
9 years ago

Fundamental Principle of the Internet: BRONIES RUIN EVERYTHING.

lauralot89
9 years ago

If you want to sound smart, it helps to BE smart…

I want to cross stitch this and hang it on my wall.

aceofsevens
9 years ago

He doesn’t have an age listed on Facebook, but he seems to be a kid. That’s why he presumably doesn’t know shit.

M Dubz
M Dubz
9 years ago

DAMMIT boys this is why we can’t have nice things.

… take it Rainbow Dash

Vindicare
Vindicare
9 years ago

QuantumSparkle:

Don’t try to use physics for stupid trolling purposes. I saw your gross misunderstanding of thermodynamics earlier, too. If you want to sound smart, it helps to BE smart…

So what exactly was my mistake in thermodynamics?

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Alpha Asshole Cock Carousel
9 years ago

what straight guy likes pegging, that’s gay.

I do. If you want to call me gay, be my guest. In the meantime I’ll go back to having hot, monogamous sex with my wife and getting boners from looking at hot women but not from looking at dudes.

PS. No, I’m not secretly gay.

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Alpha Asshole Cock Carousel
9 years ago

Ergh. Blockquote fail. My web designer cred just took a nosedive.

Vindicare
Vindicare
9 years ago

@QuantumSparkle: You don’t know anything about the real quantum mechanics, you still cling to the old world view of Newton’s rape manual.

So, QuantumSparkle – I can assure you, you really try my patience – explain to me why a macroscopic object isn’t a quantum mechanical system, mmh? If one hydrogen atom is a quantum mechanical system (or do you deny that too?), then so are 10 or 10^23 of them.

And how can it be that you… patriarchal (?) wannabe physicists, make claims like “we can’t talk of an electron having spin up or spin down before we measured it” or “a particle can never have a determinate angular momentum” and suddenly when it comes to rapists you say “that’s not a quantum mechanical system!”… I’m sorry, but your thinking is heavily influenced by a binary world view based on the knight/slavering-beast dichotomy: fine to apply the terms “mixed” or “smeared” to the spin of electrons but when it comes to actual people… no, that would go to far.

And why should the wave function just be a description of discrete states? What an elementary mistake, QuantumSparkle! How embarrassing! Take the wave function of a free particle and measure it’s position… is that discrete? By no means, its continuous therefore you need an integral to calculate probabilities, same is true for momentum or many other physical quantities.