Paul Elam, head ranter at A Voice for Men, has a new video out called “You want privilege? You got it!” The thesis: if women really did have the so-called privileges that men have, they’d hate it and want men to take them all back. Because all of these so-called privileges are really giant burdens. Or, as Elam puts it, somewhat more melodramatically, these privileges have “begun to more resemble an anchor around your neck than the helm of a great ship that everyone tells you that you are captaining.”
Here’s the video.
Well, all right, that’s not really Paul Elam. But that little clip does capture pretty well the tone of his latest post, which is indeed about how male privilege is really a terrible burden.
I mean, this is his opener:
I swear by everything holy that the next time I hear some fembot caterwaul about “male privilege,” I am going to find something to break, turn it into shards, and drag the broken pieces across my chest just to distract me from the pain of their increasing stupidity. Just picture me like Martin Sheen, collapsed in a heap of bloody, tearful insanity on the floor of a cheap hotel in Saigon.
Heck, compared to that, Mr. McDuck’s reaction to the news about his “ice cream” was, if anything, rather restrained.
The rest of Elam’s post is, as is typical for him, a rather trite recitation of a number of standard Men’s Rights talking points about male “disposability” written in some of the most ridiculously overblown prose ever seen outside of an Ayn Rand novel.
Elam complains that he hasn’t seen much benefit from his privileges:
Mind you I still don’t know what that privilege is. One time when I was young and very poor I was late on my light bill. I showed the electric company my balls, but they cut my power off anyway. …
Yeah, as someone who’s also had his power cut off, I’m pretty sure they do that with everyone. I’m also pretty sure that no feminist has ever or will ever argue that male privilege means you won’t get your power cut off for nonpayment.
Here’s Elam addressing women as if they’ve traded place with men:
With your privilege comes the right to work on crab boats, drive trucks, work on electric lines, walk into burning buildings and sink into the bowels of the earth digging out coal and other things people find useful.
Apparently having greater occupational choices is scary and bad.
When a ship goes down, or any other life threatening disaster strikes, you have two choices. Be a real woman and die, or treat your life like it has value and have the world shit on you as a coward who refused to perish on cue. There is also the possibility of third option, either die from the disaster so that men can live, or have another woman blow a fucking hole in your face with a pistol because you tried to save yourself.
Yeah, I believe we may have addressed this earlier. Oh, but there’s more:
Like noticing the emperor has no clothes, it may hit you one day when you decide not to offer your seat to a man; when the stares at you from all around seem to come down people’s noses. …
You must learn not to say a word. Not to anyone else, not even to yourself. You must learn to see flames, coal dust, icy saltwater, death and sacrifice for the trappings of power that the world around you thinks them to be.
Says a dude typing out his manifestos on an expensive laptop he conned nagged his followers into buying for him.
And you must be willing to hang your head in shame over that power, even as the world chews you up, spits you out, and gets ready to take its turn with your daughter.
Elam’s rousing conclusion:
So, that is it, ladies. You want my privilege, it is yours. I will gladly hand it over to you this very minute. I am just waiting for you to meet the pre-requisites of disposibilty and an utter lack of self-value. I am waiting for you to woman up to the job, take off your fucking make up and be ready to bleed, blah blah blah look at me I’m mad!
I paraphrased a little at the end there. But, yes, the world champion at seeing male “disposability” everywhere did in fact misspell the word “disposability.” That was all him. And so, believe it or not, is the following:
I, like a Jew gone weary of being called a chosen one, am completely ready for anyone else, and in particular, you, to be chosen.
Personally, I have had about all the privilege I can stand.
Yep. He went there.
Also, I don’t know if you all knew this, but when women serve in the military these days it’s “like a day care camp for them.”
Also, not to pat myself on the back or anything, but my headline is much better than his. Maybe he should get me to write all the headlines on A Voice for Angry Duck Plutocrats Men.
Discuss.
I could hate on you a bit, if it makes him feel any better.
Data collection initiated! According to my computer, I have 26 minutes to teach reason and common sense to some delicate feminist flowers! Have no fear, I am in a good mood! I will be very polite and compassionate with your feelings!
Many boob brigadiers are upset because I mentioned the FACT that Obamacare structurally discriminates against men:
“.. metaphor and hyperbole ..” — James
“.. I think he might literally believe that ..” — Cliff Pervocracy
“.. nobody has noticed these things because they don’t .. actually exist ..” — captainbathrobe
Predictably, some were baffled and clueless, and began the tired citation drumroll (instead of thinking for themselves):
“.. Antz, how about a citation or two .. Proof, please ..” — FelixBC
“.. Prediction: Antsy’s only citation will be ..” — Tulgey Logger
Asking for citations is a feminist trade-mark. This is because of the vast “women’s studies” (what a joke) network that feminists set up (at taxpayer expense) to mass-produce deception, fraud, hypocricy, and insincerity of every kind. Naturally, the MRM prefers FACTS to meaningless feminist “citations.” So, ladies, here are the FACTS.
The new Obamacare institutions directly discriminate against men:
SEC. 229(A) “.. There is established within the Office of the Secretary, an Office on Womens Health .. ”
SEC. 310(A) “.. There is established within the Office of the Director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, an Office of Womens Health ..”
SEC. 1011(A) ” .. There is established within the Office of the Commissioner, an office to be known as the Office of Womens Health ..”
Obamacare also discriminates against men by introducing feminist man-hate into existing institutions:
SEC. 925 “.. There is established within the Office of the Director, an Office of Womens Health and Gender-Based Research ..”
SEC. 713.3 “.. FOOD AND DRUG ADMINISTRATION OFFICE OF WOMENS HEALTH ..”
SEC. 1011.B.4 “.. Office of Research on Womens Health of the National Institutes of Health ..”
These are just six EXAMPLES. There are 134 instances of anti-male discrimination in Obamacare.
Do you know how many 134 is? It is a lot! For example, if you had 134 eggs, you could not eat them all. You would need a strong MAN to CARRY them all!
Some feminists want to pretend like putting health care in the hands of their hate-filled sisters will not result in any injustice or discrimination:
“.. Free smoking cessation is offered for men too .. don’t be ridiculous ..” — Bee
“.. Mens reproductive health issues are already covered ..” — pillowinhell
“.. I always have to pay a copay for my birth control and visits to the gynecologis ..” — M Dubz
“.. Instead, the HPV vaccine protects men and women against deadly diseases such as cervical cancer ..” — cloudiah
Sadly, ladies, this is wishful thinking! Anti-male discrimination means every institutional recommendation to Obamacare over the past year has been related to women’s health. This includes FREE contraceptives, FREE tubal ligation, FREE smoking cessation, FREE breast health, FREE well woman visits, FREE cancer prevention for girls, and FREE treatment for STDs. NONE OF THESE TREATMENTS ARE OFFERED TO MEN OR BOYS.
Here are some women only provisions in the USPSTF list (required to be FREE OF CHARGE):
“BRCA screening, counseling about”
“Breast cancer preventive medication”
“Breast cancer screening”
“Cervical cancer screening”
“Chlamydial infection screening: non-pregnant women”
“Gonorrhea screening: women”
“Osteoporosis screening: women”
“Tobacco use counseling: pregnant women”
“Anemia screening: pregnant women”
“Bacteriuria screening: pregnant women”
“Breastfeeding counseling”
“Folic acid supplementation” — all women
“Hepatitis B screening: pregnant women”
“Rh incompatibility screening: first pregnancy visit”
“Rh incompatibility screening: 24-28 weeks gestation”
“Syphilis screening: pregnant women”
When feminists have no argument, they question the legitimacy of the opponent, or cry “raaaaaaap …” or “0.78 on the dollar!”
If I was a feminist, I would say “78 is less than 134!” and expect people to buy it .. then I would have a “citation!”
“.. What great inventions have YOU created MRAs ..” — Quackers
“.. this isn’t about ladies having a hissy fit over having to pay .. It’s about equal pay for equal work ..” — ostara321
And then, there were the majority of you, who not only have no critical thinking skills, but also no manners, producing reams of personal attacks:
“.. fuck you, Zarat .. liar and a disingenuous scumbag .. you ridiculous jackass .. how fucking dare you .. how anyone here tolerates such an insipid liar such as yourself .. you’re a bottom feeder .. toxic hatred ..” — Lady Zombie
“.. misogynist douchebag ..” — Tulgey Logger
“.. Fuck all these MRAs ..” — Quqackers
Data collection concluded! Time for me to go. Try to kick that dependency habit, ladies! You can do it! Go girl!
I kind of love it when MRAs go on about how all;the poor menz have to do manual labor jobs so that lazy women can work in their PR firms in silky, silky office clothes. Mostly, it’s because I’m a woman and a forestry labourer, and for some reason I’m not getting my vaginamoney free ride like I’m supposed to.
And anyone who thinks that pink-collar jobs aren’t physically demanding needs to spend some time as a cleaner or a healthcare worker.
Yeah, for a lot of people “don’t join the Army” is not an option. That doesn’t mean that stoploss is RIGHT.
@ Morchella
And anyone who says teaching and nursing are comfy air conditioned jobs needs to die. Seriously, I would like to put these MRAs in a room with 35 12 year olds and see how they do.
@pillowinhell
The prison industry is booming. It’s scary, not to mention expensive.
I suppose it’s too much to ask for Zarat to recognize his tiresome hypocrisy and total lack of self-awareness, so I’ll just keep laughing my ass off at his self-congratulatory bullshit.
Antz, honey, I don’t think you understand what citation means. Citations are so that you can show where your FACTS come from. For example, saying “Cats and dogs are actually the same species. Source: my ass” is probably not going to fly because my ass is not a biology expert.
Also, you are aware that men can get breast cancer as well, right?
@ Anthony Zarat
I was once told on The Spearhead that I have grey hair on my saggy tits. How is that for bad manners?
Ozymandias
I don’t think anyone would defend Stoploss today. It was a consequence of the Bush wars. George W Bush, who was elected twice, and almost destroyed our country. But I’m biased.
Apparently “citations” (scarequotes) refer to backing up your argument with evidence rather than pulling FACTS out of your ass, while FACTS are no-context-given quotations that are presented as made in a vacuum.
yeesh…
And take away his persecution complex? I’m sure he would rather die!
Where the fuck did 26 minutes come from?
I mean, the rest of it makes a certain kind of sense. It’s exactly the sort of thing you’d write if you thought that your interlocuters were so obviously risible that they could be refuted by quoting them, and that condescension was witty, and that you were very much cleverer than anyone else present.
But 26 minutes? What? Why?
He’s on a 26 minute break from World of Warcraft.
[citation needed] is misandry!
Self identified MRA with info about the draft..are you talking about me? If you are, you’re entirely mistaken. Unless there’s an unholy alliance between MRA’s and feminists.
Come to think of it…that would make for one seriously out there sci fi flick…or horror show.
I did this once before, but since Antz can’t read… [Antz, I know you’re fluent in Portuguese, so let me know if you need these translated!]
Complete list of USPSTF A and B Recommendations (required, no-cost coverage under Affordable Care Act) for MEN/BOYS or in which MEN/BOYS* are included:
* Abdominal aortic aneurysm screening: men
* Alcohol misuse counseling: adults
* Aspirin to prevent CVD: men
* Blood pressure screening: adults
* Cholesterol abnormalities screening: men 35 and older
* Cholesterol abnormalities screening: men younger than 35
* Colorectal cancer screening: adults
* Dental caries chemoprevention: preschool children
* Depression screening: adolescents & adults
* Diabetes screening: adults
* Gonorrhea prophylactic medication: newborns
* Healthy diet counseling: patients with risk factors
* Hearing loss screening: newborns
* Hemoglobinopathies screening: newborns
* HIV screening: adolescents and adults
* Hypothyrodism screening: newborns
* Iron supplementation: children
* Obesity screening and counseling: adults & children
* PKU screening: newborns
* STIs counseling: sexually active adolescents, and adults
* Tobacco use counseling and interventions: non-pregnant adults
* Syphilis screening: non-pregnant persons
* Visual acuity screening: children
Source.
Antz, I promise, when cis men can get pregnant, I will fight to have those pregnancy provisions cover cis men too!
*Cis MEN/BOYS only here; ACA likely lacks any consideration of the health needs of trans people, but as LBT/Rogan established with Antz earlier the MRM is not interested in fighting for trans men.
@ Zarat
You and the rest of your redneck, imbecile MRA pals are incapable or unwilling to understand that insulting MRAs is to “hating men” what insulting the Ku Klux Klan is to hating white people.
Is it really that hard to understand?
So, Tugley Logger predicted that AntZ’s “citation” would be searching for the word “men” in the obamacare bill. This is the “prediction:” quote that AntZ included. And what was AntZ’s argument?
Searching for the word “woman” in the obamacare bill.
*facepalm*
AntZ, let me lay some rationality on you. An institution is going about its business. One day, it decides “you know what? We need to create a department to focus on women’s issues.” Now what does this say about this institution?
It says that, forever reason, they felt like women’s issues weren’t being addressed.
Of course, you and your MRA buddies don’t understand that actions aren’t made in a vaccum, and that history exists. If an organization or thing has the word “woman” in the title, obviously it must be anti-man! Which means… something with the word “man” or “men” must obviously be anti-woman! Which, by your argument means that the MRM must be misogynist!
Logic!
Antz: Wow. I’m… gobsmacked at the depth and extent of you ignorance. You see, there are these things called FACTS. Facts can be proven by providing evidence that supports it. To use an above example: You can say that cats and dogs are the same species all you want, but you can’t claim it as a fact because there’s no evidence to back it up, whereas there’s a shit ton of evidence to back up a claim that they are actually two species.
Claiming that creating ‘women’s health/safety/whatever’ offices is misandrist is not a fact – there is very little evidence (that I’ve seen) to back such a claim up. There is a great deal of evidence, though, that shows that men’s health has been the default yardstick against which ALL people are measured. Since male and female bodies differ greatly in some respects, this is not helpful when it comes to assessing women’s health. The offices are a response to a need – to ensure that women and men are getting the same standard of care..
@Quackers
“This. SO MUCH. If you mention that the majority of crime is committed by men or that most historical tyrants are male or..dare I say it…the majority of rapists are of the male sex and they throw a shit fit and cry misandry, yet they have no problem constantly reminding us that men built everything, created everything, are the majority of scientists, engineers, etc (while somehow thinking this rubs off on them just because they share the same sex)”
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Of course most crimes are committed by men. Those with the least privilege, or options, have the least choices for survival. Private charities probably run around 99 to 1 in favor of women, State charities are not much better, maybe 9 to 1 in women’s favor. Women can also trade sex for food and shelter. Having personally lived in staggering poverty I knew my options. No State or private charities for me, no women were willing to trade sex to a vagrant for food and shelter. It was buglary or starvation, I chose buglary.
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All rapists are men since women aren’t biologically equipped to rape. Rape is a man acting like an animal in heat.
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Men did, and still do create and build everything. Since I have designed prototype machinery nothing needs to rub off on me.
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@Shaenon
“Yeah, doesn’t happen. I have, however, seen an elderly woman give up her seat for a pregnant woman. And then an able-bodied man give up his seat for the elderly woman. That was pure class all around.”
Have you ever seen a dirty man who looks beat to the core being offered a seat by a woman? The buses and subways team with such men. That, is what doesn’t happen. Probably happened in the old days when women actually showed a bit of that empathy they claim to currently have the market cornered on. I’m sure there’s a study you can find to prove women’s superior empathy.
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@ostara321
“People have likened access to BC to access to male enhancement medicines like viagra, but that’s not really a good comparison because viagra isn’t preventative medicine. Birth control is.”
Last I heard birth wasn’t a disease in need of a cure. Personally, I’d laugh my ass off if pregnancy was permanently cured. A fitting end.
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@Quackers
“I’m so sick of them pretending like they believe women are just as capable and that men will welcome them with open arms in these jobs and not at all give them a hard time. It’s like how they complain women don’t do these jobs yet screech about the quotas in firefighting and about how weak and incapable women are and will get everyone killed.”
We are all forced to pretend women are just as physically and intellectually capable as men. To utter words to the contrary at work or school is grounds for dismissal. Women recieve quota’s in education and employment for a reason.
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There is no area in modern day society where women aren’t privileged.
Twice as much on health.
Laws for quota’s. Big Daddy employs 22 million and will only purchase from companies who comply. 22 million makes Big Daddy the largest consumer. Wanna get a Guv contract to supply tables and chairs? You better damn well meet the quota. Go to any factory and you’ll see the men laboring and the women in the office. That’s quota’s. Men forced to labor while middle management is an all women’s club.
Are you protected equally under law from DV as men? VAWA privileges you above men.
Are you able to go to college? Guarunteed slots and scolarships for wpmen only privileges you above men.
Wanna start a business? There’s plenty of help, grants, write offs, ect, for women only to privilege you above men.
Commit the same crime as a man? Don’t fret, you’ve got a get out of jail free card.
The MSM is all about the perfection of women and the belttlement of men, privileging women above men.
What area of modern day society aren’t women privileged above men? Even with every possible privilege above men it’s not enough. Women demand to be talked about as if they’re goddesses as well..
Ha ha, I once got into an argument on Youtube with a MRA* which ended with him calling me a “jackbooted member of the Feminazi gazpacho.” I like to think that was exactly what he meant to type, but he may have been autocorrected. Still, funny.
*This was before I realized that arguing on Youtube was a waste of time, period, and that arguing with MRAs was also a waste of time but sometimes amusing in the right company. 🙂
@pillowinhell
“Self identified MRA with info about the draft..are you talking about me? If you are, you’re entirely mistaken. Unless there’s an unholy alliance between MRA’s and feminists.
Come to think of it…that would make for one seriously out there sci fi flick…or horror show.”
I’m confused. Who are you talking to?
Let’s look at some of the health care for women that AntZ thinks is MISANDRIC!!!
“BRCA screening, counseling about”
These genetic tests can help women find out their risk of breast and ovarian cancer if there is a family history of them.
“Breast cancer preventive medication”
Men get breast cancer, too. I’ll state the obvious that it’s good to prevent breast cancer.
“Cervical cancer screening”
This is not misandry. Cis men do not have a cervix so they don’t need a cervical cancer screening. It’s important to screen for the early signs of cervical cancer for women and trans men, though, because it can be treated easily in the beginning stage before it gets dangerous.
“Chlamydial infection screening: non-pregnant women”
and
“Gonorrhea screening: women”
Just because women get screenings for STI’s does not mean men don’t.
“Osteoporosis screening: women”
Women, especially petite women, can suffer from injuries if they have untreated osteoporosis. This is an important screening.
“Tobacco use counseling: pregnant women”
If pregnant women have support, they are more likely to be successful at quitting smoking. That helps ensure a healthier pregnancy for both the mom and baby.
“Anemia screening: pregnant women”
Anemia can cause a baby’s growth to be too slow. However, it’s easy to screen for and treat with iron supplements.
“Bacteriuria screening: pregnant women”
Group B strep is harmless on an adult woman’s body, but it can pass to the baby during childbirth and cause a life threatening infection. The screening can let doctors know to give the mother IV antibiotics in labor to prevent that.
“Breastfeeding counseling”
Usually it’s mothers that breastfeed, although men can do it, too. Anyway, supporting breastfeeding saves the government money on formula and it makes babies healthier.
“Folic acid supplementation” — all women
Folic acid prevenst spina bifida for babies.
“Hepatitis B screening: pregnant women”
This needs to be caught so that the baby can be tested and treated for Hep B.
“Rh incompatibility screening: first pregnancy visit” and for 28 week visit”
I am Rh negative but both of my babies were Rh positive. This simple test and some Rh shots prevented my body from rejecting my babies’ blood as invaders, which would cause a miscarriage.
“Syphilis screening: pregnant women”
This needs to be tested so that the mother can be treated and not pass the disease to the baby.
“Feminazi gazpacho sounds delicious!
Call on me! Call on me!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nd4VkBcG2PQ
It means our hate-filled, but also exceedingly delicate, sisters have taken over the institution. Right?
/sarcasm