One widespread belief of the manosphere crowd is that “Western women” – that is, white women in developed countries – are a bunch of stuck-up, demanding, divorce-initiating feminism-infected harridans. So the proper course of action for the almost-all-white dudes of the manosphere is to seek a woman with darker skin and a (supposedly) more pliable nature. Even better: beleaguered white dudes should move to one of the countries where these feminism-free gals live, because when you bring them to the United States they too have a tendency to become infected with evil feminism and to become as stuck-up and evil as their lighter-skinned sisters.
This belief isn’t universal amongst manospehreians by any stretch of the imagination. White nationalist manosphreians (like those who populate the blog In Mala Fide) get testy when their women are considered inferior to non-whites; others think that all women are equally evil. Still others think that moving to a whole other country is too much of a hassle. Rarely do you find a manospherian willing to state the obvious: that the “white women suck” mantra is as offensive to non-white women as it is to white women.
Over on The Spearhead, one commenter has taken the “white women suck” mantra to its logical extreme, arguing that these evil women need to be quite literally bred out of existence.
Let’s take a look at walking in hell’s argument:
If one thinks about it, the misandry and divorce problem are problems that occur in countries where the women are light-skinned–mostly Northern Hemisphere Western Contries, and where the governments are atheist or were atheist.
Problem countries are Sweden, Germany, Czech Republic, Poland, Russia, United States, France, Britain, Ireland, Canada, Austrailia, New Zealand, etc. In short–the West. Light skinned women are by nature more dominant and controlling. If you combine that with a culture that encourages bad behavior, you as a man are doomed.
So far, this is standard-issue western-women-suck-ism. But then Hell starts talking about genes.
So the misandry problem is problem of genetics and culture. We can see the genetic differences in the United States. Asian Women divorce their husbands at a much lower rate then the other racial groups. The exception in America is the American Black Women (But isn’t she exceptional, after all)? I mean native African Women have very little resemblance to American Black Women).
Ironically, it’s fairly typical for the white-women-suck crowd to hate black women even more; in this case the only non-typical thing about Hell’s screed is that he’s willing to cut African women some slack.
Now Hell sets forth his basic thesis:
My point is this: I maintain the best wife for a white man is someone darker skinned then he is. I maintain that the best culture for the white man and his wife is a man-friendly culture. For example, a white man and Mexican woman living in Mexico; a white man and Thai Woman living in Thailand; a white man and a Morracan Woman, living in Morraco; a white man and Turkish Woman, living in Turkey. This strategy neutralizes the light-skinned genes, and at the same time neutralizes the cultural influences.
Note: If you plan to move to Morocco to escape the tyranny of white women, you should probably learn to spell the name of the country correctly first.
Naturally, Hell can’t bring himself to suggest that white men should marry black women. And he thinks that even black men should give African-American women a pass:
For a black man, possibly the best plan is to emigrate to Africa in order to have a family. I had a friend who did this. Most African divorce laws keep the man firmly in charge with sole custody automatically going to the man.
While some Western-women-hating manospherians have something of a fetish for Eastern European women, Hell warns his fellow men to avoid these sneaky deceitful harridans as well:
Whatever you do, never bring an Eastern European, Russian, or Ukrainian Girl to the Unites States.
But it isn’t only the Eastern European women who are spoiled by the evil feminism of the west.
In fact don’t bring any woman to the United States. Remember: even the healthiest fish becomes sick when the lake is poisoned. Some fish will become sicker than others depending on their genetic makeup. For example, that nice girl you brought over from Asia might not divorce you when she comes to the USA, but she is likely to become a much different (difficult and unpredictable) person.
So who is the best man for the white woman living in the West? Quite simply, no man; or another woman. Very few men in the West will be able to satify Western White Women.
And this, naturally, leads to what what we might call Hell’s Final Solution to the problem:
These women need to be bred out of existence.
We as men can speed the extinction of Western White Women by encouraging them to pursue the single life or to pursue another woman as a spouse (lesbianism). We can do this actively and passively. Actively by outright encouragement, and passively by never giving a Western Woman access to our sperm, money, or time.
Despite its, er, problematic content, Hell’s comment managed to draw 21 upvotes from fellow Spearheaders, more than twice the number of downvotes it received.
I eagerly await A Voice for Men’s campaign to uncover and expose the identities of Hell and his upvoters – as well as against The Spearhead itself for providing a safe harbor for such thinking. I mean, AVfM literally offered a $1000 award for the personal information of a feminist who made similarly troubling remarks about men, and a separate $1000 reward for the identities of those involved in a theatrical production about a feminist who wrote a famous manifesto about the evils of men. Surely the A Voice for Men crowd will be equally offended by these remarks from their comrades on The Spearhead.
Here on Man Boobz we content ourselves with highlighting bad ideas, not harassing or threatening or exposing the personal information of those who promulgate them. The “war of ideas” isn’t an actual war. The bad ideas we highlight here are as silly as they are reprehensible; they will ultimately vanish from the world on their own — though hopefully our mockery of them will help to speed that process a little bit.
EDITED TO ADD: Thanks to scarlettpipistrelle for pointing me to this lovely comment.
Asian Women divorce their husbands at a much lower rate then the other racial groups.
Obviously this man has never heard of the Asian Divorce or Goose daddies.
wait are you saying the manosphere doesn’t care about people of color?
Breed out white women by…but genes don’t work that way…
Oh, wait…this guy probably thinks you can “swamp” recessive genes permanently by matching them with dominant genes. With maybe a side order of “all genetic traits are also sex-linked,” such that a white man and non-white woman will have white sons and non-white daughters.
further shocking revelations: people from different fucking continents don’t have similar behavior
Their discussion over there was funny. They can’t figure out if they think white women are evil because of genetics, or white women are evil because of their environment. It’s the misogynist’s version of the nature/nurture debate.
Walking In Hell, congratulations! You Fail Biology Forever!
Yeah.
To expand upon this: skin color isn’t paint. If a population with a mix of skin colors interbreeds randomly for many generations, you don’t get all tan people–you a bell curve, with a few very pale people and a few very dark people at the ends. You can’t “breed out” the light skin color genes unless no white people reproduce.
The whole thing is ridiculous on so many levels, but the “genes mix up like my Crayola watercolors, right?” one is one of the funnier ones.
All this tells me is that these dudes know as many people of mixed racial background as they do women
QFFT.
I wonder what “there is no evolution” NWO would have to say about this idea of “breeding out white women”. Something about superdogs?
“For a black man, possibly the best plan is to emigrate to Africa in order to have a family. I had a friend who did this. ”
riiiiiiiiiiight…
I like how their colour coding women now. They’re all a big bunch or racists really. Lol.
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they’re* Grammar fail =(
Please tell me MRAism is a genetic trait, and they’ll (not) breed themselves out of existence. What was that book, the sci fi one, with all the manly men living outside the village, let in only to reproduce with the women, and then they find out that none of them have been actually breeding, and it’s the kindler, gentler manginas in the village that are the actual fathers of the children? The women are breeding out violence. Spearhead night terror reading.
This is an observation about behavior, not necessarily “race”. Feminism is today a worldwide disease, although it infects White women to a somewhat greater degree (so far) than it does nonwhite ones.
Modern women STINK!! This is because they are inadaquately trained in the arts of being women, and brainwashed (over-educated?) in being opinionated, pushy, greedy, lazy, pseudo-masculine, and always trying to put their own sorry egos ahead of the man who loves them. North America, Western Europe and Australlia’s women seem to be the worst, regardless of whether the women(?) are white or not.
Lonely, frustrated, or bewildered men may do better looking at culture and geography, as well as race and nationality. Your chances in the USSA People’s Republic are almost nonexistent, and even if you find a treasured jewel from the third world, she will probably go feminist on you in a few years here, and you will be back where you started!
Oh, go have sex with your robot some more.
Oh David K. Meller, the answer is so obviously dolls. Such pretty, pretty dolls. And you can apply perfume to them! So silent and lovely.
What walking in hell clearly didn’t take into account is “Western women’s” ultimate tool against being bred out of existence. So… let the sperm-jacking begin.
(Reading his wisdom I had an irresistible desire to steal little hell’s “light-skinned genes”. Oh yes. I’ll have his Western, stuck-up white babies whether he wants it or not.)
Such wit, such originality! I must use all my energy to come up with an insult far greater than that.
Hnnnnnnggggggggg……
You’re a poopy booger head, Meller.
There, that should do it.
Do you suppose he understands what he said there with regard to white men breeding?
Creepy.
As opposed to those saintly men, who always put their dolls’ egos first. Right?
You mean they’re being trained to be men? The horror.
Except they’re not really trained to be like that.
And if a man actually loved a woman, he wouldn’t give a shit if she fit into the fairy tale gender mold.
Also, as usual, atheism is painted as less than ideal because holy shit we can’t possibly go against the bible and let our women be real people. WTF!?
noted white supremacist david k. meller is not on board with this plan. world remains not shocked.
yeah, dkm, because you dont put massaging your fragile ego above everything else in your mewlings about your fantasy partner. do we need to add hypocritical to dumb and bigoted on your list of personality flaws.
‘Cause that sure beats looking in the mirror, huh buddy? Just keep blaming everyone but yourself for what a complete and utter asshole you are.
dkm hates women, but it makes him uncomfortable to admit that, so he’s invented this fantasy version of woman that he wouldn’t hate, and then whenever anyone correctly points out that he hates women, he whines about how we don’t give him credit for not hating his pretend version of women.
and then he goes and pretends dolls are people* or something.
*to the extent that dkm is capable of perceiving women as people, which is… limited