For a bunch of guys who love to pretend they don’t care about women, Men Going Their Own Way certainly do love to talk about them. So much so that I’m thinking they may need to update their little acronym to MGTOAW: Men Going Tediously On About Women.
Over on MGTOWforums.com, for example, the regulars are having their tenth billion discussion about how women totally get all ugly as they get older, while men get handsomer and more awesome. Gannicus, himself 40 years YOUNG, starts things off with this:
To me, one of the most obvious things a man should notice is that in the US, most American women have fallen apart or completely without value by 40.
Is it just me, or does that “in the US, most American women” bit remind you of Miss South Carolina and her “US Americans?”
I know some will say it happens earlier, but lets just stick with a round number. And lets forget about virtue, loyalty, honesty, etc for a moment, which we know is not exactly known to be a top export of American women. Just being completely shallow and superficial, based on appearance alone, I find it disgusting and repulsive to view virtually any woman at 40. I just turned 40 and I am proud of my appearance. I expect to continue taking care of my body,etc.
However, I feel that based on looks. weight, hair, facial quality, etc. that 1% or less of Amercian women at 40 are, shall we say,bangable or even tolerable if you had to stare at for 10 minutes. And lets not even mention that wretched term from a bygone era called feminity. That is almost unheard of in the US in any age group. …
Which then leads me to wonder what the hell do young guys think their female partners will look like at 40? I mean, do they think THEIR girl will be different?
I’m just throwing this out as a hypothesis here, but I’m guessing that “most young guys” aren’t angry, bitter, woman-hating assholes who think all women over 40 are hideous hagbeasts.
Back on MGTOWforums.com, Downandout repectfully disagrees with Gannicus thesis. He believes that many women get ugly long before they hit 40.
It’s not so much that American women hit 40, it’s that 40 hits American women. Hard.
Jokes aside, I don’t think you can peg it to one number. A lot of skanks are starting to look awful in their 20s. Take Lindsay Lohan for example. Girls are starting to drink, do drugs, eat shit, and party hard at a very early age. Their small bodies can’t take that kind of abuse, and it’s showing. On top of that, they wear pounds of makeup to cover up the abuse, which only further contributes to the problem.
Deathslayer quotes the expert testimony of a colleague who calls himself RealDealBrotha:
Look at how quickly these chick fall COMPLETELY off, yet they STILL think they can do everything a man does for as long as a man does it…. NOT! …
Look at all the females who whore away their prime years, or go into career mode, or just choose men for silly reasons and NOT try to better themselves enough to be WORTHY of a good man (who is NOT a simp) wifing them up. They have so little regard for men that they think that they can have good men at their beck and call after they’re aged out fat chicks dragging around kids who they had with other men. It REALLY does NOT work that way, yet they don’t ever figure out the obvious until it’s too late.
We see and hear this story all the time. It comes up so often, that it’s really funny to me now. It warms my heart to know how badly these arrogant, misandric, selfish, worthless women are doomed to crash, burn and live the remainder of their wretched lives as bitter old maids whose only value will be as jumpoffs for bottom-feeder men who lack the guts and the nuts to raise the bar.
It’s always nice to see MGTOWers complain about misandry in comments overflowing with angry misogyny.
Toadman, for his part, seems happy to ignore women altogether, celebrating his independence by sitting at home eating canned food that’s way past its expiration date.
I have an unopened can of pork-and-beans in the cupboard that will taste the same as when canned. It’s lasted longer than the 10-15 years of female fertile desireability. Talk about “shelf-life”.
As they say, living well is the best revenge.
The irony is amazing with these guys. We’re shallow and picky, but they’re the ones demonizing any woman that doesn’t look like a barely-legal porn star.
Huh… Apparently, this list exists. Enjoy, MGTOAWers, enjoy. ^_^
All the shit that spews out of your mouth, and you expect me to believe that calling you a “creep” is hateful and unfair.
I thought these guys were GTOW? So why do they care if a woman is 40 or what she looks like? They’re missing the point of their own “movement.”
Like they’d even know a woman is 40 just by looking at her. No one believes me when I tell them I’m 40, and it has fuckall to do with clean living, it’s mostly genetics.
Well, I’m almost 35, so I’ve got about five years until my ass hits the floor. I better go live it up!! Jello shots for everyone!
This actually just makes me sad. In a society where 24 year olds are doing anti-wrinkle cream ads, women are justifiably paranoid that their attractiveness is going to wane faster than it actually does, faster than men’s – even if it’s not true. On top of that, we get clear messages that our worth is in our looks, and little else. This is really hard to counter – even the most self-confident and successful woman surrounded by love and support feels this sting of judgment, this feeling of invisibility as we age. My husband thinks I’m nuts the way I obsess over my facial flaws, incoming wrinkles, sun spots. He’s like “One day you’ll actually BE old and you’ll feel pretty dumb for mourning your youth at age 35.” Can he blame me?
“However, I feel that based on looks. weight, hair, facial quality, etc. that 1% or less of Amercian women at 40 are, shall we say,bangable”
Aren’t these the same people who complain about women’s “superficiality” and “high standards?” Pot, meet kettle.
And lets not even mention that wretched term from a bygone era called feminity. That is almost unheard of in the US in any age group.
I’m gonna go out on a limb and suggest Americans haven’t heard of this because “feminity” isn’t an actual word.
WIMMINZ! Keep yourselves young and waifish well into your 90s or MINZ will no longer let you use their Internetz access!
I thought masculinity was superior to femininiminty in MRA-land anyway. If we’re feminine, we’re subject to “being feminine means being frivolous and stupid.”
…But I guess that’s what we’re supposed to be.
I think that they just hate any woman who isn’t literally an encephalopathic fetus. Brains? Bodies? Pulses? Women have that stuff, and it’s disgusting! ;p
I generally find attractive people who are around my own age, and that hasn’t changed since high school. Why would it change at 40? Of course “growing old together” implies growing old; that’s kind the whole idea. 70-year-old men who hate to look at 70-year-old women just hate their own wrinkles most of all.
I showed this to my aunt Hagbeast, but she’s so old and such an old-fashioned Amazon that she doesn’t even understand what “marriage” is, so it was hard to impress on her how strange and sad the post is.
“Men have ‘desires?’ Who gives a fuck?” I believe she said, but as I mentioned: She’s a very old-fashioned Amazon.
Does anyone else read Manjaw the Mighty’s comments in a voice similar to James Earl Jones’s in majesty and resonance?
C’mon, it can’t just be me!
I’m hearing Colleen Dewhurst, myself, LBT.
I’m very flattered. :3 I have to say, I’ve become a little bit self-conscious about the timbre of my voice since venturing forth from Man-hating Amazon Dykeland. Some people called me “Coach Beiste,” and it took me a while to figure out the reference.
I know it has been said before, but perhaps any MRM visitors could learn from this simple video.
Oh, the poor, poor men (well, MGTOWs at least. I wont generalise all men, ‘cos I’m a dude.) The poor darlings, bless there little hearts. Imagine women *SHOCK AND AWE!* ageing. Oh, the travesty. Oh the shame. Imagine, just imagine the poor little darlings walking in a shop, shopping for their 15-year-old pork and beans, until suddenly they see a woman in her 40s. Of course, our MGTOW is an adonis – George Clooney and Brad Pitt would bow down to his awesome beauty – rightfully stops and looks on in disgust. This woman must look like a cross between a dog and a pig. Oh, how horrid!
Oh, and if you couldn’t tell I was being sarcastic. I mean, the nerve of these judgemental pricks. How dare they say anything about appearance. As if being a dude who “going their own way” (how laughable) gives them some right to make comments up on high.
Also, while I can’t tell if they themselves are good looking, there’s something in Roald Dahl’s “The Twits” which has always struck a cord with me:
“If a person has ugly thoughts, it begins to show on the face. And when that person has ugly thoughts every day, every week, every year, the face gets uglier and uglier until you can hardly bear to look at it.
A person who has good thoughts cannot ever be ugly. You can have a wonky nose and a crooked mouth and a double chin and stick-out teeth, but if you have good thoughts it will shine out of your face like sunbeams and you will always look lovely.”
I believe this completely. This is why I have never put much stock in”the importance” of appearance whenever I’ve dated someone. ‘Cos it’s bullshit, for the most part. A beautiful mind stands head and shoulder above being aesthetically pleasing. That’s why I consider Brad Dourif and Bob Hoskins to be two of my absolutely-legit Hollywood man-crushes.
Brother, let’s gather around and repeat a thousand times:
“Females are not pretty, females are ugly, females are not sexy and they’re fat and evil.”
Then we’ll make penitence and flog ourselves once for each boner we had this week.
Oh, I forgot to mention. I’m suggesting the MGTOWs have “ugly minds”, as described by Roald Dahl in the situation. If that wasn’t clear already.
I love how they’ve started to have escape clauses for their generalizations. Men who think they like fat women are victims of witchcraft! Men who think they like wizened old crones of 40 are just thetas who can’t do any better!
So if I note that I’m almost 34 and my girlfriend is older, they can say it’s because I’m not rich or powerful, which is the male equivalent of being ugly, so I can’t do any better.
The last part is probably true, but not in the way they mean.
This woman must look like a cross between a dog and a pig.
Aww, that sounds so cute!
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/47/Gadget_the_pug_expressive_eyes.jpg
Or she could look like this Patricia Piccinini sculpture.
http://www.dailyartfixx.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/the-young-family-2003-patricia-piccinini.jpg