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Not All Misogynists Are Like That

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After hearing a misogynist make some rancid generalization about women based on the terrible behavior of one particular woman, it’s hard not to respond by saying “not all women are like that.” Misogynists hear this so often, and evidently see it as so hilarious, that they’ve invented their own little acronym for the phrase: NAWALT. You’ll find this all the time on MRA sites, along with its sister acronym NAFALT, with “feminists” in the place of “women.”

Many MRAs seem to believe that simply repeating one or another of these acronyms is an effective, and highly witty, rebuttal to their critics. Because to them it is self-evident: All women, all feminists, ARE like that.

So imagine the pleasure I felt when I finally ran across an MRA-ish fellow challenging this conventional wisdom. On his blog la prensa, the regular Spearhead commenter known as Boxer makes this controversial claim:

It is a popular misconception which men hold on to which suggests all women are the same. This is not the case.

Unfortunately, my pleasure lasted only as long as it took to read these two sentences. Because then Boxer went on to explain just what he meant by this:

For example: Some women are whores, and others are even trashier than whores. Some women live in houses where the litter boxes overflow and the pungent aroma of catshit lingers lovingly in the air. Other women are allergic to cats, and their houses carry the stench of human feces, rotting food and the cheap perfumes they douse themselves in.

Apparently Boxer has never been invited into any woman’s house, and bases most of his opinions of the fair sex on reruns of Hoarders.

Men will center themselves upon these notable differences, and mistakenly assume that the diversity of individual women points to differences in the way individual women behave. Such high-minded fools usually learn the hard way, when the woman decides to “cash out” with the help of the state and its family law courts, who are always eager to liquidate a lifetime of male planning and work, dividing it between themselves and the cunt which the fool so stupidly married.

See yesterday’s post for more on women and their apparently insatiable hunger for D-I-V-O-R-C-E.

The foolish man, confronted by a mountain of inescapable evidence that every woman, from his mother and sister down to the bitch who empties the trashcan in his office, is a trashy slut, will immediately construct an intricate conspiracy theory between his ears. ‘Yes,’ the dumbass tells himself, ‘all the women I have ever known were and are trashy skanks, but that’s just because western society has brainwashed all the women in my own vicinity with its toxic headpoison.”

I am actually pretty sure my mom is not a slut. (Though I have heard that Las Vegas is full of them.)

This mangina will be aided along in his misconception by other manginas and white knights, often falling in with a disgruntled lot on various loser’s hangouts, in real life or on the internet. Often these men get “yellow fever”, and fly off to some third world shitheap to marry (again) in an effort to find that one precious snowflake who is not a third rate whore among the billions and billions of cunts on planet earth who prove their utter worthlessness on a daily basis.

Oh dear. I think Boxer is about to add a heaping helping of racism on top of his misogyny sundae.

It is true that Asian bitches tend to be slimmer and more intelligent than those in the white and black camps, but that just means they are more cunning, and better able to exploit the chumps who delude themselves into thinking that marrying and serving an oriental master is somehow “better” than being the slave of a homegrown American cunt.

Huh. Honestly, that wasn’t quite as bad as I was expecting. Though after nearly two years of intense study of the manosphere, I have some pretty high standards for offensiveness.

For all their variety, bitches’ behavior is uniformly lousy, and in that regard, all women are indeed like that. Yes, all of them, all around the world. This is not a war, it is something more analogous to an organized deer hunt, and you are the prey. For god’s fuck’n sake, quit marrying these slits already.

And so we circle back around to “all women ARE like that.”

Still, I have to say I agree with Boxer’s final sentence. Dudes, if you believe any of this crap, please do not marry women. Or, really, have any contact with them whatsoever. Frankly, I’d suggest that you find yourself a nice uninhabited island – like, say, this one – and move there posthaste. You’ll be much happier, and so will the rest of us.

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jumbofish
8 years ago

an atheist *gasp*!!!!……..

Oh wait I am one too….

Cliff Pervocracy
8 years ago

Wow, you guys just can’t let it go, huh? We have differing opinions, that’s all. I believe there’s something to Evolutionary Psychology, I’m a Libertarian, and that’s OK. Just let it go and take a deep breath. Everything will be fine. No one will freak out if I reveal that I’m an Atheist, right?

Atheism doesn’t involve poor people dying because they just didn’t work hard enough, and atheism doesn’t involve declaring that women are biologically programmed in just the same way the misogynists claim they are.

So it’s not quite the same, no.

VoIP
VoIP
8 years ago

VoIP: I wouldn’t say JY Ready was underground.

His ideas all came from the radical right, which despite its inroads into what until recently was the mainstream right, still is a little outre. He really was a Nazi, for instance. This is more accebtable than it used to be, but still out there.

VoIP
VoIP
8 years ago

Cliff to Ruby

Wow, Ruby, maybe our opinions differ from yours, huh?

I’ve been getting a lot of mileage out of this gif recently.

Kyrie
Kyrie
8 years ago

Cliff: well it’s Ruby, so I wouldn’t be surprised if her view on atheism lead on unexpected places.

katz
8 years ago

Is it just me, or is evo psych to atheism like complementarianism is to Christianity? You know, because there are sexist assholes in every religion and type of belief, so each one needs some kind of BS explanation.

pillowinhell
8 years ago

It would seem so. Can we hurry up and meet an alien race to that humanity can realize we are far more alike than different?

Kyrie
Kyrie
8 years ago

Just reading SF and fantasy about aliens, robots and other non-humans can work too. But I wouldn’t put hope too much in that, plausibility aside.
White people defined themselves for a long time by opposition to PoC, and a white man was far more “alike” a white woman than a man of color, and yet sexism and patriarchy were at their “finest”. Humanity often tried to define itself by opposition to animals (so many people still does, and react with anger when told humans are, very literally, animals) and yet it never stopped any kind of bigotry.

I would rather bet on that.

Unimaginative
Unimaginative
8 years ago

Holy freaking seed beetle murder-dick! Good gravy, I could have gone my whole life without seeing that D:

Pecunium
8 years ago

VoIP: His ideas all came from the radical right, which despite its inroads into what until recently was the mainstream right, still is a little outre. He really was a Nazi, for instance. This is more acceptable than it used to be, but still out there.

He wasn’t hiding it, and he was tolerably chummy with a sitting congressman. He was running for sheriff; and still hanging out with Nazis. He may not have been mainstream, but he wasn’t hiding his affiliations, which is how I interpret the word, “underground”.

Pecunium
8 years ago

Ruby: Wow, you guys just can’t let it go, huh? We have differing opinions, that’s all. I believe there’s something to Evolutionary Psychology, I’m a Libertarian, and that’s OK. Just let it go and take a deep breath. Everything will be fine. No one will freak out if I reveal that I’m an Atheist, right?

No.

Ignoring that what you are calling an opinion now you were presenting as fact before (and pretending we were denying), the issue, for me, isn’t that.

It’s that what you said here, was at odds with what you said there.

You said, “When a man does something negative, it only reflects badly on him. When a woman does something negative, it reflects badly on her entire gender. This is how MRA’s think.” and, “He’s an individual, and doesn’t reflect the behavior of all men. So why do misogynists not give credit to women for being individuals?

Not two weeks ago you were saying that women, as class, were gold-diggers because of evolution. So you are willing to give credit to men, which you weren’t willing to do for women. You ignored our evidence. I don’t know why, but I have speculations

That’s hypocrisy, on top of insult.

Cliff Pervocracy
8 years ago

Aw great, now Ruby’s going to come back in here and post more professors’ resumes, then throw a shit-fit that we don’t consider a resume proof that everything a person says is correct.

extraterrestrial biological entity princess

Darksidecat makes a good point. In the bad old days, proving adultery et c. meant spying on the spouse and dragging one spouse’s reputation thru the mud and airing a family’s dirty linen in public. That was not a good thing, particularly for any children. It really is better to tell the kids and the world “we aren’t happy together” than put a family thru that.

pillowinhell
8 years ago

One of the enexpected benefits of no fault divorce was that suicides amongst women dropped.

Pecunium
8 years ago

pillowinhell: That just goes to show that it’s a misandric idea.

pillowinhell
8 years ago

Truly, it means more time some poor bastard has to listen to endless bitching, fix problems he didn’t make and waste endless amounts supporting a woman and the womb fruit she spits out.

Suicide by marriage saved men so many dreary hassels. / end sarcasm

cloudiah
8 years ago

It’s a zero sum game, suicide, ya know. It is precisely because women’s suicide rate went down after no fault divorce [do you have a cite for that, BTW?] that men’s suicide rates are so high today. The only way to make things right is to figure out how to make the ladies more successful at suicide today, thereby saving the lives of men. Science!

/sarcasm

Fembot
Fembot
8 years ago

WTF is with this “hypergamy” obsession? That one word is supposed to sum up who I am as a human being, rendering all further discussion unnecessary? Really?

pillowinhell
8 years ago

Fembot, not quite. They use sperm toilet to do that.

Argenti Aertheri
Argenti Aertheri
8 years ago

@cloudiah — “The only way to make things right is to figure out how to make the ladies more successful at suicide today” — that must be why they’re making pink guns now, not like the barrel color affects accuracy, or the strength to pull the trigger or anything. (Men are more “successful” at suicide because of differences in methods, not suicidality, so you want more women killing themselves, make the methods men use more appealing to women?)

That’s mostly snark, as my favorite theory why women tend to choose less lethal methods was the snarky answer of “because they know it’ll be another woman cleaning it up”

Argenti Aertheri
Argenti Aertheri
8 years ago

@pillowinhell, women are sperm toilets? That’s kinda ironic given they’d probably be much happier if they’d deposit sperm in the toilet instead of complaining they can’t get laid cuz those bitch! …or is their sperm too good for the toilet?

Shaun Day
Shaun Day
8 years ago

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferdinandea

Can we please send the MRA’s here instead?

jamesdean19841776
jamesdean19841776
7 years ago

Hey Manboobz, you are not helping your point. Your man-hating blog just adds more gas to the fire and more proof that even though NAWALT the good ones are damn hard to find (TGOADHTF?). Then even if you find a good one (very hard), there is a good chance she will change into a bad one later! The fact is men can’t tell the difference between good women and bad women… and because of the institution of divorce/family court bias against men a woman does have the power to ruin a man’s life. Women just aren’t worth the risk unless it is just for a quick pump n’ dump (and even then you have to be careful … hotsauce in the condom, etc). Do us all a favor and explain to us in your infinte wisdom how happiness and peace of mind is achievable for men under the current matriarchy. Or, better yet, tell us what you really think … that you don’t care! Big surprise you have zero compassion for men … you are Like That after all 🙂

cloudiah
7 years ago

Hey, Jimmy, what a great idea. Put hot sauce in your condoms before you put them on. In fact, may I suggest this one?

The Kittehs' Unpaid Help

Oooh, another big brave troll necroing an old thread in a desperate attempt to get the last word! You’re not original, jimmyboy. In fact you’re just as stupid and delusional as the rest of the cretins of the MRM (who, btw, do not represent men or even a considerable minority of men). Believe it or not, “man” and “misogynist” are not synonymous, and it’s the latter this blog mocks – and that, gee golly, includes misogyny that comes from women!

Argenti Aertheri
Argenti Aertheri
7 years ago

First, congrats jamesdean19841776!

Second, holy shit I’ve been around here, on and off, for nearly a year!

The Kittehs' Unpaid Help

Anniversary celebrations! What should we order in? Extra helpings of kittens or colourful cushions? Anniversary edition hard chairs? Both, prolly, cos the kittens will need cushions, they can’t be expected to sit on hard chairs, obvs. Unless of course they’re doing that after rejecting all the soft cushions, because cats.

Argenti Aertheri
Argenti Aertheri
7 years ago

Also, thick gloves please, I’m apparently a scratching post or something. I’ve got scratch marks from two different cats currently!

…thick everything actually, the first cat caught me in the leg while stretching…

katz
7 years ago

Anniversary flavored bottled water seems apropos.

Argenti Aertheri
Argenti Aertheri
7 years ago

VitaminWater XXX please!

Then again…is coffee flavored water? I mean, it is just water with stuff added right? XD

Also, chocolate, and yes, I share!

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
7 years ago

I vote for this hot sauce, in order to save women who might be about to accidentally fuck an MRA from such an unfortunate situation. Nothing like a bright green cock to trigger a “hmm, maybe this isn’t such a great idea” response.

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
7 years ago

And of course I forgot the link.

http://www.pepperschlepper.com/images/1117.jpg

The Kittehs' Unpaid Help

” I’m apparently a scratching post or something.”

It’s nice to have a purpose in life. 🙂

titianblue
titianblue
7 years ago

@Kitteh, could we include “cretin” in the list of ableist words, please?

I sympathise with Jimmy boy – he can’t tell good women from bad and his consequentially crappy love-life is obviously making him bad-tempered. Doesn’t make him less objectionable for crapping that bad-temper all over us though.

hellkell
hellkell
7 years ago

“Matriarchy?” LOL, I wish.

Jimmy, please put hot sauce in your condoms.

pecunium
7 years ago

Oh Sausageboy: Do us all a favor and explain to us in your infinte wisdom how happiness and peace of mind is achievable for men under the current matriarchy.

Your problem is you are blind, and delusional. There is no matriarchy. That’s the first part. The second is that happiness is, largely, an internal issue. If you find a woman/partner (I say woman because you are asking in a heteronormative fashion; though this isn’t an absolute issue anymore; esp. since a number of states have become more rational and aren’t denying marriage to non-straights, but I digress), who want’s what you want, and you are willing to do the work required to attain a balance of what you both want/need you will find happiness and peace of mind.

You, however, think this is impossible (and given the usual assumptions, ideas, bigotries and just plain hate, people who speak as you just did seem to have I suspect you can’t fathom how to do any of that, and are likely to be some sort of abusive; which isn’t the basis of a happy relationship: even if you manage to get one started you will have to work to “keep her in line” and your insecurities will lead to constant doubt. You will always be afraid you aren’t the “Alpha” she wants, just the, “Beta” she settled for; and she’s sneaking around getting the good sex from someone else; even though she’s in love with you, or was when it started).

So, for, “men” happiness and peace of mind are possible. For you, probably not.

And me, I’m cool with that. You made your bed, and if it’s cold and lumpy, and damp in the middle, that’s your fault and not my problem.

Dyia
Dyia
5 years ago

This site chants ‘misogynist’ like a kind of magical incantation. “Anyone who disagrees with me is a misogynist” facepalm

olanna
olanna
5 years ago

amen to your last sentence It’s 100% HOW I feel. Leave us t he fuck alone.

Lea
Lea
5 years ago

Dyia,
You do know that we can all read the posts here and you lying about their content is pointless, right?
…and yes, if you disagree that women deserve the same human rights as everyone else you are a misogynist. I think you and you’re (most likely) sock friend are upset that David hit your nail directly and firmly upon it’s widdle head.

…and if you have to come to a thread that is 2 months old to tell people who have never once approached you to leave you alone, you might also need to wake yourself up with a nice hot cup of self awareness. You came here. To necro a thread. That wasn’t about you.
…unless it was. In which case,
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Lea
Lea
5 years ago

*your*

I can do typing!

Luzbelitx
5 years ago

Wow, thread from 2012 necro’d twice in a few months.

Excellent place to demand we leave “you” alone o.O

contrapangloss
5 years ago

… I want you to leave me alone. That’s why I’m jumping up and down in your abandoned playhouse in your backyard, yelling! Wait! You’ve noticed I’m in your backyard?

LEAVE ME ALONE!

Paradoxical Intention
5 years ago

Yet again, MGTOWs want women to “leave them alone” under the delusion that we’re all begging them to stay here.

No, dude, we don’t want you here. GO. AWAY. Are you waiting for an embossed invitation? Like seriously? Have we not made it clear by now?

http://33.media.tumblr.com/3fdafbfb82a1826c96e4f2c29b9719c8/tumblr_mzat98LhH01rfduvxo1_500.gif

Imperator Kahlo
Imperator Kahlo
5 years ago

I get the impression that Olanna may have been saying amen to David’s final sentence, encouraging MRAs to definitely avoid the women they so obviously despise, rather than the icky troll’s. Maybe.

Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Banana Jackie Cake, for those who still want to call me "Banana", "Jackie" or whatever)
Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Banana Jackie Cake, for those who still want to call me "Banana", "Jackie" or whatever)
5 years ago

I get that impression to, Kahlo, since they where talking about the last sentence in context to the rest of the post.

Lea
Lea
5 years ago

Ooooh. That makes more sense.

Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Banana Jackie Cake, for those who still want to call me "Banana", "Jackie" or whatever)
Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Banana Jackie Cake, for those who still want to call me "Banana", "Jackie" or whatever)
5 years ago

People probably may need apologize maybe. Depends if they come back, I guess, and what their response is, if they haven’t been scared away.

contrapangloss
5 years ago

Yep. If they were agreeing with David’s last sentence, then yes, we were meanie-meanies who misread their comment and Olanna would deserve apologies.

They would definitely deserve all my contrition and apologies.

It’s kind of hard to read, and I think I probably totally misread it… now that I’m rereading things.

Olanna, sorry! My bad. Totes my bad.

Kahlo, you’re probably right. Whoops.

Paradoxical Intention
5 years ago

Olanna, I have to add my apologies to the mix. I was kind of just following along with the regulars. That’ll teach me to read more closely in the future. >.<
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That reminds me…anyone else ever get that feeling after you look at a word too long that it just feels like it's not right somehow?