As you may be aware, Ferdinand Bardamu of In Mala Fide has taken a brave and bold stance against “fat chicks.” That in itself is not very surprising, or interesting, really. But in a recent post he offers a take on the fat acceptance movement that betrays an strange bit of … paranoia, maybe?
After a few uninspired swipes at “fat-assed she-beasts and big-titted blubberboys” and the “femilosers” on Tumblr who recently batted around an anti-“fat chick” post from his blog, he makes this strange pronouncement:
These histrionic little girls are full of it. They don’t want fat acceptance — they want to FORCE men to be attracted to their endless rolls of fat and their cheesy crotch creases. Fortunately, their emotional delicateness will ensure that they will fail. We are the Patriarchs, and we’re coming to take back what’s ours. Beware.
Ferdy, don’t worry. The fat chicks of the world aren’t going to FORCE you to lust after them, and wouldn’t even if they could. I haven’t conducted a poll or anything, but I’m fairly certain that the fat women of the world are just fine with you not being attracted to them. Heck, I’m pretty sure most skinny women would prefer that you not be attracted to them either. They really don’t want your lucky charms.
Also, the weird little bit at the end there, the thing about “coming to take back what’s ours?” In The Incredibles, they called that “monologuing.” I don’t know quite what motivates so many manopshereians to want to talk like comic book supervillains. But it is sort of adorable.
RE: pillowinhell
Sure, if you’re okay with most of it coming out of a box. (I cheat, okay?) But I do indeed vouch for its delicious amazoness.
RE: low fat and low calorie, I actually try to avoid those. (I’m trying to get MORE nutrition into me, and despite my weird tics, I oddly have no fear of fat or calories. Go figure.) I also love love LOVE Greek yogurt, which I hear tastes nasty in it’s low/no fat varieties.
Also, since I love applesauce and have been meaning to buy some today, I would welcome recipes that incorporate it. I also am addicted to raw local honey (it cures my allergies!) so any recipes you have with that are handy.
landplanets
That’s a particularly awkward neologism.
Arks: Fat acceptance is a joke. If these landplanets want the opposite sex to like them, then they can get off their asses and improve themselves instead of expecting others to change.
So much lack of logic.
If they want to be liked for who/what they are they need to conform to someone else’s idea of what’s attractive?
It’s not what guys are told all the time. Guys are told to stop being dicks. If you aren’t a dick, people will like you more.
What you, and the hero of this post want, is to be told it’s ok to be dicks. He wants to have fat women (no mention of men) disappear, lest he be attracted to them.
And he’s blaming them for his problems.
The fat acceptance movement is overwhelmingly female with a tiny male component and I don’t think it’s hard to see why.
Yeah, because fat men don’t get half the shit, just for being, that fat women do.
RE: Ozy
Yeah, pretty much. I can feel my logic processors turning into NWO processors, and NOOOOOO COME BACK BRAIN I NEED YOU.
Food-related stuff just comes with the double whammy of, “Now not only do you have to buy/choose it… YOU HAVE TO PREPARE AND EAT IT TOO! MWAHAHAHA!”
And that’s how I end up trying to explain to my husband why I’ve been eating out of a bag of raw spinach all day.
RE: pillowinhell
Er, I have comp issues and can’t access your blog. Probably not until tomorrow night. <.< I can just write and e-mail or post the recipe elsewhere, though, if that's okay.
Ignoring the stupidity of…well, everything else in this sentence for a minute, you seem to be living in the same strange fantasy world Bardamu is, in which fat women routinely hold men at gunpoint while screaming, “FIND ME ATTRACTIVE RIGHT NOW OR ELSE!” The self-identified fat people I know, male and female, date/smooch/marry/boink…people who want to date/smooch/marry/boink them. Just like skinny people, they sometimes like someone who doesn’t like them back. And then they say things like, “Darn,” and feel kind of sad, again, just like skinny people do. Not once have I known any of them to “expect” other people to be attracted to them.
What they do, however, have a reasonable expectation of is that other people treat them with respect. It is really, truly possible to not fuck someone while still treating them politely and not, say, calling them a “landplanet.” It’s not even particularly hard! I am not-fucking and yet not-insulting several billion people RIGHT NOW!
Oh awesome LBT! I use a lot of honey too. Okay, I’ll start sorting through recipes and post on the wekend.
I eat a hypoglycemic diet. So lots of nutrition, plenty filling and I have sweets for when I crash and need to get the blood sugar back up.
Baking isn’t terribly hard, I’ll step by step it. And I’ll put in substitutes for box stuff. Big Momma has already mentioned. She’d like simple recipies for people who aren’t familiar with cooking from scratch.
Hey, my cousin’s name is Landplanet. 😀 She’s a co-chieftain of a neighboring tribe: Her Lugubriousness, Lady Landplanet the Large. “Large” is a bit of an understatement, but “vast” would have broken up the alliteration.
LBT: Mixing raisins in applesauce is really, really good, although that only barely qualifies as a “recipe.”
RE: Manjaw the Mighty
I know that I am but a puny male, but I greatly appreciate your mightiness! I haven’t had a chance to say that to you before. I am only sad that due to my gender, I can not join your mighty tribe. 🙁 Can I just be a fan instead?
RE: ozy
Ooh! I might try that. Lately I’ve been mixing Cheerios and raisins into Greek yogurt, and that makes a good breakfast!
RE: pillowinhell
I will have a less dangerous oven in a few months. One of the system kids is already planning to bake delicious things with another baker there. (We’ll have to give our quickeasy vegan chocolate cake recipe too! None of us are vegan but OMG SO DELICIOUS. I used it for my wedding.) As for the boxed mac and cheese stuff, it’s more that the kind we use has plain powdered cheese, so you can make all kinds of sauce with it. I suppose if you had that on hand, you don’t need the box at all!
Aw. You know what?
These idiots who stand around telling heavy people that WE WILL NOT STAND FOR YOUR FAT FATTINESS just need to get over themselves. No one who is fat is asking for your permission.
Aren’t attracted to people who are Evil Fat Fatties? Have fun. No one cares and I’m m-f-ing serious. You’re allowed.
But when I hear people going off on rants about how it’s their duty to abuse fat people – shame them, hate on them, make them hate themselves – because it’s FOR THEIR OWN GOOD – I mostly just see pitiful, scared, sulky, willfully stupid excuses for human beings because they’re looking for justification to hurt other people. News flash: Society already shames and erases and attacks fat people for being fat. You are not doing an honorable duty by contributing to the shame.
Here’s a rant I wrote a while back in response to an AskMen.com article called “Top 10 Subtle Ways to Tell Her That She’s Getting Fat,” which advised men on how to body-shame the women they love.
http://swankivy.com/writing/rants/misogynists.html
Also:
“We are the Patriarchs, and we’re coming to take back what’s ours. Beware.”
Shaking over here. Really.
Yes, I think that’s all right. I have to confess, it’s still very difficult to get over my ingrained hatred of all the wretched male hordes, but my travels outside of Man-hating Amazon Dykeland have been extremely enlightening so far.
Should her Lugubriousnesses be openhanded she could be Lady Landplanet the Lavish, even the Lavishly Large.
I have absolutely no doubt that if her weight became a serious health issue, or if she thought it was affecting our relationship, my wife would do something about it. But at present, neither is true, and she didn’t seem to have any trouble attracting people before she met me.
(And I wasn’t desperate: in fact, I could easily have carried on with her much slimmer predecessor.)
She is quite generous. It could catch on.
Did anyone watch that show Huge which was canceled a couple summers ago? I thought it was awesome.
Lots of fat teenagers and the point of the show wasn’t ever their weight (though of course it was referenced and included as part of who they were). I loved seeing so many fat people on TV who weren’t required to play the fat friend or the butt of every joke. And the writers were really inclusive in a lot of subtle ways–sexual minorities, disability, gender issues, and interracial families were featured without making them “what it was about” at all. Holy crap I wish it hadn’t been canceled.
Awesome new game: Mix MRA quotes wsith quotes by the Reapers from Mass Effect, and see how many your friends can identify one way or the other.
“We are the Patriarchs, and we’re coming to take back what’s ours. Beware.” – MRA
“I am the vanguard of your destruction.” -Sovereign. Also, probably Paul Elam?
“We are legion.” -Both!
My turn to play with the troll!
“If these landplanets want the opposite sex to like them, then they can get off their asses and improve themselves instead of expecting others to change. That’s what guys are told all the time.”
Landplanets may or may not want someone of the opposite sex to like them, but there’s a difference between asking people to stop calling fat people landplanets and asking people of the opposite sex to be attracted to them.
Assuming that a landplanet wants both of these things, one must consider whether or not a fat person is already interesting. For instance, I would never tell the Dances With Fat blogmisstress to get off her ass and improve herself, because she’s already kinda awesome. That she is also fat is irrelevant, honestly.
When I see people tell guys to improve themselves, it’s usually a Nice Guy whinging on the itnernet about how this woman he’s been pining over without using his words like a big boy is ignoring him and WHYYYYYYY can’t he get all the chicks?! And someone tells him to go develop a hobby, or do something interesting that is not whining about women on the internet.
Be less fat =/= improve yourself == develop an interesting hobby
Got it?
“The fat acceptance movement is overwhelmingly female with a tiny male component and I don’t think it’s hard to see why.”
Because body image disproportionately affects women. Most people hate uber-fatties regardless of gender, but when it comes to the slightly ambiguous fatties, women are more likely to be treated like shit than men.
For instance, when was the last time a woman built like Jonah Hill got that level of fame as a public figure? She wouldn’t be allowed to unless she was THE FAT ONE.
“It doesn’t have much appeal to men, mainly because most of us learn at an early age that there are no safety nets for our gender.”
There are a lot of “safety nets” for men, but I don’t see how that has anything to do with fat acceptance unless you’re sliding into EVERYTHING YOU SAY HAS TO DO WITH HATING MEN BECAUSE WE’RE OPPRESSED BY YOUR VAGINA TINGLES MISANDRY!!1!!!
“Men can only get respect by earning it.”
Human beings, not just men but women and gender queer people, too, can only get respect by earning it. If you have to take it from someone, it’s usually fear and not respect.
“we’re much more likely to actually do things about our problems because that’s our only option for solving them.”
If there is a way to solve a problem besides “doing something about it”, feel free to share, because as far as I know that’s a universal human thing, and women are human beings, too. (Is it odd, guys, that I have to keep repeating this?)
“Women are socialized differently though, and it gives them the massive sense of entitlement which explains why they flock so readily to fat acceptance and all this other body image bullshit.”
What, pray tell, are women entitled to that makes them flock to fat acceptance?
Maybe they just feel entitled to be treated like ACTUAL HUMAN BEINGS?
/end troll feed
Ooh, I have a good mac and cheese recipe that uses cottage cheese, but I’ve never heard of one with yogurt. My other favorite standard is noodles in peanut sauce, because it’s pretty easy to make, you can switch out ingredients depending on taste/dietary restrictions, eat it hot or cold, etc. @pillowinhell I am totally going to check out your blog! 🙂
Ha ha! Misogynists get so mad when women aren’t working hard enough to look pretty for them. What funny little men.
My introduction to fat rights was through Daniel Pinkwater, a first-class fat gentleman.
RE: cloudiah
It’s mega-easy. The box recipe says add the powdered cheese to milk, but that got me a thin, watery, kinda lumpy texture. And I said NO! and then I added Greek yogurt with basil, salt, and pepper instead, and KABAM! There was insta-uber-creamy rich tangy sauce that mixed very nicely with vegetables! (My preferences are spinach, grape tomatoes, and bell pepper, but use your own.)
RE: Shaenon
ZOMG Daniel Pinkwater! I used to own a copy of his “Alan Mendelsohn, the Boy from Mars!”
I LOVE that Patriarchy is dead in the West, and it will not be ressurected. So take that you he-man woman-hating losers.
No I love that these guys simultanously argue that patriarchy doesn’t and never did exist (but boy things were so much better when men ruled uncontested) while also threatening us with patriarchy uprisings.
@LBT: I’m sorry to hear that you tend to freak out in the grocery store. I sometimes feel like, if you go looking, you can find evidence that anything you eat could kill you.
I know a woman whose metabolism crashed because she was drinking too much water, for instance.
The closest I come to your situation is “bleh, I don’t wanna cook tonight. Pizza!” which is lazy-assed-ness rather than anxiety.
I hope you get to feeling better about buying groceries.
… “Landplanets”? Really?