Paul Elam, head ranter at A Voice for Men, has a new video out called “You want privilege? You got it!” The thesis: if women really did have the so-called privileges that men have, they’d hate it and want men to take them all back. Because all of these so-called privileges are really giant burdens. Or, as Elam puts it, somewhat more melodramatically, these privileges have “begun to more resemble an anchor around your neck than the helm of a great ship that everyone tells you that you are captaining.”
Here’s the video.
Well, all right, that’s not really Paul Elam. But that little clip does capture pretty well the tone of his latest post, which is indeed about how male privilege is really a terrible burden.
I mean, this is his opener:
I swear by everything holy that the next time I hear some fembot caterwaul about “male privilege,” I am going to find something to break, turn it into shards, and drag the broken pieces across my chest just to distract me from the pain of their increasing stupidity. Just picture me like Martin Sheen, collapsed in a heap of bloody, tearful insanity on the floor of a cheap hotel in Saigon.
Heck, compared to that, Mr. McDuck’s reaction to the news about his “ice cream” was, if anything, rather restrained.
The rest of Elam’s post is, as is typical for him, a rather trite recitation of a number of standard Men’s Rights talking points about male “disposability” written in some of the most ridiculously overblown prose ever seen outside of an Ayn Rand novel.
Elam complains that he hasn’t seen much benefit from his privileges:
Mind you I still don’t know what that privilege is. One time when I was young and very poor I was late on my light bill. I showed the electric company my balls, but they cut my power off anyway. …
Yeah, as someone who’s also had his power cut off, I’m pretty sure they do that with everyone. I’m also pretty sure that no feminist has ever or will ever argue that male privilege means you won’t get your power cut off for nonpayment.
Here’s Elam addressing women as if they’ve traded place with men:
With your privilege comes the right to work on crab boats, drive trucks, work on electric lines, walk into burning buildings and sink into the bowels of the earth digging out coal and other things people find useful.
Apparently having greater occupational choices is scary and bad.
When a ship goes down, or any other life threatening disaster strikes, you have two choices. Be a real woman and die, or treat your life like it has value and have the world shit on you as a coward who refused to perish on cue. There is also the possibility of third option, either die from the disaster so that men can live, or have another woman blow a fucking hole in your face with a pistol because you tried to save yourself.
Yeah, I believe we may have addressed this earlier. Oh, but there’s more:
Like noticing the emperor has no clothes, it may hit you one day when you decide not to offer your seat to a man; when the stares at you from all around seem to come down people’s noses. …
You must learn not to say a word. Not to anyone else, not even to yourself. You must learn to see flames, coal dust, icy saltwater, death and sacrifice for the trappings of power that the world around you thinks them to be.
Says a dude typing out his manifestos on an expensive laptop he conned nagged his followers into buying for him.
And you must be willing to hang your head in shame over that power, even as the world chews you up, spits you out, and gets ready to take its turn with your daughter.
Elam’s rousing conclusion:
So, that is it, ladies. You want my privilege, it is yours. I will gladly hand it over to you this very minute. I am just waiting for you to meet the pre-requisites of disposibilty and an utter lack of self-value. I am waiting for you to woman up to the job, take off your fucking make up and be ready to bleed, blah blah blah look at me I’m mad!
I paraphrased a little at the end there. But, yes, the world champion at seeing male “disposability” everywhere did in fact misspell the word “disposability.” That was all him. And so, believe it or not, is the following:
I, like a Jew gone weary of being called a chosen one, am completely ready for anyone else, and in particular, you, to be chosen.
Personally, I have had about all the privilege I can stand.
Yep. He went there.
Also, I don’t know if you all knew this, but when women serve in the military these days it’s “like a day care camp for them.”
Also, not to pat myself on the back or anything, but my headline is much better than his. Maybe he should get me to write all the headlines on A Voice for Angry Duck Plutocrats Men.
Discuss.
“.. Oh, now there’s another false accusation in AntZ’s story and this one involves female-on-male rape as well ..”
I guess I have lived an interesting life:
1) At 13 my professional academic feminist mother gave me to her feminist friends as a sex toy.
2) At 28 I attempted to help a 17 year old homeless girl. This happened largely because of (1). My mother used sex, guns, and more to train her children as good little manginas. During the drive home, I realized there was a danger of a false rape accusation.
3) To protect me from (2), I agreed to a sexual relationship with a hot woman who agreed to move in with me on the same day. She then fell obsessively in love with me.
4) The hot woman used many threats, including false domestic violence, to force me to have sex with her.
5) When I finally left her, the hot woman called the police and accused me of domestic violence. She was not believed because I had an audio recording of the whole thing.
Any questions?
Wrong. In order to be aquitted you have to have a trial. Both of these cases were dropped before ever going to trial.
In the Duke case the young men in question lost a lacrosse season and were put under a fair bit of stress (which I will agree is bad) but their lives were in no way ruined. They have no criminal records, few people outside their immediate circle of friends and family even know their names, and as far as I’m aware they’ve all completed their undergraduate degrees and probably have jobs (or are furthering their educations).
Strauss-Kahn on the other hand is under investigation on other charges at the moment and he has a history of treating women badly even before the sexual assault complaint. He really isn’t the example you want to use since he truly does appear to be at best a corrupt politician and at worst a rapist and criminal.
Of course William would rather focus on Duke, because it’s MRAL.
AntZ, I don’t even know what to say about your story. On the one hand, if that happened, that is terrible. On the other, you are a known liar.
The Duke case is a mess all around. I don’t think the woman consciously made things up. I think something traumatizing, perhaps rape perhaps not, actually happened to her but she wasn’t in a state to give a clear account (not uncommon when drugs and/or alcohol are involved) and police questioning along with other things helped build a story in her mind. The research on false memories is fascinating. I don’t lay the blame for Duke at her feet but at the feet of the investigators and prosecutor who tried to build a case on a poor recollection of events and virtually no evidence.
yeah, what it is that compels you to keep making this shit up?
so at this point avfm basically exists to be elam’s pity party, huh?
Antz, like… get help, dude. Just get help.
Most people’s BAD relationships are far less warped than this little tale you’ve spun.
David, the only explenation that I can give is that I was a hopeless mangina at the time. It was terribly important to me to be a perfect “nice guy”. I fancied myself a gifted teacher (turned out not to be true), and I thought I could train the girl to get her high school equivalence and also to overcome alcohool addiction. Helping her was supposed to be a badge of honor that I would have worn my whole life.
Barf. Disgusting.
Oddly, I already hated feminists then. I know because I remember visiting a Barns & Nobles book store and reading a book in the women’s studies section. The book made me incredibly angry, and I remember the book’s spine breaking. This made me feel relieved, as though I had struck back somehow.
Maybe the best answer to “why” is, because I was an idiot.
I never told anyone this stuff, not even my wife. Why am I telling you people?
Dude, this isn’t even what “nice guy” MEANS. Even the most negative connotation is “a shy, awkward, passive aggressive dude who can’t get laid”, not “a guy who makes deeply warped moral choices because his mom threatened him with a gun and then decides to have a sexual relationship with someone for the strangest reason possible”.
Again, get help. There’s even FREE therapy available!
I don’t know, AntZ, why are you telling us? Is it because you’re lying? I mean, you’ve never once come here in good faith, so now you can go back to your rock and say how mean the feminists are to you.
Seek a more productive outlet for your shit than coming here and spreading lies. Sympathy is between shit and syphillis if you’re looking.
You know I personally don’t believe a word you are saying but it’s utterly irrelevant because you know what? Your story is pretty damn irrelevant too. If a few bad incidents with women is suppose to be proof that all feminists are bad then you fail to prove anything. I could share stories of bad feminists or all the bad things men have done to be but that wouldn’t prove much of anything. I used to go on this one forum and this guy was a complete racist and used his bad experiences with poc as a reason for hating them. It’s a shit excuse only a shitty person would use.
Antz: Don’t tell us. Tell a therapist. Tell your wife. Get help, seriously.
*done to me
Antz, I mean this seriously, if your stories are true, you should be talking about all this with a therapist, not with people on a message board who you continually try to antagonize. And I guarantee you that hanging out on AVFM (and believing the shit Elam et al are shoveling there) isn’t doing you any good either.
Anthony…. Christ. I’m sorry. I don’t even know what to say. If you ever want to talk, you can reach me at [email protected].
I know Antz’ latest delusion is highly interesting, but I just wanted to re-rail a bit and point out that there’s already a government entity that looks after men’s health issues; It’s called the Department of Health and Human Services. And that’s the male privilege that he and Elam seem to miss, men don’t get a special department, because the main department takes care of them.
Antz, oh boy. When I asked for more details I didn’t mean “was the 17 year old HOTTTTTTTT?”
But he already mentioned that she never falsely accused him of rape. What else is important about a woman besides her hotness?
Chibigodzilla, that’s why prostate funding is a tiny fraction of the friggin’ trillions and trillions for breast cancer research. Your misandry denialism is showing.
“Misandry denialism,” William? HAHAHA, OK.
Tell me, do you have an evening height and a morning height?
William, all forms of cancer research are a tiny fraction of breast cancer research. Breast cancer research is a freakishly well-funded phenomenon. People (including men) who develop breast cancer have access to resources that just don’t exist for people who develop, say, ovarian cancer, cervical cancer, throat cancer. The relatively smaller amount of money spent on prostate cancer than breast cancer doesn’t mean misandry, no matter how hard you try to spin it that way.
Zarat, if any of this is real, I’m sorry for what you’ve been through and I hope you seek some kind of counseling to deal with it. But since you’ve repeatedly stated that Antz/Zarat is your “war name” for picking fights with feminists and you feel justified in lying to advance your anti-woman cause, I hope you understand our reluctance to believe you.
Polycystic Ovary Syndrome and endometriosis are diseases, you douchebag. Ones that require treatment with birth control pills.
I notice Antz hasn’t answered me about his lie about Sandra Fluke’s testimony. Convenient that he and Slavey never address me when I point out the massive flaws in their crap.
@Anthony Zarat: Let me get this straight. On looking back at a young girl you tried to help – a girl who, according to you, seemed well intentioned by accepting your help to improve her grades w/ nary a false accusation, attending AA meetings, not even inconveniencing you w/ the phone bill since she was underaged – you considered it “disgusting,” a pathetic mangina move on your part.
However, on looking back at a seemingly unstable woman who, according to you, threathened you w/ false rape and suicide, willingly went to the police under false pleas of help, and even threw a lawsuit in your face and weaseled payment out of you, you have “no ill will towards her, and I wish her well”??
And how convenient is it that that disgusting dropout you opened up was immensely obese, and the woman who tried wreaking havoc on your life was a Freida Pinto clone with a bangin’ bod?
Yeah, no wonder no one’s buying it, buddy.
AntZ- you were groomed to be sexually molested and raped and also psychologically tortured at the hands of your mother.
So was I. And I’m female.
These are not things that “feminists” do- these are things that predators (who can be female as well as male) do to their victims. You are channeling your rage and trauma at an entire group of people based on what is between their legs- is that any less messed up than what you accuse “feminazis” of doing?
Get some help for your problems- at the very least, you probably have PTSD, and you’ve internalized a lot of anger in your feelings of powerlessness to stop the abuse. Don’t let it eat you alive and cause you to make poisonous decisions about how you treat other people.
Telling people is the first step. From there, you have to work through it- one step at a time so YOU can be healthy and happy.
*opened up TO
It’s late, everybody.