W.F. Price, the man behind The Spearhead and a tireless champion of Men’s Rights, has in his latest post taken on one of the gravest injustices facing American men today. I speak, of course, of fat ladies.
Traveling in Europe, Price has noticed that people tend to be skinnier there than in the US, which naturally has led him to think some deep thoughts about fat ladies in America and how disgusting he finds them.
So-called BBWs in the US are not really curvy — they are rotund.
I really can’t stress enough the extent to which obesity has ruined American women’s attractiveness. Feminists blather on and on about how women should be “comfortable” with their bodies, but the truth is that many American women would be viewed as abominations in most of the world.
Those damn feminists, making ladies fat!
If you were to try to come up with a parallel for men, I suppose it would be something like having toothless, homeless alcoholic men say that they should be proud of themselves and feel attractive.
Actually, if you were to find a parallel for men, it would also be, er, fatness. Obesity rates for men and women in the US are roughly the same, with women having only a slight lead: according to a recent CDC survey, 35.5 percent of adult women and 32.2 percent of adult men are “obese,” by current standards. Never mind that these standards are a bit, well, off, in that they classify the overwhelming majority of Americans as overweight or obese. Never mind that more than half of Europeans are also classified as overweight or obese according to these standards. And never mind that the fat shaming shit we hear every day in the media and on the internet is basically a bunch of bull.
Because Price thinks that fat ladies are gross:
Feminists are really that far out there. They are literally delusional by global standards. No normal man in the rest of the world finds obese American women attractive. Sure, they may be able to find some skinny guy from a third world country who will pretend to love them to get a green card, but any self-respecting man will give them a very wide berth.
Ho ho! Wide berth! I get it.
Naturally Price was hailed in the comments for his brave stance. According to dragnet,
The abomination that is the average American woman in flyover country constitutes nothing less than a full-scale loathing of male sexuality.
Andrew S., for his part, admits that
I always had a thing for cute heavy girls.
But he still thinks they’re stuck-up bitches:
Being in the midwest they are a dime a dozen. But since there aren’t a lot of attractive in shape or thin women in this part of the country, and most of the decent looking women have some meat on there bones, well, it was hard to stomach how women who pretty much anywhere else in the world would have been ignored acted like such perfect bitches.
Seriously, the “cute heavy girls” that Andrew prefers need to learn to properly hate themselves for being fat fatties. Maybe that way they’ll be more willing to put up with all this MRA bullshit.
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Yes, this post contains
and high fat content. Because I’m fat, get it?
Um..binder? I’m envisioning some one wearing school supplies. I feel fairly confident that this is not the image intended….
While that tells you a great deal about how the commenter thinks, it tells you nothing about how soldiers think. People do not risk their lives to save other people because society will punish them if they don’t. They risk their lives for other people because they value those peoples lives.
This fixation on punishment that MRAs express on almost every subject displays a world view that hav very few contact points with reality.
Blockquote fail… The second para is my response to the first.
Actually, some of this is being talked about by a vet. He says the military is leary of having women on the front lines because men are conditioned to save women. Which means some men will needlessly risk their lives. And some may do it because they don’t want what society will do to them. I think for the soldiers, its the social conditioning they worry about most.
Pillow: Breast binder; I’m female-assigned and trans, so I often wear a breast binder to flatten my chest. They’re hard as a fourteen-year-old in a strip club to put on, though.
re ostara321:
(God I still don’t dare blockquote badly, go figure)
“Tangentially, I’ve long noodled on the idea that perhaps part of the animosity a lot of women tend to face when trying to enter male-dominated fields or break through the higher ranks of other fields that tend to be controlled by men higher up, is in part because some (insecure) guys have this gut reaction that having more ladies around means their super important boys work somehow becomes less important. Cause I mean, if a woman can do it, how hard can it be, amirite?”
I can attest to this, in a very limited, anecdotal fashion – when I was working as an (unpaid) labourer for a year, there was a period of 3-4 months at the end of my stint when a bloke who also worked there kept complaining that, there they all were, being Manly Men, doing Manly Work, in the hills and woods, All Men Together, and yet here I was “ruining it all for them” by being there and doing so as well. He kept saying it right in front of me. A LOT. Despite the fact that, at this point, I had been working there for nine months and he had been there for around three whole weeks. (Also, nobody else had had a problem? or, maybe they did, but they weren’t as crass? Anyway, I worried that they did, and though that is in my head, not his, it totally ruined the last stint for me.)
I’m not saying that it’s therefore, for Def, where they *all* come from, but since he kept throwing off other misogynistic sentiments like a misfiring Catherine wheel (“I worship women because they are the only way of producing life!” “women are sluts by sleeping with too many people when it’s the same number as a given man has slept with because only women an have other people’s genitals INSIDE THEM!” “the greatest gift I can give my future wife is CLEAN SPERM* so I will abstain for drugs and alcohol for two years before procreating!” – but he got the hump when I suggested that abstaining afterwards, during her pregnancy, to show support, might also be cool)… methinks me makes very definite woman-hating material. Or is, at least, a GIGANTIC pillock.
*okay maybe not the last one so much, but it was definitely a bit odd, imho.
(Oh erm, also, this was announced the day after he got really irate at discovering I could lift just as much as he could. Of course I could, I’d been doing this job for nearly a year, he’d been working in a call centre back in Blighty…?)
He says the military is leary of having women on the front lines because men are conditioned to save women.
Yeah, no, wouldn’t that be lovely? and wouldn’t that mean there would be so much less DV and rape? somehow, it seems that men are conditioned to save women only when it’s convenient for yet another restriction on opportunities for women.
Even here in Israel, where we’ve gone back-and-forth on this (women fought side-by-side with men during the War of Independence, a measly 64 years ago – meaning we still have men and women who fought together around, my grandfather being one of them) the reason is not that men are “conditioned to protect women” and will do so under the pressures of battle (MEN are conditioned to protect each other during combat, as previously mentioned), it’s that the public is less prepared to deal with dead female soldiers than it is to deal with dead male soldiers.
We don’t even hear a lot of the “you’ll get raped if you’re captured” bullshit around here – again, since we have a not insignificant number of men who returned from captivity (my former CO among them. He did 8 months in a Syrian prison in ’73 after his Phantom was shot down) we know that men can be raped just as easily as women.
Nope. It’s all about the “CAN they do it” and “how will the public deal with it” and these days, mostly just laziness about the logistics – it’s harder to rebuild all your training and combat infrastructure for two sexes that are supposed to be segregated (doesn’t work, btw… there are few coed combat units, and the boys and girls there fuck like bunnies).
If my chub has the ability to keep MRA misogynists far away from me AND makes them miserable then that’s a freaking win right there!
*eats her cookies and laughs maniacally*
@Dee
“Disclaimer: in a perfect world everyone would be able to fuck indiscriminately if they so chose, and this we should strive for.”
I’d think loyalty, the opposite of indiscriminate fucking would be something worth striving for.
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@ostara321
“Tangentially, I’ve long noodled on the idea that perhaps part of the animosity a lot of women tend to face when trying to enter male-dominated fields or break through the higher ranks of other fields that tend to be controlled by men higher up, is in part because some (insecure) guys have this gut reaction that having more ladies around means their super important boys work somehow becomes less important. Cause I mean, if a woman can do it, how hard can it be, amirite?”
(insecure) guys? Sounds like shaming and manipulation to place women in positions of high employment they didn’t earn. Isn’t the big fiasco recently about no women being on the board on facebook? The excuse being women use facebook. Women want what men earn. The animosity will only grow as long as quota’s exist. Wanna a nice cushy job in middle management, or a made up position to meet a quota? The requirement is being a woman.
Didn’t like two million women try to sue walmart, and their at it again because they lost? Plus walmart has dropped several million or so to teach women to negotiate better. Quota’s for every damn thing in life, plus encouragement classes, negotiation classes, classes for everything. Men never got any of that. Try and take any of those entitlements away and it’s called the war on women.
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@M Dubz
“That’s a really interesting point re: women breaking into male-dominated fields. I have heard and seen certain high status careers (biology, family medicine, and the clergy (for religious denominations that ordain women) are the three that immediately come to mind) become less high status as they become female dominated.”
I believe it’s called ghettoized after it becomes female dominated. Teaching for instance. We can barely compete with third world countries these days, although hatred of all things masculine or male is thoroughly covered. Psychology is also well on it’s way to becoming an all girls club. We no longer try to help anyone, we either tolerate, accept and validate, or pass out the ridilin.
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@ozymandias42
“Pillow: Breast binder; I’m female-assigned and trans, so I often wear a breast binder to flatten my chest.”
This is priceless! Let me know when your stem and berries grow in!
@ Viscaria
The dresses = making an effort thing! It’s so stupid. Like you, I wear dresses when I’m too lazy to think about whether things match. Also, sweater dresses are comfy and warm. In the winter I wear them with knee boots and tights because a. my bed is warm and I want to stay in it for as long as possible, and a sweater dress and tights takes about 5 seconds to put on, and b. if it’s raining dress/boots allows me to keep my feet and legs dry, and not have to spend the rest of the day sitting around in pants that are wet at the hem, which feels disgusting and tends to lead to getting sick.
@Cassandra:
By which you mean, because dudes dig it, amirite??!?punctuation!?
This whole conversation is reminding me of an old friend of mine. I would sometimes comment on another woman’s appearance in some way, like “Oh, I just love her long hair. I would never have the patience to grow mine that long,” to which he would quellingly reply, “You know, guys don’t actually like that.” Oh really? First: pray, when was it you we’re declared the Arbiter of All Men’s Likes and Dislikes? Second: I do not base every decision on what guys like. Nor, presumably, does long-haired girl.
This was before I realized I was bi. He doesn’t do this much any more. Maybe now that he knows I’m attracted to women, I’m allowed to ex
…express* thoughts about how they look. Damn you, Post Comment button.
*offers to trade Quackers Snickers for said cookies*
@ Viscaria
I like to call statements like that Unsolicited Penis Updates. Thank you, kind sir, for informing me about how your penis feels about long hair. I will surely take that under advisement.
What? You need special permission by sexual orientation to notice people of your own gender are attractive? And as a long haired woman (grown it past my butt at one point) there are plenty of men who like long hair.
Its not the patience in growing it. Its the patience in caring for hair that long. Brushing takes 15 mins provided the tangles aren’t too bad
About dresses-business dresses are a lot easier than pants, sleeveless shirt and jacket to wander around in at the office. So I sometimes wear those instead. Why is that a “oh you are trying to turn me on?!”
Because you’re showing ankles and legs. Womens legs are sexy, men apparently don’t have legs, because you almost never hear about mens legs one way or the other.
I’ve also discovered that I have to limit how many dresses I wear, because there’s apparently a point where some people begin to believe that you were hired specifically for how you fit into a dress, and therefore a) it’s okay to pay extra-special attention to how you fit into a dress, and b) you are probably totally incapable of doing your actual job.
Lots of people like long hair. That’s… really not a weird thing to like. o.O
Also I still do not see why one’s fashion choices ought to be made based on random people’s sexual preferences.
“You know, guys don’t actually like that.” Oh really? First: pray, when was it you we’re declared the Arbiter of All Men’s Likes and Dislikes? Second: I do not base every decision on what guys like. Nor, presumably, does long-haired girl.
I love eye makeup, and sometimes I do something new and fun. I have been told several times that ‘you know, if you’re trying to impress me with that, it’s not working.’ Ok then. 1) Aren’t you tactful, Prince Charming and 2) even if I wished that particular guy liked how I looked, a comment like that is guaranteed to remove a few fucks from how many I give about his opinion.
Ha, Ozy, yeah; usually when men tell me what “all guys like” in a tone that suggests I should probably be a good woman and conform to those expectations, they’re saying “all guys like long hair.” But this particular woman’s hair was really unusually long. I’m sure he knows exactly the range of hair length “all guys” prefer, and short hair’s probably out too.
I’m starting to feel like I live in some sort of feminist Narnia over here. Not a single man who I know or work with says stuff like that to me in real life. Online, sure, it’s Unsolicited Penis Update o’clock all the time, but in real life? Doesn’t happen very often, and when it does it’s always a stranger.
Cassandra: The guys I talk to offline tend to avoid Unsolicited Penis Updates. Occasionally they opine that redheads are very hot or something along those lines, but I think that is different, because the conversation was usually already about hotness, and also they are saying “I like redheads” not “ALL MEN LIKE REDHEADS DYE YOUR HAIR RED.”