Paul Elam, head ranter at A Voice for Men, has a new video out called “You want privilege? You got it!” The thesis: if women really did have the so-called privileges that men have, they’d hate it and want men to take them all back. Because all of these so-called privileges are really giant burdens. Or, as Elam puts it, somewhat more melodramatically, these privileges have “begun to more resemble an anchor around your neck than the helm of a great ship that everyone tells you that you are captaining.”
Here’s the video.
Well, all right, that’s not really Paul Elam. But that little clip does capture pretty well the tone of his latest post, which is indeed about how male privilege is really a terrible burden.
I mean, this is his opener:
I swear by everything holy that the next time I hear some fembot caterwaul about “male privilege,” I am going to find something to break, turn it into shards, and drag the broken pieces across my chest just to distract me from the pain of their increasing stupidity. Just picture me like Martin Sheen, collapsed in a heap of bloody, tearful insanity on the floor of a cheap hotel in Saigon.
Heck, compared to that, Mr. McDuck’s reaction to the news about his “ice cream” was, if anything, rather restrained.
The rest of Elam’s post is, as is typical for him, a rather trite recitation of a number of standard Men’s Rights talking points about male “disposability” written in some of the most ridiculously overblown prose ever seen outside of an Ayn Rand novel.
Elam complains that he hasn’t seen much benefit from his privileges:
Mind you I still don’t know what that privilege is. One time when I was young and very poor I was late on my light bill. I showed the electric company my balls, but they cut my power off anyway. …
Yeah, as someone who’s also had his power cut off, I’m pretty sure they do that with everyone. I’m also pretty sure that no feminist has ever or will ever argue that male privilege means you won’t get your power cut off for nonpayment.
Here’s Elam addressing women as if they’ve traded place with men:
With your privilege comes the right to work on crab boats, drive trucks, work on electric lines, walk into burning buildings and sink into the bowels of the earth digging out coal and other things people find useful.
Apparently having greater occupational choices is scary and bad.
When a ship goes down, or any other life threatening disaster strikes, you have two choices. Be a real woman and die, or treat your life like it has value and have the world shit on you as a coward who refused to perish on cue. There is also the possibility of third option, either die from the disaster so that men can live, or have another woman blow a fucking hole in your face with a pistol because you tried to save yourself.
Yeah, I believe we may have addressed this earlier. Oh, but there’s more:
Like noticing the emperor has no clothes, it may hit you one day when you decide not to offer your seat to a man; when the stares at you from all around seem to come down people’s noses. …
You must learn not to say a word. Not to anyone else, not even to yourself. You must learn to see flames, coal dust, icy saltwater, death and sacrifice for the trappings of power that the world around you thinks them to be.
Says a dude typing out his manifestos on an expensive laptop he conned nagged his followers into buying for him.
And you must be willing to hang your head in shame over that power, even as the world chews you up, spits you out, and gets ready to take its turn with your daughter.
Elam’s rousing conclusion:
So, that is it, ladies. You want my privilege, it is yours. I will gladly hand it over to you this very minute. I am just waiting for you to meet the pre-requisites of disposibilty and an utter lack of self-value. I am waiting for you to woman up to the job, take off your fucking make up and be ready to bleed, blah blah blah look at me I’m mad!
I paraphrased a little at the end there. But, yes, the world champion at seeing male “disposability” everywhere did in fact misspell the word “disposability.” That was all him. And so, believe it or not, is the following:
I, like a Jew gone weary of being called a chosen one, am completely ready for anyone else, and in particular, you, to be chosen.
Personally, I have had about all the privilege I can stand.
Yep. He went there.
Also, I don’t know if you all knew this, but when women serve in the military these days it’s “like a day care camp for them.”
Also, not to pat myself on the back or anything, but my headline is much better than his. Maybe he should get me to write all the headlines on A Voice for Angry Duck Plutocrats Men.
Discuss.
That would be much funnier if the video had embedded. 🙁
@cloudiah:
Don’t worry, I clicked on the link and gal’d. (giggled a little)
Wait a minute … there’s something wrong with this statement … what is it?
Oh yeah! Stop-loss! Where the military won’t let you go when you’ve served your tour!
How do we have such a surplus of servicepersons when Uncle Sam has to force vets’ arms to re-up?
Now, this isn’t to refute that the military is downsizing. It may very well be — I’m no soldier. But just because it’s downsizing doesn’t mean we have too many soldiers, period. Maybe we have too many in an unnecessary MOS.
But you’re right about the unpopularity of the draft.
I just laughed so hard and loud that my wife, who was sitting outside with the door closed, heard me and came in to see what was so funny.
“But just because it’s downsizing doesn’t mean we have too many soldiers, period.”
The military is going for smaller, but smarter, stronger, faster. The numbers of soldiers grew because we were fighting two wars at the same time. Obviously the Iraq war is now over, so we have less soldiers in action. Before, soldiers were subjected to StopLoss, or some substandard soldiers were able to remain in the military, because troops were so desperately needed. Now we don’t need as many soldiers. The Army can afford to be picky now. That is why they are cracking down on soldiers with poor performance records and offering 15 year retirements rather than the usual 20. They want less soldiers!
http://youtu.be/iPfmsiGXCWY
Dear Mr. Zarat:
“So much anti-male hatred!”
They don’t hate males. Just you. Yes you. YOU, PERSONALLY, AS A HUMAN BEING. Not because you’re a male. Just because something about your personality is repulsive.
Fembot, ah see..I only recently learned about stop loss and now I learn they are retiring soldiers earlier in their careers.
Still, stop loss is a vile way to get around recruitment issues.
AntZ, get fucked. Better yet, learn to read, and also learn to realize that misandry is not a fucking thing, no matter how many times you goofballs say it is.
Elam really should get down off the cross, I’m sure we have better uses for the wood. I can’t beleive he got his idiots to pony up 5K. I hope he serves the MRM well with that cash. Suckers.
Is that the best that all of you can come up with? COLLECTIVELY?
The femi-fascist “teaching women to become dependent on men, while also hating men” women’s studies departents that “educated” you should give you your money back.
In fact, you deserve DOUBLE your money back, since you came out even dumber than you went in.
Oh, Antz, insults aren’t arguments you know. [pats Antz on head, goes back to listening to oral histories about Los Angeles in the 1940s]
Er…….. Did Zarat just say that CITATIONS and FACTS are mutually exclusive concepts, and that asking someone to provide CITATIONS for their FACTS is part of a feminist conspiracy?????
misandry is not a fucking thing
You’re wrong, misandry is a thing, and in our society it is somewhat endemic… in point of fact. I knew a woman who once said that hitting men was funny. Is that misandry? If it is, that one instance renders your statement void… of course, it’s a lot more than once instance, but just as a principle…
Is that the best that all of you can come up with? COLLECTIVELY?
I know, right? The airs they put on, you’d think they all graduated from Harvard Med, when in reality they just parrot the same sociological talking points from the ’50s over and over…
(BTW, Anthony, nice to see you again.)
Anthony Zarat, I think that you have not understood what male privilege refers to. You seem to be misunderstanding it to mean all men have all forms of privilege over all women. This is not what male privilege refers to. For instance, wealthy women have class privilege that is not enjoyed by poor men or poor women. You might find it beneficial to study the concept of intersectionality to better understand the conversations happening here.
While the combative style of your posts makes most people unwilling to help you understand these topics, I would be perfectly willing to help you if there is anything you do not understand.
The femi-fascist “teaching women to become dependent on men, while also hating men” women’s studies departents that “educated” you should give you your money back.
WTF are you talking about? You really live in a fantasy land, don’t you. Get off your ass and go outside and take a look at the real world. I was never taught to be dependent on men or hate them. I was taught to get an education and support myself, and hopefully marry a good man (and I did).
And who the hell on this site hates men? Just saying a thing doesn’t make it so.
It’s kind of amazing that Elam is still harping on men predominantly being in dangerous occupations.
Two words: Radium girls. That example is particularly nice because the guys in charge knew that shit was dangerous. It would be difficult to find a comparable situation with the genders reversed – i.e. with an upper class of well-informed, exclusively female workers keeping the lower-level exclusively male workers in the dark while providing absolutely nothing in the way of minimum safety equipment or procedures.
Antz you have been upgraded to troll book worthy material! Congrats XD
http://manboobz.forummotion.com/t893-antzcyclopedia#24006
Yep! You can’t make this shit up. It’s that sort of thing that makes this site so entertaining. (Well, that and the delicious feminazi gazpacho.)
with Antzy’s interest in sexbot technology, I’m surprised he hasn’t brought up robot soldiers. This is actually a thing (mind you soldiers is pushing it quite a bit) but they are developing technology to aid and hopefully replace human beings as soldiers.
For example this which is used to carry heavy equipment (it is a creepy looking thing but pretty damn impressive…yay robots!)
Antz on citations tl;dr: “Yeah, I get that a lot.”
And maybe there’s a reason for that, sweetie pie.
Marc Raibert of Boston Dymamics practically invented legged robots at CMU in the 1980’s. He is not messing around. Eventually his robots will be weaponized and able to run down absolutely anyone in virtually any terrain.
I, for one, welcome our new robot overlords.
Er…….. Did Zarat just say that CITATIONS and FACTS are mutually exclusive concepts
“Citations” are vulnerable to spin; “facts”, simply speaking, are not.
“There are lies, damned lies, and statistics”. -Mark Twain
AntZ, I’ll try explaining the women’s health care provisions of the Affordable Care Act again, but this time I’ll make it simpler.
1. Cis men and cis women have different reproductive body parts that require different types of medical care.
2. Pregnant people have different medical needs than people who aren’t pregnant.
3. Cis men do not get pregnant.
4. Many of the screenings offered to pregnant women are for the purpose of keeping the baby healthy.
5. Half of the babies that are born are male, and the other half are female.
6. Good prenatal care helps male babies just like it does female babies.
All of these points prove that good prenatal care is not misandry. It is absurd that I would even need to explain this to you.
I kind of love it when MRAs go on about how all;the poor menz have to do manual labor jobs so that lazy women can work in their PR firms in silky, silky office clothes.
NWO loves to talk about how much he wishes he could wear silky dresses, makeup and perfume. I’m always like, dude, go for it. We don’t judge around here.
I went to AVfM and read the whole article for myself because a) I was hoping you didn’t take anything out of context, and b) I actually couldn’t believe he would write this dreck.
Why. Oh, why did I? I’ve never appreciated those five minutes I once had than I do now.
Mr. Futrelle, you are a man of noble sort.