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Spearheader: The existence of fat women “constitutes nothing less than a full-scale loathing of male sexuality.”

W.F. Price, the man behind The Spearhead and a tireless champion of Men’s Rights, has in his latest post taken on one of the gravest injustices facing American men today. I speak, of course, of fat ladies.

Traveling in Europe, Price has noticed that people tend to be skinnier there than in the US, which naturally has led him to think some deep thoughts about fat ladies in America and how disgusting he finds them.

So-called BBWs in the US are not really curvy — they are rotund.

I really can’t stress enough the extent to which obesity has ruined American women’s attractiveness. Feminists blather on and on about how women should be “comfortable” with their bodies, but the truth is that many American women would be viewed as abominations in most of the world.

Those damn feminists, making ladies fat!

If you were to try to come up with a parallel for men, I suppose it would be something like having toothless, homeless alcoholic men say that they should be proud of themselves and feel attractive.

Actually, if you were to find a parallel for men, it would also be, er, fatness. Obesity rates for men and women in the US are roughly the same, with women having only a slight lead: according to a recent CDC survey, 35.5 percent of adult women and 32.2 percent of adult men are “obese,” by current standards. Never mind that these standards are a bit, well, off, in that they classify the overwhelming majority of Americans as overweight or obese. Never mind that more than half of Europeans are also classified as overweight or obese according to these standards. And never mind that the fat shaming shit we hear every day in the media and on the internet is basically a bunch of bull.

Because Price thinks that fat ladies are gross:

Feminists are really that far out there. They are literally delusional by global standards. No normal man in the rest of the world finds obese American women attractive. Sure, they may be able to find some skinny guy from a third world country who will pretend to love them to get a green card, but any self-respecting man will give them a very wide berth.

Ho ho! Wide berth! I get it.

Naturally Price was hailed in the comments for his brave stance. According to dragnet,

The abomination that is the average American woman in flyover country constitutes nothing less than a full-scale loathing of male sexuality.

Andrew S., for his part, admits that

I always had a thing for cute heavy girls.

But he still thinks they’re stuck-up bitches:

Being in the midwest they are a dime a dozen. But since there aren’t a lot of attractive in shape or thin women in this part of the country, and most of the decent looking women have some meat on there bones, well, it was hard to stomach how women who pretty much anywhere else in the world would have been ignored acted like such perfect bitches.

Seriously, the “cute heavy girls” that Andrew prefers need to learn to properly hate themselves for being fat fatties. Maybe that way they’ll be more willing to put up with all this MRA bullshit.

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pillowinhell
8 years ago

Um..binder? I’m envisioning some one wearing school supplies. I feel fairly confident that this is not the image intended….

thebewilderness
thebewilderness
8 years ago

Right now I’m getting the”men will throw their lives away for a female soldier because otherwise society will punish them”.

While that tells you a great deal about how the commenter thinks, it tells you nothing about how soldiers think. People do not risk their lives to save other people because society will punish them if they don’t. They risk their lives for other people because they value those peoples lives.
This fixation on punishment that MRAs express on almost every subject displays a world view that hav very few contact points with reality.

Gillian
Gillian
8 years ago

men will throw their lives away for a female soldier because otherwise society will punish them”.

This annoys the shit out of me. When male aoldiers throw themselves on a grenade to save a brother-in-arms it’s heroism and they deserve a medal; if a male soldier ever does that for a female soldier, apparently it’s the end of warfare as we know it and destroys troop morale. Come again???

Gillian
Gillian
8 years ago

Blockquote fail… The second para is my response to the first.

pillowinhell
8 years ago

Actually, some of this is being talked about by a vet. He says the military is leary of having women on the front lines because men are conditioned to save women. Which means some men will needlessly risk their lives. And some may do it because they don’t want what society will do to them. I think for the soldiers, its the social conditioning they worry about most.

ozymandias42
8 years ago

Pillow: Breast binder; I’m female-assigned and trans, so I often wear a breast binder to flatten my chest. They’re hard as a fourteen-year-old in a strip club to put on, though.

beshemoth
8 years ago

re ostara321:

(God I still don’t dare blockquote badly, go figure)

“Tangentially, I’ve long noodled on the idea that perhaps part of the animosity a lot of women tend to face when trying to enter male-dominated fields or break through the higher ranks of other fields that tend to be controlled by men higher up, is in part because some (insecure) guys have this gut reaction that having more ladies around means their super important boys work somehow becomes less important. Cause I mean, if a woman can do it, how hard can it be, amirite?”

I can attest to this, in a very limited, anecdotal fashion – when I was working as an (unpaid) labourer for a year, there was a period of 3-4 months at the end of my stint when a bloke who also worked there kept complaining that, there they all were, being Manly Men, doing Manly Work, in the hills and woods, All Men Together, and yet here I was “ruining it all for them” by being there and doing so as well. He kept saying it right in front of me. A LOT. Despite the fact that, at this point, I had been working there for nine months and he had been there for around three whole weeks. (Also, nobody else had had a problem? or, maybe they did, but they weren’t as crass? Anyway, I worried that they did, and though that is in my head, not his, it totally ruined the last stint for me.)

I’m not saying that it’s therefore, for Def, where they *all* come from, but since he kept throwing off other misogynistic sentiments like a misfiring Catherine wheel (“I worship women because they are the only way of producing life!” “women are sluts by sleeping with too many people when it’s the same number as a given man has slept with because only women an have other people’s genitals INSIDE THEM!” “the greatest gift I can give my future wife is CLEAN SPERM* so I will abstain for drugs and alcohol for two years before procreating!” – but he got the hump when I suggested that abstaining afterwards, during her pregnancy, to show support, might also be cool)… methinks me makes very definite woman-hating material. Or is, at least, a GIGANTIC pillock.

*okay maybe not the last one so much, but it was definitely a bit odd, imho.

beshemoth
8 years ago

(Oh erm, also, this was announced the day after he got really irate at discovering I could lift just as much as he could. Of course I could, I’d been doing this job for nearly a year, he’d been working in a call centre back in Blighty…?)

Gillian
Gillian
8 years ago

He says the military is leary of having women on the front lines because men are conditioned to save women.

Yeah, no, wouldn’t that be lovely? and wouldn’t that mean there would be so much less DV and rape? somehow, it seems that men are conditioned to save women only when it’s convenient for yet another restriction on opportunities for women.

Even here in Israel, where we’ve gone back-and-forth on this (women fought side-by-side with men during the War of Independence, a measly 64 years ago – meaning we still have men and women who fought together around, my grandfather being one of them) the reason is not that men are “conditioned to protect women” and will do so under the pressures of battle (MEN are conditioned to protect each other during combat, as previously mentioned), it’s that the public is less prepared to deal with dead female soldiers than it is to deal with dead male soldiers.

We don’t even hear a lot of the “you’ll get raped if you’re captured” bullshit around here – again, since we have a not insignificant number of men who returned from captivity (my former CO among them. He did 8 months in a Syrian prison in ’73 after his Phantom was shot down) we know that men can be raped just as easily as women.

Nope. It’s all about the “CAN they do it” and “how will the public deal with it” and these days, mostly just laziness about the logistics – it’s harder to rebuild all your training and combat infrastructure for two sexes that are supposed to be segregated (doesn’t work, btw… there are few coed combat units, and the boys and girls there fuck like bunnies).

Quackers
Quackers
8 years ago

If my chub has the ability to keep MRA misogynists far away from me AND makes them miserable then that’s a freaking win right there!

*eats her cookies and laughs maniacally*

nwoslave
8 years ago

@Dee
“Disclaimer: in a perfect world everyone would be able to fuck indiscriminately if they so chose, and this we should strive for.”

I’d think loyalty, the opposite of indiscriminate fucking would be something worth striving for.
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@ostara321
“Tangentially, I’ve long noodled on the idea that perhaps part of the animosity a lot of women tend to face when trying to enter male-dominated fields or break through the higher ranks of other fields that tend to be controlled by men higher up, is in part because some (insecure) guys have this gut reaction that having more ladies around means their super important boys work somehow becomes less important. Cause I mean, if a woman can do it, how hard can it be, amirite?”

(insecure) guys? Sounds like shaming and manipulation to place women in positions of high employment they didn’t earn. Isn’t the big fiasco recently about no women being on the board on facebook? The excuse being women use facebook. Women want what men earn. The animosity will only grow as long as quota’s exist. Wanna a nice cushy job in middle management, or a made up position to meet a quota? The requirement is being a woman.

Didn’t like two million women try to sue walmart, and their at it again because they lost? Plus walmart has dropped several million or so to teach women to negotiate better. Quota’s for every damn thing in life, plus encouragement classes, negotiation classes, classes for everything. Men never got any of that. Try and take any of those entitlements away and it’s called the war on women.
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@M Dubz
“That’s a really interesting point re: women breaking into male-dominated fields. I have heard and seen certain high status careers (biology, family medicine, and the clergy (for religious denominations that ordain women) are the three that immediately come to mind) become less high status as they become female dominated.”

I believe it’s called ghettoized after it becomes female dominated. Teaching for instance. We can barely compete with third world countries these days, although hatred of all things masculine or male is thoroughly covered. Psychology is also well on it’s way to becoming an all girls club. We no longer try to help anyone, we either tolerate, accept and validate, or pass out the ridilin.
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@ozymandias42
“Pillow: Breast binder; I’m female-assigned and trans, so I often wear a breast binder to flatten my chest.”

This is priceless! Let me know when your stem and berries grow in!

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
8 years ago

@ Viscaria

The dresses = making an effort thing! It’s so stupid. Like you, I wear dresses when I’m too lazy to think about whether things match. Also, sweater dresses are comfy and warm. In the winter I wear them with knee boots and tights because a. my bed is warm and I want to stay in it for as long as possible, and a sweater dress and tights takes about 5 seconds to put on, and b. if it’s raining dress/boots allows me to keep my feet and legs dry, and not have to spend the rest of the day sitting around in pants that are wet at the hem, which feels disgusting and tends to lead to getting sick.

Viscaria
Viscaria
8 years ago

@Cassandra:

In the winter I wear them with knee boots and tights because a. my bed is warm and I want to stay in it for as long as possible, and a sweater dress and tights takes about 5 seconds to put on, and b. if it’s raining dress/boots allows me to keep my feet and legs dry, and not have to spend the rest of the day sitting around in pants that are wet at the hem, which feels disgusting and tends to lead to getting sick.

By which you mean, because dudes dig it, amirite??!?punctuation!?

This whole conversation is reminding me of an old friend of mine. I would sometimes comment on another woman’s appearance in some way, like “Oh, I just love her long hair. I would never have the patience to grow mine that long,” to which he would quellingly reply, “You know, guys don’t actually like that.” Oh really? First: pray, when was it you we’re declared the Arbiter of All Men’s Likes and Dislikes? Second: I do not base every decision on what guys like. Nor, presumably, does long-haired girl.

This was before I realized I was bi. He doesn’t do this much any more. Maybe now that he knows I’m attracted to women, I’m allowed to ex

Viscaria
Viscaria
8 years ago

…express* thoughts about how they look. Damn you, Post Comment button.

princessbonbon
8 years ago

*offers to trade Quackers Snickers for said cookies*

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
8 years ago

@ Viscaria

I like to call statements like that Unsolicited Penis Updates. Thank you, kind sir, for informing me about how your penis feels about long hair. I will surely take that under advisement.

pillowinhell
8 years ago

What? You need special permission by sexual orientation to notice people of your own gender are attractive? And as a long haired woman (grown it past my butt at one point) there are plenty of men who like long hair.

Its not the patience in growing it. Its the patience in caring for hair that long. Brushing takes 15 mins provided the tangles aren’t too bad

princessbonbon
8 years ago

About dresses-business dresses are a lot easier than pants, sleeveless shirt and jacket to wander around in at the office. So I sometimes wear those instead. Why is that a “oh you are trying to turn me on?!”

pillowinhell
8 years ago

Because you’re showing ankles and legs. Womens legs are sexy, men apparently don’t have legs, because you almost never hear about mens legs one way or the other.

Viscaria
Viscaria
8 years ago

I’ve also discovered that I have to limit how many dresses I wear, because there’s apparently a point where some people begin to believe that you were hired specifically for how you fit into a dress, and therefore a) it’s okay to pay extra-special attention to how you fit into a dress, and b) you are probably totally incapable of doing your actual job.

ozymandias42
8 years ago

Lots of people like long hair. That’s… really not a weird thing to like. o.O

Also I still do not see why one’s fashion choices ought to be made based on random people’s sexual preferences.

kysokisaen
8 years ago

“You know, guys don’t actually like that.” Oh really? First: pray, when was it you we’re declared the Arbiter of All Men’s Likes and Dislikes? Second: I do not base every decision on what guys like. Nor, presumably, does long-haired girl.

I love eye makeup, and sometimes I do something new and fun. I have been told several times that ‘you know, if you’re trying to impress me with that, it’s not working.’ Ok then. 1) Aren’t you tactful, Prince Charming and 2) even if I wished that particular guy liked how I looked, a comment like that is guaranteed to remove a few fucks from how many I give about his opinion.

Viscaria
Viscaria
8 years ago

Ha, Ozy, yeah; usually when men tell me what “all guys like” in a tone that suggests I should probably be a good woman and conform to those expectations, they’re saying “all guys like long hair.” But this particular woman’s hair was really unusually long. I’m sure he knows exactly the range of hair length “all guys” prefer, and short hair’s probably out too.

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
8 years ago

I’m starting to feel like I live in some sort of feminist Narnia over here. Not a single man who I know or work with says stuff like that to me in real life. Online, sure, it’s Unsolicited Penis Update o’clock all the time, but in real life? Doesn’t happen very often, and when it does it’s always a stranger.

ozymandias42
8 years ago

Cassandra: The guys I talk to offline tend to avoid Unsolicited Penis Updates. Occasionally they opine that redheads are very hot or something along those lines, but I think that is different, because the conversation was usually already about hotness, and also they are saying “I like redheads” not “ALL MEN LIKE REDHEADS DYE YOUR HAIR RED.”

pillowinhell
8 years ago

Feminist Narnia? You must mean Canada! Not.

I only seem to get penis updates when I’ve actually “dressed up”. I don’t wear make up or jewelry and I tend to wear jeans and t shirts simply because I don’t want unsolicited comments from the ovens and apartments I scrub..mno wait.. I don’t want to ruin my nicer clothes. I don’t dye my hair and I don’t style it either. In short, I don’t come across as feminine and I’m told that when I’m walking down the street I wear a look that could strip varnish from furniture. That and my manly walk. Which means I’m not in heels and its a brisk pace. I’m told I’m attractive, but I guess random men would rather not tell me about it. Geez, I am the feminazi stereotype!!

Personally, I had enough penis updates as an early teenager. I really don’t care to hear any more.

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
8 years ago

This may also be a personality and circle of friends thing. Ozy and I are both feminist enough that irl it’s probably quite obvious that an unsolicited penis update would be about as welcome as a cockroach in a kitchen, and the circle of friends that we choose for ourselves presumably reflects those preferences. Plus I live in California, and workplace harrassment regulations are fairly strict here, so it’s a stupid man indeed who does that at work.

In the UK, on the other hand, I heard that kind of crap all the time.

Viscaria
Viscaria
8 years ago

I suffered from a rather unfortunate case of don’t-worry-I’m-one-of-the-cool-chicks-itis in high school. I got better. However, it took me a few years to either change the patterns of interaction that I’d set up with some of my friends back then, or abandon lost-cause friendships entirely, so I was still hearing some things like this in my early Uni days. Pretty much all of the UPUs I get now are from strangers.

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
8 years ago

@ Viscaria

It’s a common affliction among young women, and based on women I know who’re in their early-mid twenties now the pressure to be one of the cool chicks and not call men out on their shitty behavior seems to have actually increased in some ways. The only case in the last few years that I can remember a dude pulling that “men don’t really like X so you don’t need to do it” unsolicited comment thing, he was in his early twenties (and an intern – seriously dude, you’re going to sass one of the editors?).

Unimaginative
Unimaginative
8 years ago

Yeah, what is up with the block quotes? I SWEAR I did the tags correctly in my previous comment. (Although the power-made whore instead of power-mad is totally a typo.)

Cause I mean, if a woman can do it, how hard can it be, emirate?

An acquaintance has a line he’s famous for: “If it was easy, then women and [racial epithet] would do it.” What a douche he is.

I used to have hair long enough to sit on, and it actually seemed like less work than short hair. I only had to wash it every couple of days, and I only had to braid it. No shampooing, gelling, styling every damn morning. It did take a while to comb after washing, but I did it during my commute (on a bus), so no big. Oddly, when I got it cut off at my shoulders, most people didn’t notice. The ones who did were old men (I was around 23, they were my dad’s age) that I barely knew.

ozymandias42
8 years ago

Unimaginative: I have very short hair and it’s no work at all, mostly because I just let it flop around the place as it likes. 😛

Pecunium
8 years ago

I think this is right thread:

There once was a man who was angry
So much that he gave himself gangrene

But he was a twit,
and behaved like a shit,

because he couldn’t be sanguine

Polliwog
Polliwog
8 years ago

Ha, Ozy, yeah; usually when men tell me what “all guys like” in a tone that suggests I should probably be a good woman and conform to those expectations, they’re saying “all guys like long hair.” But this particular woman’s hair was really unusually long. I’m sure he knows exactly the range of hair length “all guys” prefer, and short hair’s probably out too.

Speaking as someone with really unusually long hair, I have heard a LOT of UPUs over the years from guys who want to let me know that all guys think that having hair that falls to halfway down my thighs is weird and unappealing, but even more UPUs from guys who want to let me know that all guys really, really, really want to fuck girls with really long hair. All guys should really make up their minds already!

(Of the two, honestly, I prefer the guys who go out of their way to let me know their penis doesn’t like my hair, since they at least usually go away after sharing their brilliant phallic insight, while the other dudes are far too prone to hang around creepily trying to touch my hair even after I explicitly tell them to stop. Dudes, I get that you are long-hair fetishists and that’s very nice for you, but my hair is not here to be your personal masturbatory aid. Ick.)

2-D Man
2-D Man
8 years ago

Guys… would you do me a favor and drop the interrogation, “jokes”. It’s a touchy subject for me; since it’s what I did (and taught) for 16 years.

It’s a complicated subject, but making fun of people who are tortured bothers me, and the odd (presumably unintended) implication that torture is acceptable is something I actually find offensive; even though I am sure that wasn’t what people meant to have as subtext.

OK.

Pecunium
8 years ago

NOW:I’d think loyalty, the opposite of indiscriminate fucking would be something worth striving for.

The two are not incompatible. There is more in heaven and earth than is dreamt of in your philosophy.

Pecunium
8 years ago

pillowinhell: Actually, some of this is being talked about by a vet. He says the military is leary of having women on the front lines because men are conditioned to save women. Which means some men will needlessly risk their lives. And some may do it because they don’t want what society will do to them. I think for the soldiers, its the social conditioning they worry about most.

When did he get out?

I say this because I did a career, and I watched a lot of change. It’s not that there aren’t guys who think that way, but the number of them has dropped to almost neglible numbers since 2003. When Micheal Coren wrote a newspaper column saying much the same as your friend, this was my reply:

Michael Coren is a clueless, dickless, worthless fuck

Read the comments, a lot of them are by male soldiers/vets.

The usual refrain of the reactionary types is to complain that women can’t meet the physical requirements. But, with the exception of the 7ID, the 10MD, and the SF types, humping 60 lbs for day after day is pretty much a dead letter. The US Army is mechanised, and pretty much anyone can ruck up and hump it for a couple of miles with a combat pack (30-50 lbs).

And when you’re need deep in shit and people are trying to kill you… tits are not on your mind. If Wong, or Nelson, or Zawacki had been hit, I’d have been affected. I’d have been just as affected if it had been McKinnon, or Brown, or Rosales, or Britten.

The only one I was likely to lose it over, was a male. I’ve spent days in convoy, nothing to piss in but bottles, and taking a shit required a shovel. We were a mixed unit. We coped. I had one female troop who could piss in a bottle while we were moving.

Is combat physically demanding? Yes. It more mentally/emotionally demanding and I didn’t see any greater percentage of women who were suffering mentally than I did men.

I know women who were in firefights. They did just fine. They’ve been doing it long enough that the consensus is pretty much changed. Word gets around; I can’t think of anyone who was in theater who hasn’t met/heard about, women who did fine when bullets were flying.

Gillian’s comment , it’s that the public is less prepared to deal with dead female soldiers than it is to deal with dead male soldiers. hits more of it.

If Congress didn’t forbid it, there would probably have been more complete integration by now. But that column I referred to is the reason why. Whinging idiots don’t want women, “coarsened” by killing people. It would make them ponder that women are not that different from men.

Magpie
Magpie
8 years ago

You wouldn’t think the military would worry too much about what people are ‘conditioned’ to do. Most people are ‘conditioned’ not to kill other people, but the military find a way around that, don’t they?

pillowinhell
8 years ago

Pecunium thank you. Apparently the vet heard that the military won’t take women lest men die from a general. Of course, this guy starts out with women soldiers stating they expected the men to protect them, one woman had an unloaded weapon desPite orders and another was a slut. Therefore he wouldn’t trust a woman in combat. I asked what kind of military the States run that there’s such poor discipline. Matter dropped. And on to the “men can’t let women die or they’ll be punished” but women need to give up privilege argument. I also noted that until women are on the front lines, we won’t be seen as full contributing members and men will continue to resent us for having it easy.

Magpie, my thoughts exactly.

I’m still waiting for them to come up with an evacuation plan for the Titanic. One guy said oh its easy don’t order women and children first. At the same time, men will feel compelled to lay down their lives even for trained female soldiers. Welp, if highly trained and disciplined troops can’t work past this social conditioning, why would ordinary civilian men magically do so?

katz
8 years ago

My thoughts exactly, too.

M Dubz
M Dubz
8 years ago

@ithilania- That is some fascinating stuff! I wanted to use examples of professions that are transitioning in the modern day, but yeah, it’s not exactly a new phenomenon.

@Owlyslave- Way to prove my point my claiming that any professions that are now female dominated are utterly backwards. Oh, and it’s spelled “ritalin.” You’re welcome, sweetheart.

pillowinhell
8 years ago

Pecunium, he mentioned being in Iraq I think.

Also, your outrage towards Coren was well in line. Jesus christ! His little fantasy with knives and clubs..first thing I thought was “I’m sure her gun will even things up nicely”

I just hope Trooper Blais’ family didn’t read that. Or come across anything remotely like that bullshit. In a way, its a backhanded, conniving way to punish her family as well for not keeping their delicate flower in line.

Jessay (@jessay)
8 years ago

@Crumbelievable Youtube has been overrun. I made a video about MRAs and was dogpiled with 400 comments within a day, and I was expected to answer every one of those comments with a well thought out debate (in a very short amount of characters) or else I’d “lose.” One guy had the nerve to say I’d run away with my tail tucked between my legs because I hadn’t answered his comment in the three hours after he’d posted it, because, you know, going to class is running away scared. I was berated, called an idiot, called fat and ugly, and was given these blanket statements that I was illogical and using straw man arguments with no direct references to which points were those things and why. I was also told that I was just imagining my personal experiences with sexual harassment, that all sorts of well documented, common occurances do not occur, given one off reports as examples of deeply ingrained misandry in our culture, and told 1. I could not get a boyfriend, 2. I must be a horrible girlfriend (talked about me “harping”), 3. they would never date a girl like me. They basically tried to shame me by telling me they wouldn’t date me, not realizing that I would never want to date any of them, so I’m glad I turned them off.

Youtube is a freaking MRA playground. They have nothing better to do than bombard dissenting opinions with hatred and sexism. I was very turned off and just decided to ignore the rest of the comments because nothing productive was coming of it.

As for the talk of men and women in the same field. Aye aye aye. I am in film/media, and let me tell you, women get the “woman jobs” nine times out of ten. Office work, set decorator, makeup, script supervisor, casting. I rarely see women operating the cameras. It’s really off-putting. When you show up, fresh faced, on your first PA gig. The male PAs get assigned to assist the camera department, the gaffers and grips. The women get sent on prop runs, get stuck trying to find extras last minute, etc. It operates in a really sexist fashion. And I can’t count the amount of times I’ve been hit on with the line that the guy is gonna hook me up with another gig, only for him to completely drop the subject when the discussion of my having a boyfriend at the time came up. I count on women to get me jobs because, despite me being helpful, supportive, and good at what I do, I am forgotten by the men who only think of each other. This isn’t just me either, I hear the same story from almost every woman I talk to. Oh, and when women do land the more powerful positions they are seen as bitches when they are assertive. I have seen men in powerful positions act like complete asses without a word of dissent, but the second a female DP says what she needs her assistants to do she’s every sexist term for jerk in the book.

I’d think loyalty, the opposite of indiscriminate fucking would be something worth striving for.

That’s assuming that loyalty and casual sex are mutally exclusive. You make the assumption that sex has to be about love, and one cannot have sex with someone they don’t love. You also assume that one cannot love multiple people. You want to restrict everyone to your very specific set of morals and principles instead of accepting that all people function differently. Some can love, and maintain healthy relationships with multiple people at once, others can only focus on one person at a time. Who are you to impose your morals which do not work for everyone on everyone? As long as everyone is completely honest about their intentions, using protection, getting regularly tested, and gaining consent from their partners to maintain this lifestyle, who are you to tell them what they’re doing is wrong? If you want someone who is exclusively fucking you, that’s your business and you have that right to have that standard for your partner. But if someone else is maintaining an open relationship that works for them and their partners, what business is it of yours?

Online, sure, it’s Unsolicited Penis Update o’clock all the time, but in real life? Doesn’t happen very often, and when it does it’s always a stranger.

When I had facial piercings men made it their mission to shame me out of wearing them. “You’d be so pretty if it wasn’t for that metal in your face.”

Thanks, creepy old customer, because I got these to impress you specifically and now I know that I need to remove them so that your dick can stay hard. Ugh.

Shaenon
8 years ago

Manboobz: Does it seem like whenever women enter a previously high-status career field, sexist people suddenly start claiming it’s easy, undemanding, and worthless? Or is that a paranoid thought?

NWO: Whenever women enter a high-status career field, it becomes easy, undemanding, and worthless! Also, girls suck at everything!

Manboobz: …Okay, then.

Crumbelievable
Crumbelievable
8 years ago

Youtube is a freaking MRA playground. They have nothing better to do than bombard dissenting opinions with hatred and sexism. I was very turned off and just decided to ignore the rest of the comments because nothing productive was coming of it.

I just ended up deleting my account. Even though I stopped communciating with that specific groups of sick fucks, I`ll still get messages from some other misogynist fuck for weeks to come. I`ll check my email as is my daily habit and then be pissed off for the whole day thinking about these creeps.

It`s not enough to avoid MRAs though. One time I made an innocuous post about some band I like and one Youtuber told me thatI deserved to be raped by n**rs。Youtube is a perfect home for the MRM.

Crumbelievable
Crumbelievable
8 years ago

Me fail blockquotes? That`s unpossible.

Quackers
Quackers
8 years ago

@Crumbelievable Youtube has been overrun. I made a video about MRAs and was dogpiled with 400 comments within a day, and I was expected to answer every one of those comments with a well thought out debate (in a very short amount of characters) or else I’d “lose.” One guy had the nerve to say I’d run away with my tail tucked between my legs because I hadn’t answered his comment in the three hours after he’d posted it, because, you know, going to class is running away scared. I was berated, called an idiot, called fat and ugly, and was given these blanket statements that I was illogical and using straw man arguments with no direct references to which points were those things and why. I was also told that I was just imagining my personal experiences with sexual harassment, that all sorts of well documented, common occurances do not occur, given one off reports as examples of deeply ingrained misandry in our culture, and told 1. I could not get a boyfriend, 2. I must be a horrible girlfriend (talked about me “harping”), 3. they would never date a girl like me. They basically tried to shame me by telling me they wouldn’t date me, not realizing that I would never want to date any of them, so I’m glad I turned them off.

And what’s this then about feminists using shaming tactics? you know what I notice about MRAs? they embody every negative trait they asign to feminists. Ideological, overly emotional, biased, bigoted haters of the opposite sex.

Maybe we ought to create a Catalog of MRA Shaming Tactics. Complete with every childish insult and straw feminist you mentioned and more!

Call her ugly? Code Yellow.
Called her fat? Code Brown (because brown is the color of chocolate lolz)
Called her a lesbian? Code Green.
Said she’d never get a husband/boyfriend? Code Red.
Called her a cat lady? Code Blue.
Called her a slut? Code Pink.
Called her irrational? Code Copper.
Called her feminazi? Code Black.
Called her hairy? Code Orange.
Called her misandrist? Code Silver.

And for the male feminist specifically:

Called him a mangina? Code Teal.
Called him a beta? Code Magenta.
Called him gay? Code Grey.
Called him a pussy beggar? Code Beige.

You know it doesn’t surprise me that a cesspool like YouTube is where MRA parasites flourish. That site attracts some of the stupidest assholes out there and the few people who try to argue rationally or in good faith get shot down with insults and threats.

Kakanian
Kakanian
8 years ago

>Actually, some of this is being talked about by a vet. He says the military is leary of having women on the front lines because men are conditioned to save women.

From what I remember, right now the brass is too concerned about soldiers raping other soldiers in the field to allow mixed-gendered combat teams. Soldiers getting shot to save their fellow soldiers used to be a normal part of military romanticism anyway and we see it happening all the time in action movies even these days.

ozymandias42
8 years ago

NWO, darling, as soon as I get the funds together I will have a delightful collection of cocks of all shapes and sizes.

And, um, I’m pretty sure dudes can go to career classes too.

Quackers
Quackers
8 years ago

well at least they’re being open about beating us now: http://www.inmalafide.com/blog/2012/05/01/femininity-is-masochistic-masculinity-is-sadistic/

and they wonder why SPLC is watching them

Quackers
Quackers
8 years ago

Abusers lobby. Utter filth they are.

Jeremiah May 2, 2012 at 12:18 am
The problem is to do it and not be abusive or violent? Why? So we can give them Gina tingles to stimulate their masochism while denying ourselves the sadistic rewards of a real beating? That’s a mangina’s move. A real man doesn’t play at beating his woman, he beats her.