W.F. Price, the man behind The Spearhead and a tireless champion of Men’s Rights, has in his latest post taken on one of the gravest injustices facing American men today. I speak, of course, of fat ladies.
Traveling in Europe, Price has noticed that people tend to be skinnier there than in the US, which naturally has led him to think some deep thoughts about fat ladies in America and how disgusting he finds them.
So-called BBWs in the US are not really curvy — they are rotund.
I really can’t stress enough the extent to which obesity has ruined American women’s attractiveness. Feminists blather on and on about how women should be “comfortable” with their bodies, but the truth is that many American women would be viewed as abominations in most of the world.
Those damn feminists, making ladies fat!
If you were to try to come up with a parallel for men, I suppose it would be something like having toothless, homeless alcoholic men say that they should be proud of themselves and feel attractive.
Actually, if you were to find a parallel for men, it would also be, er, fatness. Obesity rates for men and women in the US are roughly the same, with women having only a slight lead: according to a recent CDC survey, 35.5 percent of adult women and 32.2 percent of adult men are “obese,” by current standards. Never mind that these standards are a bit, well, off, in that they classify the overwhelming majority of Americans as overweight or obese. Never mind that more than half of Europeans are also classified as overweight or obese according to these standards. And never mind that the fat shaming shit we hear every day in the media and on the internet is basically a bunch of bull.
Because Price thinks that fat ladies are gross:
Feminists are really that far out there. They are literally delusional by global standards. No normal man in the rest of the world finds obese American women attractive. Sure, they may be able to find some skinny guy from a third world country who will pretend to love them to get a green card, but any self-respecting man will give them a very wide berth.
Ho ho! Wide berth! I get it.
Naturally Price was hailed in the comments for his brave stance. According to dragnet,
The abomination that is the average American woman in flyover country constitutes nothing less than a full-scale loathing of male sexuality.
Andrew S., for his part, admits that
I always had a thing for cute heavy girls.
But he still thinks they’re stuck-up bitches:
Being in the midwest they are a dime a dozen. But since there aren’t a lot of attractive in shape or thin women in this part of the country, and most of the decent looking women have some meat on there bones, well, it was hard to stomach how women who pretty much anywhere else in the world would have been ignored acted like such perfect bitches.
Seriously, the “cute heavy girls” that Andrew prefers need to learn to properly hate themselves for being fat fatties. Maybe that way they’ll be more willing to put up with all this MRA bullshit.
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Yes, this post contains
and high fat content. Because I’m fat, get it?
Feminist Narnia? You must mean Canada! Not.
I only seem to get penis updates when I’ve actually “dressed up”. I don’t wear make up or jewelry and I tend to wear jeans and t shirts simply because I don’t want unsolicited comments from the ovens and apartments I scrub..mno wait.. I don’t want to ruin my nicer clothes. I don’t dye my hair and I don’t style it either. In short, I don’t come across as feminine and I’m told that when I’m walking down the street I wear a look that could strip varnish from furniture. That and my manly walk. Which means I’m not in heels and its a brisk pace. I’m told I’m attractive, but I guess random men would rather not tell me about it. Geez, I am the feminazi stereotype!!
Personally, I had enough penis updates as an early teenager. I really don’t care to hear any more.
This may also be a personality and circle of friends thing. Ozy and I are both feminist enough that irl it’s probably quite obvious that an unsolicited penis update would be about as welcome as a cockroach in a kitchen, and the circle of friends that we choose for ourselves presumably reflects those preferences. Plus I live in California, and workplace harrassment regulations are fairly strict here, so it’s a stupid man indeed who does that at work.
In the UK, on the other hand, I heard that kind of crap all the time.
I suffered from a rather unfortunate case of don’t-worry-I’m-one-of-the-cool-chicks-itis in high school. I got better. However, it took me a few years to either change the patterns of interaction that I’d set up with some of my friends back then, or abandon lost-cause friendships entirely, so I was still hearing some things like this in my early Uni days. Pretty much all of the UPUs I get now are from strangers.
@ Viscaria
It’s a common affliction among young women, and based on women I know who’re in their early-mid twenties now the pressure to be one of the cool chicks and not call men out on their shitty behavior seems to have actually increased in some ways. The only case in the last few years that I can remember a dude pulling that “men don’t really like X so you don’t need to do it” unsolicited comment thing, he was in his early twenties (and an intern – seriously dude, you’re going to sass one of the editors?).
Yeah, what is up with the block quotes? I SWEAR I did the tags correctly in my previous comment. (Although the power-made whore instead of power-mad is totally a typo.)
An acquaintance has a line he’s famous for: “If it was easy, then women and [racial epithet] would do it.” What a douche he is.
I used to have hair long enough to sit on, and it actually seemed like less work than short hair. I only had to wash it every couple of days, and I only had to braid it. No shampooing, gelling, styling every damn morning. It did take a while to comb after washing, but I did it during my commute (on a bus), so no big. Oddly, when I got it cut off at my shoulders, most people didn’t notice. The ones who did were old men (I was around 23, they were my dad’s age) that I barely knew.
Unimaginative: I have very short hair and it’s no work at all, mostly because I just let it flop around the place as it likes. 😛
I think this is right thread:
There once was a man who was angry
So much that he gave himself gangrene
But he was a twit,
and behaved like a shit,
because he couldn’t be sanguine
Speaking as someone with really unusually long hair, I have heard a LOT of UPUs over the years from guys who want to let me know that all guys think that having hair that falls to halfway down my thighs is weird and unappealing, but even more UPUs from guys who want to let me know that all guys really, really, really want to fuck girls with really long hair. All guys should really make up their minds already!
(Of the two, honestly, I prefer the guys who go out of their way to let me know their penis doesn’t like my hair, since they at least usually go away after sharing their brilliant phallic insight, while the other dudes are far too prone to hang around creepily trying to touch my hair even after I explicitly tell them to stop. Dudes, I get that you are long-hair fetishists and that’s very nice for you, but my hair is not here to be your personal masturbatory aid. Ick.)
OK.
NOW:I’d think loyalty, the opposite of indiscriminate fucking would be something worth striving for.
The two are not incompatible. There is more in heaven and earth than is dreamt of in your philosophy.
pillowinhell: Actually, some of this is being talked about by a vet. He says the military is leary of having women on the front lines because men are conditioned to save women. Which means some men will needlessly risk their lives. And some may do it because they don’t want what society will do to them. I think for the soldiers, its the social conditioning they worry about most.
When did he get out?
I say this because I did a career, and I watched a lot of change. It’s not that there aren’t guys who think that way, but the number of them has dropped to almost neglible numbers since 2003. When Micheal Coren wrote a newspaper column saying much the same as your friend, this was my reply:
Michael Coren is a clueless, dickless, worthless fuck
Read the comments, a lot of them are by male soldiers/vets.
The usual refrain of the reactionary types is to complain that women can’t meet the physical requirements. But, with the exception of the 7ID, the 10MD, and the SF types, humping 60 lbs for day after day is pretty much a dead letter. The US Army is mechanised, and pretty much anyone can ruck up and hump it for a couple of miles with a combat pack (30-50 lbs).
And when you’re need deep in shit and people are trying to kill you… tits are not on your mind. If Wong, or Nelson, or Zawacki had been hit, I’d have been affected. I’d have been just as affected if it had been McKinnon, or Brown, or Rosales, or Britten.
The only one I was likely to lose it over, was a male. I’ve spent days in convoy, nothing to piss in but bottles, and taking a shit required a shovel. We were a mixed unit. We coped. I had one female troop who could piss in a bottle while we were moving.
Is combat physically demanding? Yes. It more mentally/emotionally demanding and I didn’t see any greater percentage of women who were suffering mentally than I did men.
I know women who were in firefights. They did just fine. They’ve been doing it long enough that the consensus is pretty much changed. Word gets around; I can’t think of anyone who was in theater who hasn’t met/heard about, women who did fine when bullets were flying.
Gillian’s comment , it’s that the public is less prepared to deal with dead female soldiers than it is to deal with dead male soldiers. hits more of it.
If Congress didn’t forbid it, there would probably have been more complete integration by now. But that column I referred to is the reason why. Whinging idiots don’t want women, “coarsened” by killing people. It would make them ponder that women are not that different from men.
You wouldn’t think the military would worry too much about what people are ‘conditioned’ to do. Most people are ‘conditioned’ not to kill other people, but the military find a way around that, don’t they?
Pecunium thank you. Apparently the vet heard that the military won’t take women lest men die from a general. Of course, this guy starts out with women soldiers stating they expected the men to protect them, one woman had an unloaded weapon desPite orders and another was a slut. Therefore he wouldn’t trust a woman in combat. I asked what kind of military the States run that there’s such poor discipline. Matter dropped. And on to the “men can’t let women die or they’ll be punished” but women need to give up privilege argument. I also noted that until women are on the front lines, we won’t be seen as full contributing members and men will continue to resent us for having it easy.
Magpie, my thoughts exactly.
I’m still waiting for them to come up with an evacuation plan for the Titanic. One guy said oh its easy don’t order women and children first. At the same time, men will feel compelled to lay down their lives even for trained female soldiers. Welp, if highly trained and disciplined troops can’t work past this social conditioning, why would ordinary civilian men magically do so?
My thoughts exactly, too.
@ithilania- That is some fascinating stuff! I wanted to use examples of professions that are transitioning in the modern day, but yeah, it’s not exactly a new phenomenon.
@Owlyslave- Way to prove my point my claiming that any professions that are now female dominated are utterly backwards. Oh, and it’s spelled “ritalin.” You’re welcome, sweetheart.
Pecunium, he mentioned being in Iraq I think.
Also, your outrage towards Coren was well in line. Jesus christ! His little fantasy with knives and clubs..first thing I thought was “I’m sure her gun will even things up nicely”
I just hope Trooper Blais’ family didn’t read that. Or come across anything remotely like that bullshit. In a way, its a backhanded, conniving way to punish her family as well for not keeping their delicate flower in line.
@Crumbelievable Youtube has been overrun. I made a video about MRAs and was dogpiled with 400 comments within a day, and I was expected to answer every one of those comments with a well thought out debate (in a very short amount of characters) or else I’d “lose.” One guy had the nerve to say I’d run away with my tail tucked between my legs because I hadn’t answered his comment in the three hours after he’d posted it, because, you know, going to class is running away scared. I was berated, called an idiot, called fat and ugly, and was given these blanket statements that I was illogical and using straw man arguments with no direct references to which points were those things and why. I was also told that I was just imagining my personal experiences with sexual harassment, that all sorts of well documented, common occurances do not occur, given one off reports as examples of deeply ingrained misandry in our culture, and told 1. I could not get a boyfriend, 2. I must be a horrible girlfriend (talked about me “harping”), 3. they would never date a girl like me. They basically tried to shame me by telling me they wouldn’t date me, not realizing that I would never want to date any of them, so I’m glad I turned them off.
Youtube is a freaking MRA playground. They have nothing better to do than bombard dissenting opinions with hatred and sexism. I was very turned off and just decided to ignore the rest of the comments because nothing productive was coming of it.
As for the talk of men and women in the same field. Aye aye aye. I am in film/media, and let me tell you, women get the “woman jobs” nine times out of ten. Office work, set decorator, makeup, script supervisor, casting. I rarely see women operating the cameras. It’s really off-putting. When you show up, fresh faced, on your first PA gig. The male PAs get assigned to assist the camera department, the gaffers and grips. The women get sent on prop runs, get stuck trying to find extras last minute, etc. It operates in a really sexist fashion. And I can’t count the amount of times I’ve been hit on with the line that the guy is gonna hook me up with another gig, only for him to completely drop the subject when the discussion of my having a boyfriend at the time came up. I count on women to get me jobs because, despite me being helpful, supportive, and good at what I do, I am forgotten by the men who only think of each other. This isn’t just me either, I hear the same story from almost every woman I talk to. Oh, and when women do land the more powerful positions they are seen as bitches when they are assertive. I have seen men in powerful positions act like complete asses without a word of dissent, but the second a female DP says what she needs her assistants to do she’s every sexist term for jerk in the book.
That’s assuming that loyalty and casual sex are mutally exclusive. You make the assumption that sex has to be about love, and one cannot have sex with someone they don’t love. You also assume that one cannot love multiple people. You want to restrict everyone to your very specific set of morals and principles instead of accepting that all people function differently. Some can love, and maintain healthy relationships with multiple people at once, others can only focus on one person at a time. Who are you to impose your morals which do not work for everyone on everyone? As long as everyone is completely honest about their intentions, using protection, getting regularly tested, and gaining consent from their partners to maintain this lifestyle, who are you to tell them what they’re doing is wrong? If you want someone who is exclusively fucking you, that’s your business and you have that right to have that standard for your partner. But if someone else is maintaining an open relationship that works for them and their partners, what business is it of yours?
When I had facial piercings men made it their mission to shame me out of wearing them. “You’d be so pretty if it wasn’t for that metal in your face.”
Thanks, creepy old customer, because I got these to impress you specifically and now I know that I need to remove them so that your dick can stay hard. Ugh.
Manboobz: Does it seem like whenever women enter a previously high-status career field, sexist people suddenly start claiming it’s easy, undemanding, and worthless? Or is that a paranoid thought?
NWO: Whenever women enter a high-status career field, it becomes easy, undemanding, and worthless! Also, girls suck at everything!
Manboobz: …Okay, then.
I just ended up deleting my account. Even though I stopped communciating with that specific groups of sick fucks, I`ll still get messages from some other misogynist fuck for weeks to come. I`ll check my email as is my daily habit and then be pissed off for the whole day thinking about these creeps.
It`s not enough to avoid MRAs though. One time I made an innocuous post about some band I like and one Youtuber told me thatI deserved to be raped by n**rs。Youtube is a perfect home for the MRM.
Me fail blockquotes? That`s unpossible.
And what’s this then about feminists using shaming tactics? you know what I notice about MRAs? they embody every negative trait they asign to feminists. Ideological, overly emotional, biased, bigoted haters of the opposite sex.
Maybe we ought to create a Catalog of MRA Shaming Tactics. Complete with every childish insult and straw feminist you mentioned and more!
Call her ugly? Code Yellow.
Called her fat? Code Brown (because brown is the color of chocolate lolz)
Called her a lesbian? Code Green.
Said she’d never get a husband/boyfriend? Code Red.
Called her a cat lady? Code Blue.
Called her a slut? Code Pink.
Called her irrational? Code Copper.
Called her feminazi? Code Black.
Called her hairy? Code Orange.
Called her misandrist? Code Silver.
And for the male feminist specifically:
Called him a mangina? Code Teal.
Called him a beta? Code Magenta.
Called him gay? Code Grey.
Called him a pussy beggar? Code Beige.
You know it doesn’t surprise me that a cesspool like YouTube is where MRA parasites flourish. That site attracts some of the stupidest assholes out there and the few people who try to argue rationally or in good faith get shot down with insults and threats.
>Actually, some of this is being talked about by a vet. He says the military is leary of having women on the front lines because men are conditioned to save women.
From what I remember, right now the brass is too concerned about soldiers raping other soldiers in the field to allow mixed-gendered combat teams. Soldiers getting shot to save their fellow soldiers used to be a normal part of military romanticism anyway and we see it happening all the time in action movies even these days.
NWO, darling, as soon as I get the funds together I will have a delightful collection of cocks of all shapes and sizes.
And, um, I’m pretty sure dudes can go to career classes too.
well at least they’re being open about beating us now: http://www.inmalafide.com/blog/2012/05/01/femininity-is-masochistic-masculinity-is-sadistic/
and they wonder why SPLC is watching them
Abusers lobby. Utter filth they are.