This was posted to the Men’s Rights subreddit the other day, with the headline: “Saw this today and I suppose that’s where we’re headed.” It’s gotten 556 upvotes, last I checked. (Those are net upvotes: it got 848 upvotes, 292 downvotes.) This is the world that a lot of MRAs, and Redditors in general, think they live in.
A handful of Redditors, like this one, objected to the hysteria:
Notice the downvotes.
Amazingly, one of the few voices of reason to emerge in the whole discussion (besides that downvoted commenter and serveral others) turned out to be none other than Pierce Harlan of the False Rape Society (now called Community of the Wrongly Accused). While not averse to spreading misinformation about rape and false rape accusations himself, he argued in a comment (and in a similarly worded blog post) that this kind of raving hysteria wasn’t helpful, concluding:
The delicate balance that commands us to punish rapists while not punishing the innocent is extremely serious business. We need more sober, more adult, more serious voices to be part of the public discourse. The last thing we need is more Chicken Little hysteria, no matter which side it’s coming from.
I’m guessing the upvotes he got for his comment must have come from visitors from his blog, because up until he posted that comment the few dissenters were mostly being dismissed.
The Men’s Rights subreddit: Waxing hysterical about imaginary oppressions since March 2008.
Spermjacker?
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The lady at the hearing – I’m glad to see that the tribunal* heard her out politely, just like other people and didn’t ban her just because she is schizophrenic. It sounded to me like she had written her speech in bullet points to fit all of the bullshit into the allotted time.
* Don’t know the right word.
Magpie, I think she’s speaking before the city council. And that maybe-spermjacker photo is definitely creepy.
“we could play scrabble!” — anything but scrabble! (no really, I cannot spell without spell check, so anything but scrabble!)
My mate the competition scrabble player plays such obscure words, that I’m beginning to think every combination of letters is a word. Bluff your way out of bad spelling, say it’s in the official scrabble dictionary 😉
Aw, what the hell, it’s the weekend.
The Book of Learnin’
Indispensable Facts About the Universe from NWO
I Falsely Accused NWO of Writing All These Things and Got Off With a Slap on the Wrist Edition
Science
Evolution is impossible, because otherwise we’d be able to watch dogs evolve into super-dogs. Unless anyone can produce evidence of dogs with super-powers, evolution is a myth.
The theory of evolution claims that life came from rocks. It also states that evolution doesn’t occur anymore because rocks are no longer in make-life mode.
Female animals cannot feed themselves and rely on males to support them. Even in cases where this seems untrue, the males are still tougher. For example, female lions do all the hunting in the pride, but if they come across a really tough enemy, like a hyena, they run and get the male lion to fight for them.
Mathematics
Feminists claim that one in four women is raped in college. But since college lasts for four years, you have to multiply that by four. Therefore, feminists are really saying that 100% of women are raped in college, which is obviously untrue, not to mention proof that women are bad at math.
There are only three percentages in statistics: 0%, 99%, and 100%. In statistical analysis, all numbers should be rounded to one of these three. COROLLARY: If people notice this and start suggesting that you’re just making your statistics up, it is mathematically acceptable to add some other really high numbers at random.
There are two kinds of numbers, quantative and qualative.
Health and Medicine
Children are lined up and injected with a dangerous chemical called flouride to make them stupid.
Mammograms cause breast cancer. Doctors advise women to get mammograms at least once a week until they develop cancer from it.
Many hospitals are open only to women and children. They’re not maternity/pediatric hospitals, just regular hospitals that refuse to treat men for no reason.
Male suicide is caused by society trying to feminize men, which makes them so depressed they kill themselves. Before modern feminism, suicide was practically non-existent.
After an abortion, the fetus is chopped into pieces and thrown into the nearest river or lake to feed the fish.
If the FDA worked, we’d have cures for cancer, diabetes, and every disease and ailment. Since we don’t, it’s not doing anything useful and should be abolished.
Male erections are incredibly painful. All men hate and fear the sight of sexy women.
The Affordable Care Act covers gender reassignment surgery for five-year-olds.
Education
Reading is not taught in American public schools.
Public schools offer two kinds of math: traditional arithmetic and New Math. Children are allowed to choose which one to learn.
How-to courses on homosexuality are taught in public schools. This is how people become gay.
Men are not permitted to work as teachers in the U.S.
The University of Cincinnati and all University of California schools have gotten rid of their engineering and computer science departments and replaced them with women’s studies and gender studies.
Thanks to the power of Title IX (see Law), all but two colleges in the U.S. are assembling Sex Police Forces made up of female students and faculty. There are plans to extend this program to grade schools.
Colleges require male students to dress in women’s clothing and march around campus so the female students can harass them. If they don’t do this, they are punished.
There are twice as many teachers and half as many students in U.S. schools as there were 20 years ago. These teachers spend class time walking around in their underwear to arouse elementary-school boys.
There are special schools for toddlers where they are taught about sodomy.
History
Ancient Greece, Rome, Persia, and China under the Ming Dynasty were extremely progressive, feminist societies. That’s why they collapsed.
In ancient China, elite women castrated young boys, while giggling, to turn them into their playtoys. These women lived in harems but were actually in charge.
Before modern feminism, rape was a rare occurrence and almost unheard-of.
The Americas were discovered by Queen Isabella, who ordered every man in Europe to sail westward to get exotic jewels, perfumes and silks for her. It was a stroke of luck that Columbus found land before the male population of Europe perished in a watery grave.
The genocide of Native Americans was perpetrated solely by women.
All beatings and murders of African-American slaves were committed by women.
Lynchings in the American South consisted of women accusing men of rape because they were man-hating feminists. In cases where the man was lynched on an accusation from another man, the lynchings were justified.
Women sank the Lusitania as part of a feminist plot to get the U.S. involved in WWI so that men could die needlessly, because women just enjoy watching men die.
In 1919, women took control of all levels of government and law enforcement. Since then, every law in the U.S. has been written and enacted by women.
The Cambodian genocide: planned and executed entirely by women.
The CIA imported feminism from the Soviet Union by publishing Ms. magazine and Miss Mag and channeling funds to a woman named Gloria Steinen.
Geography
The rivers of most major cities are lined with foul-smelling, dangerous factories. These factories are staffed entirely by overworked, underpaid male laborers, but they also have well-appointed human resources departments staffed by women in fancy clothes, fine jewelry and perfume. Since all the men work as laborers and all the women work as posh secretaries, researchers are still unsure who owns or runs these factories.
Linguistics
The word “suffrage” is derived from the verb “to suffer,” because voting is hard.
Spanish and Russian use the same alphabet. The Russians just have a funny kind of handwriting called cryillic script.
The word “dudebro” is hate speech.
Arts and Entertainment
The Iliad is the story of how Queen Helen of Troy ordered two armies to fight over her. It is based on a true story.
The classical Greek play The Bacchae is a celebration of the roving lesbian gang that murdered the musician Orpheus. It is based on a true story.
The musical Chicago is a polemic about how men should be shot to death. It was written by a female college student in 2010.
All horror movies are about a pretty girl being stalked and assaulted by an evil man. In the end, she kills him and walks away alive.
Prime-time TV shows have the same plot as horror movies, except that the pretty girl is assisted by an all-female investigative team, with a single man in charge. At the end of every episode, the victim sits in a one-way mirrored room, watching the chained-up man with a smug look on her face. Then one of the women from the investigative team squeezes her arm.
Shows on the Disney Channel consist of underage girls in sexy outfits hitting boys while the boys cower before them.
Journalism
Female journalists only write articles about how men are bad.
Suicides are never reported in the media unless it’s a gay man, in which case it’s treated as a national tragedy.
Fashion
Most girls and women over the age of twelve wear see-through tops and micro-miniskirts on all occasions. Although their skirts are so short their genitals hang out, they do not wear underwear.
The only exceptions to this rule are shopping malls, where girls and women typically wear bikinis.
Law
All U.S. law, from the Constitution down, has been supplanted by Title IX, a law requiring that all educational, government, and private institutions be 100% female. Title IX has its own police force, which is exactly like the Nazi SS. This takeover of the government was orchestrated by Russlynn Ali, Assistant Secretary for Civil Rights in the Department of Education, who now rules the country.
It’s legal in the U.S. for women to murder men. This is common knowledge.
If the names on a contract are in all caps, those people are legally corporations. If they’re in mixed case, the contract is invalid.
The United States is a communist dictatorship ruled by an emperor. If it were a free country, people wouldn’t have to pay taxes or get licenses to drive.
Requiring people to take a vision test to get a driver’s license is an atrocity on the level of the Holocaust, Pol Pot’s genocide, and the famous Communist massacre of Christians.
Each law has its own police force and legal system. For example, if you urinate in public, the Urination Police will arrest you.
The Southern Poverty Law Center is classified as a hate group.
So are women. Yes, all women.
Crime
False reporting of rape is the most serious and common crime in the U.S. The most common reasons for a woman to make up a rape accusation are cheating, revenge, excuse for missed homework, lateness, work absence, and attention-getting.
The average man is falsely accused of rape and thrown into prison without trial on a daily basis. Available statistics say otherwise because the true numbers are kept under wraps by the CIA.
Gay people are fifteen times more likely than straight people to be violent criminals. All the worst serial killers in history were gay.
California has replaced its women’s prisons with spas to reward women for committing crimes.
If there is yelling in a house, the police are legally required to arrest any men inside.
Economics
All financial crises are caused by the Federal Reserve, which is run by the Rothchild family.
All the real-estate speculators who caused the housing bubble were women.
There are no poor women. Whenever a woman needs anything, she sits in the middle of the street and cries, and passerby throw food and money at her for free.
Women control 80% of the world’s wealth, thanks to all the crying.
Business
Hiring female employees doubles the cost of the goods a company produces.
The only businesses owned or run by women are nonprofit organizations dedicated to hurting men.
Women go to plumbing school for three years to get jobs as construction flaggers, jobs which entail wearing hotpants and working on their tans. Also, plumbing schools for women are way more fun than plumbing schools for men.
Most men work in grueling manual labor, and it’s very rare for a man in the U.S. to be employed above a middle-management position. All high-paying jobs are held by women.
Charitable Giving
For every dollar women donate to charities to help men, men donate ten billion dollars to help women.
Women give a trillion dollars a year to charities, but these “charities” actually fronts for the huge corporations these women own. Economists are still trying to determine how women can simultaneously run all big corporations and only run small man-hating nonprofits.
Women’s groups typically receive hundreds of billions of dollars a year in funding. One of the groups that receives the most money is the National Association of Women Lawyers.
Nonprofit organizations operate by photocopying fliers, posting them on walls around town, then sitting back and waiting for the money to roll in. Even though the average nonprofit doesn’t do anything else, it’s much too hard for a man to start one, because men are oppressed.
Men are not allowed into homeless shelters unless they swear allegiance to feminism.
Throughout history, billions of men have died for the sake of women, whereas no woman has ever died for the sake of a man. The best way to balance this injustice is for women to randomly punch each other in the nose.
Government
All nations are controlled by the U.N. and the Jews.
Except for Rupert Murdoch, all financial, government and media leaders worldwide are either black or Arab. There are no white men in top positions of power.
Vice-President Joe Biden, like nearly all U.S. leaders, is of Middle Eastern descent.
Without government, homosexuality would not exist.
Foreign Relations
In war, women act as “cheerleaders” for both sides at once, goading otherwise peaceful men to fight. These women have no political goals or opinions; they just like watching men die.
Wars are typically started by women nagging their husbands to invade other countries to get pretty dresses.
Female protesters, no matter what the subject of the protest, are just there to goad men into killing each other. They are never injured or killed themselves.
Russia is the “deathplace capital of the world” for men because feminism was invented there (see Feminism). It is the most feminist country on earth.
All taxes in Scandinavian countries go toward women’s causes. Scandinavian grade schools have a holiday where girls are given cookies and ice cream, while boys are given stale matzo. Men in Scandinavian countries are imprisoned for farting.
Pet Ownership
Only women own cats. The main reason women own cats is so they can spend money on kitty litter that would otherwise go to men’s shelters.
Romance
Women hit men to test them as romantic partners. If a man hits back, it’s proof that he’s a worthy mate with strong genes, and the woman will immediately have sex with him.
Men enjoy being raped. Any man who says otherwise is lying.
When gay men have sex, they usually do it in front of a straight woman to provide her with free entertainment. Straight women are working to turn more men gay so they can enjoy plenty of gay sex shows.
Marriage and Family
Somewhere in the U.S. is a place called The Ghetto, where between 70% and 99% of households consist of unemployed single mothers living entirely off welfare. Everyone in The Ghetto is black. Sociologists are still struggling to determine why women in The Ghetto don’t support themselves as other women do, by sitting in the street and crying until people throw stuff at them (see Economics).
99% of feminist marriages end in divorce.
The vast majority of violent rapists come from female-led households, because the feminist indoctrination boys receive in such households makes them so angry they have to go out and rape people to let off steam.
When you get married, the government owns you through your marriage contract.
Fatherhood is illegal in Britain and there are plans to outlaw it in the U.S.
Youth Culture
Teenage girls participate in hazing rituals wherein they go to the mall in sexy outfits, usually bikinis (see Fashion). If a man looks at them for more than six seconds, they pounce on him en masse and strip him naked.
At the age of five, children are tossed out of the house by their parents. At that point they are able to support themselves and require no further care.
At the age of five, most children are still in diapers.
Religion
Judaism is the most aggressively evangelical religion on earth. Less than 5% of Jews are ethnically Jewish, while the rest are recruited from the tireless Jewish recruitment efforts.
In the story of Jesus saving the adulteress from stoning, the moral is that sinners deserve to be stoned.
Pedophilia
All child molesters are either women or gay men. Girls are never molested.
Prepubescent girls desperately want to have sex with middle-aged men. They advertise this desire by wearing swimsuits to the beach.
Feminism
Feminism is a highly organized international movement created in the Soviet Union and currently funded by the United Nations.
Phyllis Schlafly has worked tirelessly throughout her life to promote feminist causes.
Predictions of the Future
Someday a straight white man will beat up a lesbian for molesting a five-year-old. Everyone in the world will sympathize with the lesbian and immediately legalize child molestation.
In 100 years, white people will have gone extinct because white women didn’t reproduce enough. Archeologists discovering the remains of Western culture will laugh at us for letting women have rights.
Grade schools will soon require children to pledge allegiance to the idea that women are morally superior to men. This future event has punctured the space-time continuum and is causing girls and women to feel superior right now.
lol on first skimming of that version — “Male erections are incredibly painful. All men hate and fear the sight of sexy women.” — please tell me that one’s made up and he never said anything of the sort….otherwise someone should really buy poor NWO some better fitting pants…
What misinformation did Harlan spread in the “One-in-Four’ Lie Demolished, Once and for All” post?
@Magpie, unfortunately my lying skills only extend to covering my own ass, not board games. It’s okay, my sponge-brain is good at scattergories.
“Grade schools will soon require children to pledge allegiance to the idea that women are morally superior to men. This future event has punctured the space-time continuum and is causing girls and women to feel superior right now.”
Dimensional retro-closure in reverse! NWO, watch less sci-fi and more reality, like outside your window for example.
An odd thing about NWO is that he has a skilled job that requiresm logic to diagnose problems, and mistakes would be obvious for all to see, yet as far as we know, he is good at his job. He even sounds sensible when he is talking about things he does at work,
NWO is living proof that sexism (and other kinds of prejudice) makes people stupid. He clearly has a reasonable level of intelligence, but as soon as he starts to think about things that he’s prejudiced about his logical faculties shut down.
I’m hijacking the thread!
This afternoon, my brother (who is ONLY not an MRA because he hasn’t figured it out yet, but if he ever finds it he will be ALL ON BOARD) tried to tell me that Critical Theory — the examination of society and culture — is part of a feminist conspiracy to pave the way for COMMUNISM! in America.
Not thirty seconds later, and without a trace of irony, he told me he liked taking hallucinogens because he could think without the part of his brain that processes social conditioning.
Not being under the influence of society and culture is good, but critiquing society and culture is a feminist conspiracy.
NO IRONY. NONE WHATSOEVER.
GengerSnaps, would it be accurate to say that your brother just likes the sound of his own voice? 🙂
Yes.
GingerSnaps: have you tried making him notice it?
Magpie: I think it just show that machine-logic and people-logic are very different, and that staying logical can be very hard when emotions (like anger) are at play.
Magpie, the idea of NWO sounding sensible is a strange one, but I guess work doesn’t really have to be about other people. I don’t think even he could claim that machines are part of a conspiracy.
Cassandra, well yes, you may want to add organized religion to that list with sexism/prejudice, or at least the “believe what I tell you to and don’t ask questions” sects. NWO just seems to have so many prejudices that everything links back to at least one of them…which in his case he probably just sees that as proving his conspiracy right. >.<
Well, except when he’s whinging on about how dangerous his work is while simultaneously claiming that safety regulations are an affront to his pride and masculinity.
And his made up stories about all the shit he invented and was denied credit for.
Sorry GingerSnaps, I was typing when you hijacked, carry on with the hijacking! (It’s certainly more interesting than NWO)
Maybe direct your brother to, idk, the actual writings of Karl Marx or something? If fixing his definition of feminism won’t work, fix his definition of communism?
He mansplained music to me once, not understanding that I know music theory because I, you know, play instruments and stuff. I tried to tell him that he was using a long winded explanation of polyphony and polymeter to make it sound like his favorite band was SUPER! AWESOME! TALENTED! But he didn’t get it.
I mean obviously pulling polyphony and polymeter off is not easy to do, so I don’t doubt that they’re good musicians, but he was just so hipster about it, like “I like this band because complicated technical thing!” only I knew what it was and it wasn’t as superawesometalented as he was saying.
But whenever I try to point such things out, I am a Condescending Bitch ™. [My first thought is usually either inconCEIVable! or That word, I do not think it means what you think it means, but whatever.]
TL;DR – MRM is perfect for him, and I hope he never finds it.
So where’s NWO’s MSM links again? I think I missed them.
@Dracula, oh that’s special. The FWB’s job isn’t exactly safe, though that’s mostly because the safety regs are seen as optional — which is the part he complains about, that those aren’t optional! Would NWO prefer his job be more dangerous?
And does he ever say anything that isn’t laced with conspiracy theories then?
Dracula, I was thinking of the time he described cable splicing. I suspect there might be some bit of reality behind ‘they stole my ideas’, too.
Um….. Nope. Even when he was high, it was all about cartoon people who were irate that he discovered their existence. Obvs, the best choice for him was to… take more hallucinogens. Because something.
This *is* a kid who puts “ethics” in scare quotes. In real life. With his fingers. I usually take what he says with a bucket or so of salt.
(Also, whines about alimony/child support without being married/having kids. WTF?)
/hijack
I dunno, Argenti. North Americans of the variety who decry communism are not very receptive to anyone attempting to change their definition of communism. Only a communist would do that. And communists are bad, m’kay?
Actually, if it’s a gov’n job, he could be under contract that his ideas are their’s (I got asked a lot straight out of college why I wouldn’t do gov’n research, this is why)
GingerSnaps, his links are in his head somewhere, he didn’t actually provide any, just dropped this comment:
And then he seems to have run off instead of providing the links. (Also, superawesometalented musicians? Emilie Autumn)
Why is communism bad? I mean I understand that places that have called themselves communist in eras past were more fascist than anything, and I understand that actual communism is probably not a good way to run an entire country, but why is anything having to do with communism so *bad* by default?
Unimaginative, oh right, this is the point I’m supposed to walk away mumbling that socialism is a good thing damn you. Not like I haven’t done that before >.< (as in, every time the health care debate comes up)
Oh yeah, I’ve no no doubt he knows how to splice cable.
But he also claims that wearing safety gloves while doing so is an utterly ridiculous expectation. And then goes on to describe in detail the lacerations on his hands.
So really, I was just expanding on Cassandra’s point, not contradicting yours. Sorry if it came off that way.