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Civilization and its Discontented Ladies

If it weren't for us men, we'd all still be living like this.

Oh, you ladies! Apparently, if you were left to your own devices, we’d all still be living in caves. The dude at The Black Pill, the blog formerly known as Omega Virgin Revolt, explains the grave danger that uncontrolled ladieness poses to civilization. (The thing, not the computer game.)

What is civilization?  There are many definitions of “civilization”, but IMO the most important definition of civilization is controlling female behavior, all of which acts against civilization. Civilization was created as soon as ways of controlling female behavior were developed.  Before civilization men had to constantly deal with female behavior so they never had the time to develop science, technology, etc.  When female behavior was put under control, then men didn’t have to spend so much time worry about women.  Men could spend time inventing agriculture and later other forms of science and technology.  Keeping women and their destructive behavior under control is the key to civilization.

Seriously. If we dudes hadn’t clamped down on your lady behavior, we’d be fucked. Dudes like Mr. Black Pill would be out there trying their best to build up civilization by posting lady-hating screeds on the internet and not having sex with anyone, and you gals would be undermining all their hard work by doing terrible lady things like, say, working in government, doing scientific research, teaching filmmaking, writing books, making interesting jewelry, working as EMTs, being Secretary of State, and writing Supernatural fanfic. Wait, that’s already happening. Uh oh. Civilization is in danger!

And of course evil feminists are at the heart of the Lady Plot Against Civilization.

So much of feminism is a screed against civilization, science, and technology.  Feminists have called Isaac Newton’s Principia Mathematica a rape manual.  Feminists hate the technology industry and have attacked technology in general as male rape of the natural world and/or the enforcement of patriarchy over nature.  Feminists know unconciously that civilization is the greatest threat to the power of women.  Civilization was developed by men, not women.  Women are only along for the ride because sex and babies can’t happen without them (for now).  Every advancement in science and technology is a threat to women.  Every advancement in science and technology brings up a step closer to freeing men from needing women.

So watch it, ladies. As soon as we work out this whole having babies without ladies thing, your days are numbered! Then all we’ll need to do is to figure out how to get all the dudes in the world who actually like and respect women and think of them as fellow human beings to abandon them for sex robots. Piece of cake.

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Polliwog
Polliwog
8 years ago

Ah, epic troll meltdowns, how sad yet hilarious they are.

Of course, before the meltdown, I was already laughing my ass off at Mr. Expert here’s assertion that “Neanderthal apes” (which are not humans) lived in Africa two million years ago and are still around today. It’s actually kind of hard to concoct a statement in which absolutely everything is wrong, but he accomplished it! Well done, kiddo!

Johnson
Johnson
8 years ago

I’m dismissing you all for stupidity and just plain boring me to death with your childish female cliches. You’ve used up your cliche book and no one here is smart enough to invent new ones.That requires a man.

Snowy
Snowy
8 years ago

Oh no, does that mean you’re leaving? Say it ain’t so!

Johnson
Johnson
8 years ago

Golliwog-get off that computer that was invented by a man and go back to HS.

MollyRen (@MollyRen)
8 years ago

You’ve used up your cliche book and no one here is smart enough to invent new ones. That requires a man.

Actually, that probably requires Holly or Ami. Where are the best commentators when you need them?

Sharculese
Sharculese
8 years ago

dude, you can leave any time youre finished embarrassing yourself

jumbofish
8 years ago

We need a man to direct us!!…or maybe manjaw would work just as well XD

jumbofish
8 years ago

Golliwog-get off that computer that was invented by a man and go back to HS.

Hi pell

MollyRen (@MollyRen)
8 years ago

Actually, “new cliche” is an oxymoron… >.>

kirbywarp
kirbywarp
8 years ago

No, penis, only you have the Johnson to believe that you “invent” cliches.

Snowy
Snowy
8 years ago

Golliwog-get off that computer that was invented by a man and go back to HS.

Oh hai Pell/Jane

ozymandias42
8 years ago

Polli, why does EVERYONE insist on calling you Golliwog?

jumbofish
8 years ago

Its definitely pell. Only pell called polliwog golliwog.

How is jane doing? and your uncle? XD

burgundy
burgundy
8 years ago

I refuse to put more effort into responding to a troll than the troll puts into the trolling. If you can come up with something better than “women are stupid and emotional, and btw you are all fat lesbians,” then I promise to be more creative in my replies. DKM has his dolls, NWO has his… NWO-ness, but what are you bringing to the table that hasn’t been brought by so many others before you?

Snowy
Snowy
8 years ago

oops ninja’d by jumbo

cloudiah
8 years ago

I can invent new cliches!
“Stick a mammoth in him,he’s done.”
“He’s as slippery as a porcupine.”
“That explanation was as clear as basketry.”

jumbofish
8 years ago

I knew that immaturity sounded familiar. XD

MollyRen (@MollyRen)
8 years ago

@cloudiah: See, this is what I was hoping for. 😀

jumbofish
8 years ago

Did david finally return? It’s awfully quiet….

cloudiah
8 years ago

“He’s as nervous as a lesbian dildo in a room full of rocking chairs.”
“He’ll keep on going until the sardines come home.”
“He’s irritable today. He must have gotten up on the wrong side of the Andes.”

cloudiah
8 years ago

@jumbofish, David has sussed out “Johnson’s” real location, and the fem-drones are about to arrive.

Polliwog
Polliwog
8 years ago

Golliwog-get off that computer that was invented by a man and go back to HS.

Nice to see you again, too, Pell. How’s your Uncle Monty?

hellkell
hellkell
8 years ago

Aw, Pell’s back. I see he’s still huffing glue.

Dracula
Dracula
8 years ago

Man, why are these trolls so bad at insulting people? Tip for ya; copping a condescending attitude doesn’t work if everyone in the room thinks you’re an idiot.

Hippodameia
Hippodameia
8 years ago

I think the trolls really do expect everyone to fall apart at the first volley of insults, and have nothing in reserve when that doesn’t work.

katz
8 years ago

Cloudiah:
“Poke, poke, poke teh troll, gently down the screen,” surely?

burgundy
burgundy
8 years ago

Hippodameia, I think that’s part of it. I think maybe another part is a power/control thing. On the OkCupid thread, there was discussion of how the root of negging is the idea that if you imply something kind of negative, the other person, in a bid for your approval, will try to prove you wrong. If a troll says “you are all fat unemployed lesbians who can’t get dates,” and we respond with “nuh-uh, here are all the details of my professional and personal life, plus pictures to prove how not-fat I am,” then the troll is controlling the conversation and we are responding in a way that reassures them they have power over us. When we don’t respond that way, they get angry because we’re not doing what they are implicitly telling us to do. Women are supposed to want men to approve of them. They are witholding approval, but we’re not getting upset, and therefore we are breaking the rules and acting unfairly.

That’s my guess, anyway.

katz
8 years ago

I vote against Pell, btw. He never melted down properly; he just made up more and more absurd stories about himself.

Manjaw the Mighty
Manjaw the Mighty
8 years ago

As someone who actually IS an enormous lesbian who doesn’t fit through most doors, I am not sure how or why I should feel bad about that. Certainly I gather that in non-Amazonian culture, being called fat is grave insult—almost as bad as being called feminine or womanly—but it still confuses me.

Hippodameia
Hippodameia
8 years ago

@burgundy, I agree completely. They cannot handle the fact that they’re just not that important to us.

cloudiah
8 years ago

@katz, Yes, that is a lovely cliche.

mythago
8 years ago

@burgundy, sounds about right. YOU’RE NOT FOLLOWING THE SCRIPT! I mean, that’s pretty much the root of their issues, isn’t it? Women aren’t following the little script in their heads.

And it is always hilarious to see them fall apart when “I don’t want to fuck you!” (which is really what ‘you’re a fat ugly lesbian’ means) doesn’t matter to us.

Rutee Katreya
8 years ago

Rutee, I don’t think men were gathering most of the time, they were out hunting. The meat they brought home caused humans to grow bigger brains. No doubt women spent more times around plants than the men did.

There’s not generally that much game relative to plant matter, you twit. In fact, there is *never* that much game relative to plant matter, humans just aren’t necessarily equipped to eat all of it (Kelp in the arctic, for instance) In most areas, gathering is both higher calories, and less work (Fucking learn something; due to the inefficiency of energy transfer, an omnivore will almost always have more plants available for eating than prey animals).

And no, intelligence likely has little to do with meat. Humans’ intelligence is in large part a response to cooking; Cooking made it much easier to digest your food, which is fucking important when you don’t have things bred to be easier to eat. It meant we didn’t have to devote nearly as much energy to our stomachs, and we started to see other mutations become both possible and more useful (Our brains use up TONS of energy, formerly used by the stomach, by necessity).

The latter is actually easy to cite;
http://www.scribd.com/doc/7123914/Cooking-and-the-Ecology-of-Human-Origins

The former is substantially harder for me to cite, actually, but someone else’s work on it..
web.archive.org/web/20100528023353/http://www.coconutstudio.com/skull&bonesx.htm
http://web.archive.org/web/20090330083815/http://www.coconutstudio.com/Insects.htm
Yes, those studies are older than normal, but as they’re not on modern day humans, that’s probably not quite so important (And no, his writing isn’t very good, but he does have sources readily gathered)

Really now, if it’s supposed to be hunting, why has it only occured once? Humans are not unique in hunting prey, after all; there’ve been species doing it for much longer than us, and it predated us by more than a billion years.

http://berkeley.edu/news/media/releases/99legacy/6-14-1999a.html

It’s not controversial that in some environments, meat is fucking important (It’s pretty fucking central to the inuit, for instance), but your citation doesn’t say what you say.

A cunt, a “degree’ in sociology, and a dollar will get you a cup coffee at MickyD’s

Said without irony while consciously relying on anthropology.

10k years ago they were all spread out in Europe, W Asia and N Africa and they were all the same Caucasian race.

You’re trolling. You’re aware that humans arose in africa, right?

And in the future never try to argue with a man twice your age and who has two advanced degrees because you’ll only look lie the irrational fool you are.

Dude, you can’t format, you can’t write, and you can’t cite. I really don’t think you’ve got an ‘advanced degree’, and if you’re relying on age to prove your point, you’re either not very bright, or not actually much older than 16. I’m really not worried about which of us is looking foolish here, believe you me.

The growing season in N Europe was 60 days which may produce cabbages that man cannot live on alone.

Dude, taiga may not be great for agriculture, but it produces substantially more in plant matter – that humans can consume – than that.

There were no predators that could attack a group of manmoths except man

*Facepalm*
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saber_tooth_tiger

Unless manmoths are something else entirely, and you didn’t mean mammoths.

small grass eating animals were eaten by prey other than man.

Some were, and some lived, but it’s not like humans can’t hunt those things just because they’re slower. Just the fact that someone else is competing can drive off predators not actively looking for a fight. Ecosystems are WAY more complex than you seem to think.

And stop getting your info from Hollywood fillms like Cave Bear and Quest for Fire.

I’ve never heard of those before today, dude.

And when I said that paternity was unknown until recently I’m talking about recent human history 10k years ago.

I’m pretty sure you are amazingly wrong about this XD

Sharculese-go play with your dildo, lesbian. That’s the closest you’ll ever get to a man.

Did you mean to include that comma?

Try making these dumb comments on an uncensored men’s site

Why? I don’t waste my time talking to fools like you. Also, your comments are getting through fine, what censorship? XD

Oh, is this pell? That explains a lot, well, I already wrote it.

Rutee Katreya
8 years ago

Oh, and lest you think I’m really talking to you, troll, you’re a stage prop, not my audience XD

Rutee Katreya
8 years ago

Hm, apparently I may stand corrected on meat having less than nothing to do with intelligence, but the actual hypothesis is not that eating meat is sufficient; it’s that eating meat is *necessary* (but insufficient). None of which gainsays that meat doesn’t need to be the driving force behind calories. Right, I need to remember that whenever Ruby supports an academic position, she hasn’t read it at all prior and is very probably misrepresenting it. You’d think I’d have learned by now.

cloudiah
8 years ago

@Rutee As a member of the audience, I just want to say I really appreciate your posts. You write about stuff I don’t know much about, and I usually end up going off and doing more research and learning interesting stuff. I seriously did not expect to be learning about anthropology, etc., here, but it’s been a nice unintended consequence of stumbling across this site.

DragonsBeHere
DragonsBeHere
8 years ago

It wasn’t cooking or meat, or bipedalism or depth perception or opposable thumbs or natural selection or any of that bs. It was an ancient astronaut. Doesn’t anyone watch ancient aliens?

And, civilization has been around since pre-ice age. Google pyramid off coast of Japan!

Xanthë
8 years ago

Mwahahahaha! Jumbo and Snowy (amongst others) called the troll correctly. We win again!

KathleenB
KathleenB
8 years ago

Johnson: I’m fat, mentally ill AND crippled, and i still managed to get out the door and have an excellent time tonight. Two advanced degrees do not give you psychic powers.

Pecunium
8 years ago

Gillian: Old folks were abandoned when they could no longer fend for themselves. All because a hunter-gatherer tribe cannot afford the burden of someone who only consumes resources over an extended timeframe

And a number of skeletons which had serious arthritis, or had suffered debilitating wounds have been found too.

People are more compassionate than most give credit for, even in war; where the object is to kill people.

The MRA idea of dog eat dog is at odds with reality.

Pecunium
8 years ago

Ruby: . The meat they brought home caused humans to grow bigger brains

Citation needed.

It was this new meat diet, full of densely-packed nutrients, that provided the catalyst for human evolution, particularly the growth of the brain, said Katharine Milton, an authority on primate diet.

Half credit.

I have other citations which posit an increase in seafood (particularly shellfish), and the attendant fatty acids (later IDed as Omega3 Fatty Acids) were primary; and the question as to origin is open, but “gathering by women” is as reasonable as, “gathered by everyone” and better in both cases than, “gathered by men”.

Pecunium
8 years ago

Cassandra: I thought Eskimos-put-grandma-on-an-ice-floe was a stereotype.

It’s a misunderstanding. In some Esquimeax culture (using the western name to cover a number of cultures, from Greenland to Alaska with some shared mythos/habits) when times were entering starvation level, the elderly/infirm might say, “I am going out, I may be some little while”, and so commit a suicide for the benefit of the group.

Pecunium
8 years ago

Johnson: Rutee-10k years ago the entire population of the earth was 1m. They were all spread out in Europe, W Asia and N Africa and they were all the same Caucasian race.

The fuck?

You are arguing that an adaptive trait which exists in Europe is the parent state of mankind? When origins are plainly in Africa? When DNA shows the least changed group of humans is from groups which are black, and live south of the Equator?

How poorly read are you?

Or do you think we are that stupid?

And when I said that paternity was unknown until recently I’m talking about recent human history 10k years ago.

See my comments supra.

And in the future never try to argue with a man twice your age and who has two advanced degrees because you’ll only look lie the irrational fool you are.

So… you are what… in excess of 90 (comparing you to me). As to your degrees… I am all atremble; mostly what I see is someone who 1: can’t structure an argument, and 2: mistakes his facts.

It’s not what you have degrees in, cupcake, but how well you argue the facts at hand. So far what you are doing is proving that credentials aren’t education.

Pecunium
8 years ago

Man… I go to work, and a house concert, and sit with my partners to watch some Rumpole and miss all the fun… because I don’t think Johnson is going to be able to hang.

Bostonian
8 years ago

So dragons be here, you’re not saying it was aliens….. but it was totally aliens!

(I love that stupid show, the orange guy kills me)

Pecunium
8 years ago

Manjaw: http://manboobz.com/2012/04/27/civilization-and-its-discontented-ladies/comment-page-4/#comment-149912

Oh my sweet lord…. Have two internets and all the freeze-dried trolls you can carry.

Pecunium
8 years ago

Oh Johnny-Pell: That was sad. Really, how hard is it to not grasp at the cheap flourish for which you were known.

It’s the ill-attended attempts at being trenchantly vicious that do you all in. You forget both that the last time you pulle this out and shat it on the rug it failed, and that it was memorable.

It doesn’t even rise to the level of Pathetic. MRAL does better than this.

Manjaw the Mighty
Manjaw the Mighty
8 years ago

“When DNA shows the least changed group of humans is from groups which are black, and live south of the Equator?”

I do not wish to be disrespectful, but research actually shows that populations in Africa have greater genetic diversity, and it is this overall greater diversity that supports the idea that those populations may be older.
Here is one study:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1288178/

DragonsBeHere
DragonsBeHere
8 years ago

Lol that orange dude cracks me up.

At nearly 14,000 years old, the ruins of Puma Punku are the oldest and most baffling on the face of the Earth. No one knows who designed and built this complex of sophisticated inter-locking blocks, and then vanished. Researchers investigate the ruins on-location in Peru and present new computer analyses. Forensic evidence on the ground, together with local myths and legends, suggest this site may have been designed and even once inhabited by a species of extraterrestrials.

Its aliens!