What do feminists want? Equal work for equal pay? An end to sexual violence? A new album from Le Tigre? Nope. According to the dude behind the still-awkwardly named Pro-Male/Anti-Feminist Technology blog, what they really want is to GET THE RING and get hitched up to some nice man they can happily exploit. Yep, feminists love marriage more than almost anything. Why? Because getting married is the necessary first step towards getting a nice, profitable divorce. Mr. PMAFT explains:
Anyone who tells you that getting married and having children fights feminism is wrong. Feminism is dependent on marriage and family. Without it, feminism would collapse. When socons and tradcons push for marriage, they are working to create more feminism.
But …
Some of you are thinking, “what about all those feminists who want to ‘destroy marriage’?” … [T]his represents a misunderstanding of what feminism is and how pervasive it is. A few lesbians who want to destroy marriage don’t really represent the totality of feminism. The most prominent strain of feminism currently in existence is hybrid feminism or cafeteria feminism, which combines anything from what is traditionally thought of as “feminism” to conservatism and traditionalism that benefits women.
Um, I’m pretty sure that the traditionalists are not eating in the same cafeteria as the “cafeteria feminists.” But PMAFT is on a roll:
The hybrid or cafeteria feminist does not want to “destroy marriage” as such. They have no interest in living in lesbian communes. They want to be able to cash out and destroy THEIR marriages via divorce whenever they feel like it, but they still want to get married when they want. If marriage was completely destroyed, then they wouldn’t be able to fleece men of their children and financial assets because they wouldn’t be able to get married in the first place to have a divorce. Without the use of marriage and divorce, it becomes nearly impossible for feminism to steal the wealth of men. … Feminism is now completely dependent on marriage and family.
Huh, because most of the feminists I know, oh, never mind.
This is the reason why the marriage strike is such a large threat to feminism. Without men getting married, the engine of feminism doesn’t have the fuel it needs to keep going, and it stalls.
I’m pretty sure most feminist women will get along just fine even if they can’t marry you.
Several people have pointed out that both parties to a marriage are able to make a decision to end it. Also, many people are simply not getting married for various reasons.
Of course, none of the original poster’s rant takes into account gay people at all. I guess lesbians and gays just do not exist for MRAs, ever.
How’s that VR wife replacement coming, Zarat?
You’re right, nwoslave, men DON’T have the right to having sex with someone that doesn’t want to have sex, that’s called rape. You know who else doesn’t have that right? Women. I know, shocking.
And by the way, sex is not a biological need.
NWO has once again graced us with his opinions; I just let a batch of his comments through moderation. Scroll up, be annoyed, etc.
Antzy Pantsy, I am pretty sure this entire thread has been people saying that this is not true.
Anyway, as somebody else said, ignoring the FIRE AND DESTRUCTION language, there is nothing wrong with marrying someone when you want to and divorcing somebody when you want to. The alternative is forcing people to stay in marriages they don’t want. Do you support that?
You know, if someone showed me statistics demonstrating that MRAs lose custody at a higher rate than average parents, I would believe it. Being raised by someone who thinks kids are (as Shaenon put it) “dogs that can use the toilet” is not in the “best interests of the child.”
Oh geez, NWO wrote another screed about legalizing rape? Figures.
You do realize, NWO, that we remember that you are the guy who advocated for women to be enslaved and issued to men as sex slaves, starting super young of course.
You are also the guy who is mad that domestic violence is illegal.
Well, NWO, seeing as there was a thread last year mocking some guy who basically thought skidmarks were A-OK and if you thought otherwise, misandry, I’m going to say MRAs need SOMEONE’S guidance to wipe their asses.
Says the guy who has argued at length that housework and childrearing takes pretty much next to no work because he lives out of a suitcase
Bees for burritos! Burritos for bees! Bee burritos for some! Burrito bees for others!
Yeah, I know I’m just echoing other people’s much better comments here, but I, personally don’t want to get married. BUT, as to other people? I see no problem with any two people who want to get married getting married to each other. And I also see no problem with the marriage ending if either one of those people comes to the conclusion that they want the marriage to end.
What the fuck kind of person wants people to get married when they don’t want to get married, and wants to force people who don’t want to be together to be together? That’s actually pretty evil, AntZ.
lolmg he is even doing it RIGHT NOW in the other thread:
Since everyone who is on their own does all these things in their spare time, (it really takes very little time or effort). The value for those tasks is minimal to non-existant.
Even with a child, whose usually tossed out the door at the age of five into preschool, it’s not hard at all, nor is it time consuming. If it was this massively time consuming job, no one who had a child could ever work at any other job. It wouldn’t be possible to both work and keep a house, let alone a child. Since that’s what lot’s of people do, all those tasks you claim are so difficult, expensive and time consuming are somehow done in everyones spare time.
How can something done in a persons spare time, which is far less then even a part time job be considered this monsterously hard and invaluable, time consuming job? The answer of course is, it’s not.
Well apparently I’ve been doing feminism all wrong then, because I have absolutely zero desire to marry or have children. Ever.
And no, NWO, you don’t get to tell women what they can and can’t do with the embryo/ zygote/fetus growing in THEIR BODY nor can you force women to have sex with you, you sick fuck.
There were 10 weddings in this building today. Including one couple getting remarried.
So yeah…shut up MRAs.
yeah…not really seeing to much evidence of a marraige strike…plenty of people are getting married and having kids…MRAs live in la la land
also fuck off NWO abortion is not murder and forcing women to give birth is as sick as hell..
@ hellkell
That was Steve Hoca. I laughed my ass off!!
So succinct. Is it too much to ask to get a Greasemonkey script that replaces all slavey posts with arglebargle?
MRAs have the audacity to presume that since they are failures with women, all men are (except the few alphas, who apparently ALL the women are sleeping with), and women are all inherently to blame. You have a lot of nerve to assume that your life experiences must hold true for the rest of the world. Or maybe that’s the only way you can get out of bed in the morning.
RE: Alpha Asshole Cock Carousel
Greasemonkey, nothing. My mind does that automatically with everything he writes.
@Lady …:
Yes, but the question is: Why is it normally a constitutional right that you can’t be punished for not being able to pay your debts but with the exception of not being able to pay child support/alimony?
Putting yourself in a state where you can’t pay your debts can ruin people’s lives who are not your child or spouse, too! I can accept that child support debts are privileged, but why alimony debts?
Usually, when NWO shows up, I reprint the Book of Learnin’, just so people remember with whom they’re dealing. But today’s my birthday, and my birthday should be all about love. Therefore, for the rest of the day, I will respond only with Jonathan Coulton lyrics.
I was dancing at a nightclub one Friday night
And that nightclub bar was a little uptight
Yeah, I was dancing all alone, a little self-conscious
When some kids came up and said, “For dancing, come with us.”
And soon…
I was dancing in the lesbian bar
I was dancing in the lesbian bar
Well, I was dancing in the lesbian bar
In the industrial zone
I was dancing with my friends
And dancing alone
Well, the first bar, things were all right
But in this bar, things were Friday night
In the first bar, things were just all right
This bar, things were Friday night
Sorry, not Jonathan Coulton, Jonathan Richman. Although Jonathan Coulton would be good too.
That’s close, but not quite right. The truth is that I am the only feminist on the planet. Any and all other feminists you might encounter anywhere ever are only my sockpuppets.
Now, if you’ll excuse me, it’s time for the feminist monolith (aka, me) to go eat popcorn and watch My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic, which is of course where I get all my feminist man-oppressing ideas from. (On tonight’s agenda: Canterlot wedding = Canterlot divorce, natch!)
Happy Birthday, Shaenon!
Who’s NWO? 😉