As you may be aware, Ferdinand Bardamu of In Mala Fide has taken a brave and bold stance against “fat chicks.” That in itself is not very surprising, or interesting, really. But in a recent post he offers a take on the fat acceptance movement that betrays an strange bit of … paranoia, maybe?
After a few uninspired swipes at “fat-assed she-beasts and big-titted blubberboys” and the “femilosers” on Tumblr who recently batted around an anti-“fat chick” post from his blog, he makes this strange pronouncement:
These histrionic little girls are full of it. They don’t want fat acceptance — they want to FORCE men to be attracted to their endless rolls of fat and their cheesy crotch creases. Fortunately, their emotional delicateness will ensure that they will fail. We are the Patriarchs, and we’re coming to take back what’s ours. Beware.
Ferdy, don’t worry. The fat chicks of the world aren’t going to FORCE you to lust after them, and wouldn’t even if they could. I haven’t conducted a poll or anything, but I’m fairly certain that the fat women of the world are just fine with you not being attracted to them. Heck, I’m pretty sure most skinny women would prefer that you not be attracted to them either. They really don’t want your lucky charms.
Also, the weird little bit at the end there, the thing about “coming to take back what’s ours?” In The Incredibles, they called that “monologuing.” I don’t know quite what motivates so many manopshereians to want to talk like comic book supervillains. But it is sort of adorable.
I say it’s a half Poe, the sort who pretty much believes what he says but realizes in his heart of hearts that he’s a terrible person with terrible beliefs, and so couches them in deliberately outrageous terms so that he can distance himself from them.
Pecunium — “Kind of terrifying, actually.” — Yeah it is, I think I actually shuddered at “the Essential NWO”
Yoyo, agreed that it’s a BS victim blaming argument. I should’ve just said “I think I see wtf their BS is about”. I do think it’s similar to the fat shaming this thread is actually about in that sense — fat people choose to be fat, so just choose to be not-fat?
LOGIC, still waiting for that explanation how women are supposed to get anything done if they’re always available for sex merely by being out in public. Would you prefer burqas and their near invisibility?
NWOslave — ALL the projection.
I vote LOGIC = poe.
@ Argenti
Just looking at that corset makes my back hurt.
And yes, poe, but choosing to poe for trolling purposes, so probably one of our revolving door trolls.
Obviously there’s something to this Poe’s law thing b/c I thought it was a really obvious pisstake XD
I think you may have posted in the wrong forum. http://weight-loss.fitness.com/
There you go.
Also, I’m vegetarian and a bit of an eco-warrior, so not too keen on the whole high-protein diet thing, though I accept that some people have to limit carbs for health reasons (e.g. if they cannot digest fibre properly)
I hope one day to be able to understand the MRA sense of humour. It’s mostly jokes that centre on the premise that all women (or should that be wimminz? feminists? fembots? feminazis?) are incredibly vain, love SATC and shoes, hate men, lack self-control(??) and label everything that is “good” for men as misogynistic, isn’t it?
I’m splitting my sides with mirth here.
I’ve also noticed that most manospherians talk like comic book super villains in *every single post that they make*. It’s not an MRA blog post unless you’re left imagining the writer foaming about the mouth or laughing manically.
Other ones try to write like political activists, but come across as incredibly deluded.
E.g. here is the last few lines of a post by that pro-rape guy Berge: “My dream is for the Men’s Rights Movement to grow strong enough to at least hurt the state at a comparable level to what American blacks can, eventually making the authorities too scared to fight their war on male sexuality. If we trudge on, we can achieve this. Let us set aside racial and religious differences and each of us from the humblest blogger to the deadliest activist do what we can to fight feminism. Let us all get along and direct all our animosity squarely at the feminist state and its enforcers.”
Rousing stuff.
I also love the number of pop-cultural references in MRA and PUA blog posts (e.g. “the red pill”, “Team Man”), the jargon (NAWALT, ‘gina tingles, fembots) and the incredibly flowerly rhetoric. All of this is written for such a small audience. I wonder that these people do not consider that what they write seem like nonsense to most outsiders? It’s not like some ordinary man is going to read all that stuff and suddenly transform into Meller is it?
This is what I do too, though I do use real cheese. My trick is to replace about a third of it with swiss. Using just cheddar tends to be a little bland, and I can understand why you’d prefer the fake cheese to it.
On that subject, I had an embarrassing ‘I clearly don’t cook from scratch enough’ moment last night. I was making refried beans, and when I was done I was dismayed to see these little whitish crescent things all through them. I thought bugs had gotten in the beans and nearly tossed them, but something not quite right about them made me take a look online instead. 10 minutes later the internet pointed out the obvious to me: they were, in fact, the little sprouts inside the rather old bag of beans and had just grown more than I was used to.
PsychoDan: 10 minutes later the internet pointed out the obvious to me: they were, in fact, the little sprouts inside the rather old bag of beans and had just grown more than I was used to.
I’m confused. Sprouts? To get sprouts the beans have to soak, and then rest for a couple of days.
NWO: Just another helpful hint from someone whose way smarter than any of you.
Says the man who thinks Spanish and Russian use the same alphabet.
Lol, and it’s “who is way smarter than any of you”, not “whose way smarter”. Are you even trying?
You know, I really dislike the idea that no one can be attracted to fat people, or that all men want the same ‘type’ of woman, because it’s just not true. I consider myself pretty conventionally attractive (at least for where I live right now), and I have terrible luck with men. I also really hate when people (men usually) say ‘Wow, I bet it’s so easy for you to find a boyfriend’. No, asshole, it really isn’t. Personality has a lot to do with it too, and if you have one like mine, its difficult to connect with people.
I think I made that comment all about me…
And can I just say that it astounds me again and again what a terrible human being NWOslave is. Every time you think he can’t get worse, he does.
LOGIC said:
“Invisibility or sex, ladies. Your choice.
You may be a troll. You may be a Poe, but you’re certainly an arsehole. Go. Bother someone else.
NWO, you are the comedy gift that keeps on giving.
Wait, really?
In a way, this is true, that society expects women to either look hot and sexy, or just be invisible. This is one of the many reasons we need feminism, so a woman can be judged as a person and not be judged on how she looks.
We really need to get something clear here. Fat women (and men) fall in love, marry have kids and happy fulfilled lives. Hell, I’m overweight myself and I’ve been happily married for thirty years. There is no doubt about this. My husband is bigger than I am and I don’t love him one wit less for it. Being overweight doesn’t stop you having a perfectly good romantic and sex life. All this fat-hatred is nothing more than the MRA trying to undermine women and men they don’t approve of. Again.
They really need to can it because it’s nothing more than bullshit.
Right, because there’s no other possible explanation that women who are conventionally attractive would ever exit their houses. I mean, it’s not like any of them have jobs, friends to visit, bowling leagues, or soup kitchens to volunteer at.
Yes because a fat woman’s ONLY reason for ever having the audacity to exit her home is to be aggressively fat AT men’s deflated boners. She couldn’t possibly also have a job, friends to visit, a bowling league, or soup kitchen to volunteer at.
I don’t expect you to come up with a realistic answer, but I’m curious, how exactly is it a “self-evident logical fact”? Has it occurred to you there may be men who don’t want sex with women? Or men who have tastes different than yours? What happens when there are men who prefer tall women and men who prefer short women? Are the tall women being misandrist at the men who prefer short women? Or is it the short women who are being misandrist at the men who prefer tall women? What if there are men who prefer freckles and men who prefer dark hair? Men who prefer prominent noses or men who prefer smaller feet? Men who prefer large breasts and men who don’t? Even if you leave aside men who are attracted to chubby or fat women (since it seems evident you don’t believe these men exist) there are a whole range of body types and body variations that some people prefer and others do not. How do we account for that?
LOGIC’s logic: women being treated as sexual objects = mens rights. Fat women daring to be human = misandry.
I think LOGIC is a Poe, just because he’s too out with it. Usually the MRAs have to turn in circles three times and froth at the mouth a bit before saying something that works out to “men have a right to sexy women.”
Meaning, it was me mucking about :p Wasn’t clear enough, sorry!
If I could make it so nobody would ever hit on me ever again except my husband, I would be happy. Invisibility or sex? INVISIBILITY EVERY TIME. I’m mostly ace, dude. I DO NOT CARE HOW ATTRACTIVE YOU THINK ME.
Luckily, now that we’re looking more obviously trans, we’ve cut out pretty much all of our unwanted advances. Because it’s always straight men who like doing it, and you know, hitting on someone who they aren’t sure the gender of might mean they’re GAY.
Funny what a nice ol’ mastectomy will do.
After my most horrendous separation and eventual divorce I started gaining weight. Some of it was stress, a lot was depression. But I realized about many years that I’d done it so that no one would be attracted to me again. I didn’t want to chance ever being hurt the way I had been by my ex. Talk about fucked up logic on my part. I figured being fat would mean no one would like me or try to be sexual with me. And I was only partly right. Apparently some people like my personality and don’t care that I’m fat. Imagine that.
My diet is fairly high in carbs (what can I say, I love cereal and pasta) and yet somehow I am skinny. Owly’s beliefs are stupid.
Personally I subscribe to the “eat a variety of things, mostly unprocessed, mostly plants” dietary philosophy.
Katz, actually, I said that we women were genetically programmed to be attracted to men of means. And I specifically said that most women aren’t gold diggers. That would imply money was the sole reason for attraction, it’s not. So how about not misrepresenting what I’ve said?
As for power in a relationship, my point is that no one should dominate the other.