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Reddit: Rewarding the reprehensible (again)

Reddit, you make me cry.

Oh, Reddit. Just when I thought I was out… they pull me back in.

So a couple of days ago Reddit had another one of its regular “confess something awful” mega-threads. This time, the OP asked “what is the one illegal, immoral, criminal, or disgusting thing you’ve always wanted to do or try?”

So, aside from the obvious choices (murder, taking a police officer’s gun) what is one terrible desire that a Redditor could confess that would garner more than a hundred upvotes?

Did your answer involve pedophilia – sorry, ebebophilia? Well, congratulations. You are of course correct:

I would have also accepted “smash everything in a Pottery Barn“ and “fuck  a female horse.”

Naturally, Reddit being Reddit, someone helpfully offered the would-be child rapist advice on places it would be legal for him to fulfill his desires. And got a dozen upvotes for it.

Did you also guess that some brave Redditor would try to talk the would-be child abuser out of it – and hundreds of upvotes for it? No? Amazingly (for Reddit), someone did – though in true Reddit fashion they did so not because it’s wrong to prey on the young, but because 14-year-olds are annoying.

For many even more horrible confessions that didn’t get quite many upvotes, go here and sort by “controversial.”

Oh, but you say it’s not fair to pick on Redditors in a “confess awful things” thread?

Redditors don’t need a special occasion to celebrate pedophilia.

Thanks again to ShitRedditSays for pointing me to all this awfulness.

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Pecunium
8 years ago

Just amazing. I don’t know if I should be happy, or weep, that the number of upvotes is offset by as many downvotes, or that the total of upvotes is greater than indicated value.

jumbofish
8 years ago

sighhhh oh reddit you disgust me.

indifferentsky
8 years ago

I love that pic.
In other news.
Gross.

Xanthë
8 years ago

286 upvotes? No doubt Ma99ie will be here to tell us that this is only a tiny proportion of Redditors, and the fact that this got comment more than double the number of downvotes says nothing about the toleration of pedophilia/ephebophilia on Reddit, blah blah blah Reddit apologetics blah blah blah…

GingerSnaps
GingerSnaps
8 years ago

Just because ONE person on a thread FULL of confessions that are awful says one thing about ephebophilia does NOT mean that reddit, which is A W E S O M E, is full of pedophiles. Those upvotes are probably bitch-tittied plushy mangina feminist trolls trying to make the MRM look bad because they finally figured out that the world, which is largely composed of lay people to busy going their own way to give a shit about MISANDRY!, are taking the red pill and realizing that the world is being overrun by manly-women feminists and their white knighted followers. Your time is nigh, my fellow manly totally-not mangina men!

I’m trying to think of something else I can say in order to sound like an actual MRA, but all I can think of is MOAR NONSENSE!

In all honesty, though? Fuck reddit.

valerienorth
valerienorth
8 years ago

It’s strange because sometimes they use the excuse that they can’t tell the difference between a 14 year old and a 18 year old. If that is the case, why go for the 14 specifically? Again, no logic.

hellkell
hellkell
8 years ago

Stay A W E S O M E, Reddit.

G-Rose from Brown U
8 years ago

286 isn’t anwhere close to where it will top off at

Ruby Hypatia
Ruby Hypatia
8 years ago

It sickens me that there are so many perverts out there, and we usually can’t tell who they are until they victimize someone.

cloudiah
8 years ago

TW for rape & jokes about rape.
There’s also luke727 who has “always been curious about rape and murder. To be honest the struggle involved in rape seems like it would be a ‘fun’ challenge, trying to impose your will against someone else resisting.”
42 upvotes! reddit is A W E S O M E. Go ma99ie’s people!
With some great responses, like one from wtfno:

Rape: a fun challenge; like wrestling without rules.

6 upvotes! Reddit is super A W E S O M E. Because they liked this one, but not quite as much!

Manjaw the Mighty
8 years ago

Man-hating lesbian Amazons do not have a word to express the level of extreme distaste that I feel upon reading this. I would go on to say that we would typically respond to a such a situation with a swift axe-stroke, but I have gathered that outright murder is very much frowned-upon outside of Amazonian society. In the interest of cultural sensitivity, I will simply glower and set my manly jaw in disgust.

anodos
anodos
8 years ago

I think I am beginning understand MRAs’ horrible fear of man-hating lesbians: Manjaw is slowly turning me away from the Glorious True Path of Straightness. It’s the axe, I think. I just can’t resist a good axe.

Harold Adrian Philby
Harold Adrian Philby
8 years ago

You know, the idea of smashing everything in a pottery barn had never actually occurred to me, but now I really want to do it.

felixBC
felixBC
8 years ago

I think it would be simpler if I never clicked a reddit link again. Certainly wouldn’t need to stock up on brain bleach.

Wasn’t the deal with Pocahontas being 11 IRL that she also didn’t have a (sexual) relationship with John Smith IRL? Nice way to conflate Disney with reality and use it to justify pedophilia.

*repeating in my head* Never click the link.

felixBC
felixBC
8 years ago

Wikipedia, of course: “Historical records do not suggest that Smith and Pocahontas were lovers. The romance is featured only (but repeatedly) in fictional versions of their relationship (such as the 1995 animated film by Walt Disney). The first romance was written about them in the early 19th century, suggesting the story’s mythic appeal. Accounts of such a romance have been repeated in films made in the United States as late as 2009.”

/factchecking

blitzgal
8 years ago

@Felix

Yeah, I don’t know why people still believe the Disney version of the story. The true story is pretty tragic. Pocahontas was captured and held on an English ship for over a year, married off to an Englishman, then carted off to England to be paraded around the nobility as just one of many exotic items discovered in the New World. She then fell ill and died as they were traveling back to the Americas. She never made it home again, and is buried somewhere in England.

nwoslave
8 years ago

@blitzgal
“Yeah, I don’t know why people still believe the Disney version of the story.”

Luckily, feminists have been rewriting history for decades as womens oppression. All those millenia of not be afforded the privilege of dying in thankless jobs which women couldn’t perform equally. The poor dears.

Anyways, back to the topic at hand. I wonder how many of those upvotes are by feminists, feverishly working to maintain the bad man motto we’re sold every minute of every day? Oh that’s right. I keep forgetting. Women never lie or manipulate.

jumbofish
8 years ago

Anyways, back to the topic at hand. I wonder how many of those upvotes are by feminists, feverishly working to maintain the bad man motto we’re sold every minute of every day? Oh that’s right. I keep forgetting. Women never lie or manipulate.

Oh noes now NWO buys into the “feminists spend all their time upvoting/downvoting stuff on reddit” conspiracy theory!

Sharculese
Sharculese
8 years ago

wait, owlslave, i thought you were pro-sex with fourteen year olds? feminists are slandering you by suggesting you support something you… support?

Tulgey Logger
8 years ago

Feminism: subtly supporting misogyny to make a few men look slightly worse since 1808.

hellkell
hellkell
8 years ago

NWO, stop resting on your laurels. Troll of the Year doesn’t win itself. You’re phoning it in.

Fembot
Fembot
8 years ago

I want to smash everything in Pottery Barn! I have to iron their sheets and pillow cases every time I wash them. I call them Wrinkle Barn.

Nanasha
Nanasha
8 years ago

Imagining things and wanting to do things are two different things. I have imagined fun and heinous ways to kill people who really piss me off or make me feel unsafe (such as my mom who is an abusive asshat), but I would never actually WANT to do said thing, because the problems inherent in actually killing another human being would not be worth the consequences. Still, it’s great to feel better when you’re underage and rendered powerless at the hands of someone else’s abuse.

Something tells me that many of these people are entitled enough to think that they DESERVE to commit criminal acts and get away with them (oh those evil feminists, not allowing these jokers to rape and murder whenever they want to)….and they’re planning to do so.

scarlettpipistrelle
8 years ago

One famous ebebophiliac: Dick Hickock, one of the In Cold Blood Killers. Another: Warren Jeffs of FLDS 12 & 14 year old bride fame. I’m sure there are more fine examples.

Pecunium
8 years ago

scarlettpipistrelle: One need not try to make ephebophiliacs guilty by association. Being predatory of weaker people is damning enough on it’s own.

And I’d say that trying to paint them all as violently atavistic is helpful to them, in general, since most of them aren’t of that stripe, and so can say, “I’m not like that, I just like someone who is at the start of their sexual maturity”.

Then again, I don’t think 14 counts a ephebophilia. I think it’s pedophilic. and most pedophiles aren’t a Warren Jeffs either.

Rutee Katreya
8 years ago

Oh no. NWO has discovered our secret plan. Our rule is now compromised. We must find a new tactic of deceit.

Kyrie
Kyrie
8 years ago

Or we could ask the CIA to kidnap NWO. I’m pretty sure I’ve heard we control them.

lauralot89
8 years ago

Why ask the CIA? One of us should just go into the street and shout that he assaulted us. The police will be chopping down his door in seconds.

ostara321
ostara321
8 years ago

Why ask the CIA? One of us should just go into the street and shout that he assaulted us. The police will be chopping down his door in seconds.

He’ll go to prison forever AND have to pay us all one BILLION dollars each in vaginamoney.

Sharculese
Sharculese
8 years ago

make sure to accuse him of calling you mean names a.k.a. sexual harassment

Snowy
Snowy
8 years ago

Or using logic, which is domestic violence.

scarlettpipistrelle
8 years ago

For most, the demarc between pedophilia and ephebophilia is that the target is in the early stages of puberty in the later. Not that this makes it better. My personal impression was that it is a disorder of impulse control. Sexuality is by its very nature exploratory, and people have all sorts of feelings, impulses, and random thoughts. It’s what we think it’s ok to act upon that makes all the difference.

scarlettpipistrelle
8 years ago

Oops, I meant ebebophila. Can’t type too gud after working all day supporting myself, which MGTOWs think I can’t/won’t do.

Pecunium
8 years ago

And the OP said they wanted a 14 year old, in the abstract. Not a specific 14 year old, but a generic one.

Unless you are trying to argue that the issue of desire is purely based on the “early stages of puberty.” that’s a child.

Even if you are, that’s still not a great defintion.

And, that doesn’t change my complaint, that of you comparing a pedophile (Warren Jeffs, there was a 9 year old he took to be a bride), and a murderer to generic ephebophiles.

Personally, I do see a difference between the two, and it has to do with the later stages of puberty, when the target of their affections looks, almost, like an adult; but lacks the emotional growth to exhibit truly adult behaviors.

So, for me, someone who is more than about 17 who is interested in 14 year-olds is being problematic. Someone who is more than 20 is a pedophile.

scarlettpipistrelle
8 years ago

The marriages that nailed Jeffs involved a 12 and a 14 year old, if I remember correctly. The audio sex tape of the group scene was decisive. Warren Jeffs also showed attraction to age-appropriate women: his favorite wife and friend was Naomi, who was not a minor. The whole deal of recreated modern patriarchal societies in our time is a strange ball of wax. Polygamy and the notion that puberty as God’s sign of readiness for marriage (which you would have heard expressed in abundance in the comment sections of the Salt Lake Tribune in the months after the YFZ ranch bust) tend to also encourage the notion of ranking patriarchs calling dibs on young girls, which brings in their peculiar practice of “Placement Marriage.” And, there’s a whole weird history to that. But I digress.

The youngest wife of Tom Green, who joined the family at 14 stated in a televised interview that she had no desires except to marry and start bearing children. Perhaps that was true in her case, but as an ideal model for female sexuality, it leaves out a lot. Like higher education.

According to some accounts, one event that spurred the violence at the Clutter home in Kansas was Dick’s increasing attention towards the teenage Nancy Clutter and Perry’s reaction to it. Again, there’s impulse control going haywire.

I maintain that it’s perfectly ok to think and/or feel all sorts of things. But to deliberately truncate a girl’s ascent to adulthood by encumbering her with the responsibilities of an adult sexual relationship is at best, questionable.

Snowy
Snowy
8 years ago

In my experience there is pretty much 3 categories of pedophile/ephebophile people (I think it’s kind of silly to differentiate between those two things because first of all there seems to be a lot of overlap and second the only times I’ve ever really seen those words used is in some kind of weird hierarchy argument where the ephebophiles are claiming to be better than pedophiles and therefore totally ok or something) also really any kind of desire that would cause harm like for animals or to rape or murder people or whatever

1. people who act on their fantasies by assaulting actual children/animals/people/whatever

2. people who refrain only because they’re afraid of being caught/lack the opportunity

3. people who understand that it’s morally wrong to do something like that and/or have no desire to actually live out those fantasies

Category 1 and 2 are the same in that they’re both morally horrible, and category 2 and 3 are the same in terms of the same end result of no one being hurt. But to conflate all of them as the same and say that everyone who has whatever desire is the same as this random war criminal/murderer/whatever is stupid. That’s like saying oh Valerie Solanas was an attempted murderer therefore all feminists are in good company.

ABNOY
ABNOY
8 years ago

Actually, desire for sex with 14-year olds is Hebephilia. (roughly elementary school/pre-school – pedophilia, middle school-hebephilia, high school-ephebophilia)

And you’re being too dramatic, (presumably vanilla) heterosexual sex — not RAPE RAPE, mind you– between an older male and a 14-year old teenager is not the end of the world or the downfall of civilization (except maybe for people with your draconian Victorian sexuality), considering that it was perfectly LEGAL until fairly recently in Canada (i.e. turn of the 21st century) and even in some of your own U.S. states and is even today still legal in many countries in Europe (“advanced” countries even, Spain is hardly backwards is it?) and Asia (of course, Japan), right next door in Mexico and Latin America. where it’s considered part of the traditional culture (it features frequently in Jose Garcia Marquez’s famous novels, for instance).

Jean-Renee
Jean-Renee
8 years ago

@ABNOY,

Oh, fuck off. Anyone who uses phrases like “rape rape” and equates “I can’t stick my peen in an adolescent” with a “draconian Victorian sexuality” is undoubtedly a shithead.

Pecunium
8 years ago

ABNOY: And you’re being too dramatic, (presumably vanilla) heterosexual sex — not RAPE RAPE, mind you– between an older male and a 14-year old teenager is not the end of the world or the downfall of civilization (except maybe for people with your draconian Victorian sexuality), considering that it was perfectly LEGAL until fairly recently in Canada (i.e. turn of the 21st century) and even in some of your own U.S. states and is even today still legal in many countries in Europe (“advanced” countries even, Spain is hardly backwards is it?) and Asia (of course, Japan), right next door in Mexico and Latin America. where it’s considered part of the traditional culture (it features frequently in Jose Garcia Marquez’s famous novels, for instance).

Ah… an appeal to authority, and some “Prude Shaming”, as well as, “those exotic people do it, so it’s ok”.

It was legal to rape one’s wife until recently. It was socially acceptable it the South (and some of the North) to lynch blacks; as recently as the 1930s people were quite open about it… there were souvenir postcards, and photographs. It was so prevalent that people complained when the post office started to enforce the law agaist sending such postcards.

Being “advanced” in some ways doesn’t preclude being, “backwards” in others. The US maintained chattel slavery for quite some time after the rest of the, “civilised” world had outlawed it. S. Africa maintained Apartied into the present era: and Maggie Thatcher tried to keep Britain in a role which supported it.

As to, “Victorian Morality”, heh. It was quite the flap in Britain when some tried to make the age of consent as high as 16. It wasn’t fair, you see, to keep men from fucking 12 year olds. It wasn’t until 1875 that the age of consent was raised: to 13. In 1885 it was raised again, to 16.

It wasn’t until 2003 that paying anyone under the age of 18 for sex.

So being against fucking children, and adolescents isn’t a “Victorian” attitude. Given that I’ll bet you have no real idea how the Victorians viewed sex, I think we can safely dissimiss it as a cheap attempt at making us feel we aren’t “enlightened” because we are “repressing” a “natural urge”. Taking a shit is a natural urge too, but we also think it has a proper venue; and we teach our children not to do it on the living room carpet.

And “RAPE RAPE”? Really? Rape is sex without consent. The victim’s age is immaterial to that. So to are the sex, the relational status, the sobriety. If person doesn’t consent, it’s rape.

Statutory rape, is different, and consent isn’t (usually) an issue.

So it’s RAPE RAPE too.

Pecunium
8 years ago

It wasn’t until 2003 that paying anyone under the age of 18 for sex. was illegal. Until then you could have sex, for money, with a 16 year old.

Sharculese
Sharculese
8 years ago

And you’re being too dramatic, (presumably vanilla) heterosexual sex — not RAPE RAPE, mind you– between an older male and a 14-year old teenager

a grown-ass man having sex with a child is straight-up plain old rape, no qualifiers necessary

right next door in Mexico and Latin America. where it’s considered part of the traditional culture (it features frequently in Jose Garcia Marquez’s famous novels, for instance).

okay, so i know ggm’s full name technically has a jose in it, but still…

also, when your go to source is fiction, you are not on strong ground, buddy

Pecunium
8 years ago

scarlettpipistrelle: Warren Jeffs also showed attraction to age-appropriate women:

Which means he wasn’t a fixated pedophile, it doesn’t mean sex with 14 year olds isn’t pedophilic.

FelixBC
FelixBC
8 years ago

That’s it. I officially now consider anyone who uses “hebephilia” in an “yeah, but” sentence is a pedophile. Just stop beating around the (14 year old) bush.

FelixBC
FelixBC
8 years ago

And just for you, ABNOYing, “ephebophilia” too.

Xtra
Xtra
8 years ago

“Luckily, feminists have been rewriting history for decades as womens oppression. All those millenia of not be afforded the privilege of dying in thankless jobs which women couldn’t perform equally. The poor dears.”

but of course it’s a much more wonderful privilege to die in thankless birthing of children.

I was a 14 year old girl once, I never had any desire at that time to have sex with much older men. Is what the 14 year old wants ever thought of in this equation with some people? just, ugh!

Jean-Renee
Jean-Renee
8 years ago

@Xtra,

Is what the 14 year old wants ever thought of in this equation with some people?

Fourteen-year-olds do not have opinions or desires, silly. Fourteen-year-olds have cherries in need of popping.

Okay, I just threw up in my mouth a little from typing that. I’m swearing off sarcasm for at least an hour. I need to go shower and bleach my brain.

Viscaria
Viscaria
8 years ago

@ABNOY (oh boy)…

And you’re being too dramatic, (presumably vanilla) heterosexual sex — not RAPE RAPE, mind you–

Yeah, no, it is. There is no kind of rape that’s just kinda rape. It’s all rape. Also, I’m curious: would it count as RAPE RAPE for you if it was queer sex? Kinky sex? Do the genders involved and the acts involved somehow shield it from being rape?

between an older male and a 14-year old teenager is not the end of the world or the downfall of civilization (except maybe for people with your draconian Victorian sexuality),

You know what? This is probably true. A single act of raping a child would probably not bring down an entire civilisation. It’s pretty likely to fuck over that child, though. Do we care about her at all, or just “the end of the world”?

considering that it was perfectly LEGAL until fairly recently in Canada (i.e. turn of the 21st century

Aww, Ducky. Yes, it’s true, we had a horribly messed up and outdated law on the books for a shamefully long time. I’m sure it helped some people prey on children. Doesn’t make it right. And, anecdotally, when I was a young teen the age of consent was still 14. None of the adults I knew thought it was okay when adults would try to manipulate us into having sex with them. We definitely didn’t think it was okay. Legally, yes, fucked up as it is, it was okay. Culturally, I can’t think of anyone who thought it was acceptable. The vast majority of people who made the “but it’s legal!” defense were people who wanted to take advantage of the immaturity of 14 year olds in order to rape them.

I can’t speak of what it was like to be an adult under that law, because they reformed it the year I turned 18. I can say that when the reform happened, the two most common reactions I heard from people were “Good, our age of consent laws were so terrible” and “Jesus, you’re telling me it was legal for adults to have sex with 14 year olds!? What the hell! That’s fucked up.” But I didn’t speak to a cross-section of Canadians about it, just people I personally know.

Pecunium
8 years ago

Viscaria: Oh, that’s not fair! You’re pointing out that the culture was against sex with children; even when it was legal. That will undercut his argument that culture defines what’s right and laws are made by prudes (who are against, “vanilla” sex just because it’s exploiting children).

So cruel, so hard. So vicious, using facts and personal experience like that to point out the immorality of his arguments.

Viscaria
Viscaria
8 years ago

@Pecunium, you know what would be even more cruel and unfair of me to do? Point out that the old age of consent law went into effect in 1890. When Victoria was Queen of Canada.