One widespread belief of the manosphere crowd is that “Western women” – that is, white women in developed countries – are a bunch of stuck-up, demanding, divorce-initiating feminism-infected harridans. So the proper course of action for the almost-all-white dudes of the manosphere is to seek a woman with darker skin and a (supposedly) more pliable nature. Even better: beleaguered white dudes should move to one of the countries where these feminism-free gals live, because when you bring them to the United States they too have a tendency to become infected with evil feminism and to become as stuck-up and evil as their lighter-skinned sisters.
This belief isn’t universal amongst manospehreians by any stretch of the imagination. White nationalist manosphreians (like those who populate the blog In Mala Fide) get testy when their women are considered inferior to non-whites; others think that all women are equally evil. Still others think that moving to a whole other country is too much of a hassle. Rarely do you find a manospherian willing to state the obvious: that the “white women suck” mantra is as offensive to non-white women as it is to white women.
Over on The Spearhead, one commenter has taken the “white women suck” mantra to its logical extreme, arguing that these evil women need to be quite literally bred out of existence.
Let’s take a look at walking in hell’s argument:
If one thinks about it, the misandry and divorce problem are problems that occur in countries where the women are light-skinned–mostly Northern Hemisphere Western Contries, and where the governments are atheist or were atheist.
Problem countries are Sweden, Germany, Czech Republic, Poland, Russia, United States, France, Britain, Ireland, Canada, Austrailia, New Zealand, etc. In short–the West. Light skinned women are by nature more dominant and controlling. If you combine that with a culture that encourages bad behavior, you as a man are doomed.
So far, this is standard-issue western-women-suck-ism. But then Hell starts talking about genes.
So the misandry problem is problem of genetics and culture. We can see the genetic differences in the United States. Asian Women divorce their husbands at a much lower rate then the other racial groups. The exception in America is the American Black Women (But isn’t she exceptional, after all)? I mean native African Women have very little resemblance to American Black Women).
Ironically, it’s fairly typical for the white-women-suck crowd to hate black women even more; in this case the only non-typical thing about Hell’s screed is that he’s willing to cut African women some slack.
Now Hell sets forth his basic thesis:
My point is this: I maintain the best wife for a white man is someone darker skinned then he is. I maintain that the best culture for the white man and his wife is a man-friendly culture. For example, a white man and Mexican woman living in Mexico; a white man and Thai Woman living in Thailand; a white man and a Morracan Woman, living in Morraco; a white man and Turkish Woman, living in Turkey. This strategy neutralizes the light-skinned genes, and at the same time neutralizes the cultural influences.
Note: If you plan to move to Morocco to escape the tyranny of white women, you should probably learn to spell the name of the country correctly first.
Naturally, Hell can’t bring himself to suggest that white men should marry black women. And he thinks that even black men should give African-American women a pass:
For a black man, possibly the best plan is to emigrate to Africa in order to have a family. I had a friend who did this. Most African divorce laws keep the man firmly in charge with sole custody automatically going to the man.
While some Western-women-hating manospherians have something of a fetish for Eastern European women, Hell warns his fellow men to avoid these sneaky deceitful harridans as well:
Whatever you do, never bring an Eastern European, Russian, or Ukrainian Girl to the Unites States.
But it isn’t only the Eastern European women who are spoiled by the evil feminism of the west.
In fact don’t bring any woman to the United States. Remember: even the healthiest fish becomes sick when the lake is poisoned. Some fish will become sicker than others depending on their genetic makeup. For example, that nice girl you brought over from Asia might not divorce you when she comes to the USA, but she is likely to become a much different (difficult and unpredictable) person.
So who is the best man for the white woman living in the West? Quite simply, no man; or another woman. Very few men in the West will be able to satify Western White Women.
And this, naturally, leads to what what we might call Hell’s Final Solution to the problem:
These women need to be bred out of existence.
We as men can speed the extinction of Western White Women by encouraging them to pursue the single life or to pursue another woman as a spouse (lesbianism). We can do this actively and passively. Actively by outright encouragement, and passively by never giving a Western Woman access to our sperm, money, or time.
Despite its, er, problematic content, Hell’s comment managed to draw 21 upvotes from fellow Spearheaders, more than twice the number of downvotes it received.
I eagerly await A Voice for Men’s campaign to uncover and expose the identities of Hell and his upvoters – as well as against The Spearhead itself for providing a safe harbor for such thinking. I mean, AVfM literally offered a $1000 award for the personal information of a feminist who made similarly troubling remarks about men, and a separate $1000 reward for the identities of those involved in a theatrical production about a feminist who wrote a famous manifesto about the evils of men. Surely the A Voice for Men crowd will be equally offended by these remarks from their comrades on The Spearhead.
Here on Man Boobz we content ourselves with highlighting bad ideas, not harassing or threatening or exposing the personal information of those who promulgate them. The “war of ideas” isn’t an actual war. The bad ideas we highlight here are as silly as they are reprehensible; they will ultimately vanish from the world on their own — though hopefully our mockery of them will help to speed that process a little bit.
EDITED TO ADD: Thanks to scarlettpipistrelle for pointing me to this lovely comment.
No, and I will never read about evil creepy dolls. Because of the Evan and the other doll poster I have even more of a phobia around dolls.
Even my kid’s LaLaLoopsy doll freaks me out.
Creepy dolls are one of my horror cliche guilty pleasures. They don’t bother me in movies at all, but give me stories like Candle Cove or Robert the doll and I’m hooked.
Now that I think of it, I’ve also made a “creepy” doll in a sense: I bastardized a Raggedy Ann pattern once to create a version of The Dark Knight’s Joker. I also attempted to make a doll of the Rake once, but it didn’t turn out.
See that, DKM? Some feminists even like dolls! Too bad you’ve alienated the entire world.
“Womanpets?” Ugh. Fuck off, Meller.
He’s not a libertarian, he’s a fascist who can’t admit it.
lauralot: Are you talking about the fear mythos tv channel? Cause… erm… yeah, I know the author.
As annoying as a particular strain of libertarian can be, they’re usually not disconnected from reality enough to try to make people jealous of dolls, or cats. This anachronism is 100% fascist with a side order of schlocky horror movie.
Run along now, Meller. The dolls might mount an insurrection if you don’t pay attention!
Actually, I’ve never heard of Fear Mythos. Is it a good channel? Sounds like it might be up my alley.
Can we start calling Meller Hatebot Agalmatophilia? He’s getting awfully repetitive.
lauralot: Where did you get the Candle Cove = creepy dolls, then, if you don’t mind my asking?
I found the story on a creepypasta site, linking it to a fiction site that I think was called Ichor Falls. I thought that’s where it came from originally, but maybe it was based on Fear Mythos, or vice versa?
Meller, I’m gonna spell this out for in nice big letters, in hopes that it might actually sink this time: NO. ONE. CARES. NOT A SINGLE PERSON, HERE OR ANYWHERE, GIVES A FLYING FUCK THAT A PITIFUL, FRUSTRATED, DELUSIONAL LITTLE FASCIST THINKS THEY’RE INFERIOR TO DOLLS. YOU MAKE YOURSELF LOOK MORE PATHETIC EVERY TIME YOU POST HERE. JUST STOP.
Clear?
you guys forget that meller’s libertarianism includes the assumption that if most laws were removed, society would naturally organize itself into a series of theo-fascist compounds
Okay, MrB needs to tell me shit. Ichor Falls is the originator of Candle Cove, MrB only wrote in the universe. He helped create the Wooden Girl, though, and wrote the ‘To Light a Candle’ blog. Which is creepy as fuck.
Info for those new to the mythos: http://thefearmythos.wikia.com/wiki/Beginner%27s_Guide_to_the_Mythos
And MrB’s Candle Cove blog: http://tolightacandle.blogspot.com/2011/10/introduction.html
And now I have a new blog to check out. It sounds awesome.
@Dracula
I’m afraid you don’t have anywhere near enough exclamation points to be comprehensible to Meller. You’re also need a few unrelated cliches. Allow me to ftfy:
Meller, I’m gonna spell this out for in nice big letters, in hopes that it might actually sink this time: NO. ONE. CARES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! A BIRD IN HAND IS WORTH TWO IN THE BUSH!!!!!!!!!!!!!! NOT A SINGLE PERSON, HERE OR ANYWHERE, GIVES A FLYING FUCK THAT A PITIFUL, FRUSTRATED, DELUSIONAL LITTLE FASCIST THINKS THEY’RE INFERIOR TO DOLLS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THE EXCEPTION PROVES THE RULE!!!!!!! YOU MAKE YOURSELF LOOK MORE PATHETIC EVERY TIME YOU POST HERE. JUST STOP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! EVERY DARK CLOUD HAS A SILVER LINING!!!!!!!!!!
GREEN EGGS AND HAM!!!!!!!!!
Dracula
And wow, to light a candle is a lot more fucked up/intense than I remember…
Ah, I see that DKM has chosen to stick his loathesome little head up again!
My unfailing response: to quote the post that last got him banned and shows (as do so many of his posts) his misogyny.
You don’t get it, do you, DKM? The only “nonsense gibberish” is your maunderings about how if kittens (or presumably any other pets) or WOMEN don’t behave, they should be punished–and men who kill women are driven to it.
Your words. Live with them:
Not to mention meller’s laughing at the pain of cancer victims and telling me to think about having our crazypants cat put down because she likes to use her claws. What a thoroughly vile and hateful excuse for a human being…
Ignoring DKM and replying to ABNOY as his post was partly replying to me (I just say it ABNOY, I wasn’t ignoring you)
“Humans are not fucking pets!”
Hah, I take it you’re not into bdsm, then?
Myoo: “Even if someone is into BDSM and likes to roleplay at being a “pet” that still doesn’t make them an actual pet. Are you trying to be wrong at everything?”
You’ve confused BDSM with 24/7 Ds….hopefully…Except even 24/7 lifestyle slaves aren’t pets, or slaves for that matter, they can always break up with their Dom. Humans get privileges like the right to medical treatment if, and only if, they consent — you can neuter your pets (and if they’re outside pets, you probably should).
“A thought on ABNOY — if he’s Chinese”
Well, call me anything you wish, just NOT Chinese, PLEASE. It would be like calling a Zionist a Nazi and vice-versa…
This is why I said “if” before speculating on how your views might make sense under China’s one child policy, nevertheless, I’m sorry my guessing upset you. No matter how annoying you may be sometimes, it’s not my place to assign you a nationality.
You use the general “Asian” then because you’re from one of the South East Asian countries the USA tends to forget about then? I’m curious which now, my brother’s not-dating a Cambodian woman (she’s a lesbian, he’s her beard, and I suspect she his, it’s kind of funny)
“Not to mention meller’s laughing at the pain of cancer victims and telling me to think about having our crazypants cat put down because she likes to use her claws. What a thoroughly vile and hateful excuse for a human being…”
Um…wow…he’s clearly never watched anyone die of cancer, fuck.
Nor had a cat (I fucking hope…*shudder*) — I’ve met two cats that didn’t scratch, and one was a Maine Coon too stupid to know it could do that (and why bother when he’d just rub against you and pet himself)…I’ve met plenty more who only scratched when threatened though, so wtf is DKM doing to these cats to get them all claws?
Argenti Aertheri: yeah, he’s a waste of space. And Kamikaze is… she scratches. Unpredictably. I have several scars from not knowing when to pull away, and one from when she used my foot as a launching pad – that fucking hurt, jsyk. She’s insane and we accept this – he told me to put her down because she was being aggressive – because it’s her fault the stupid humans can’t figure out when to stop bothering her, right?
KathleenB — ouch! Though appropriately named it sounds like. “because it’s her fault the stupid humans can’t figure out when to stop bothering her, right?” in Mellerland anything wrong is a woman’s fault, so probably? IDK, he makes the least sense of any of the Big Name Trolls.
DKM — go play with your dolls or something.
Kamikaze actually got her name after she climbed up to my shoulder and dive bombed one of the older cats. She was a fearless little thing, even at six weeks.
Awww, cute kittens are cute!