So someone on Reddit posted a video showing time-lapse video of a girl from infanthood to 12 years old. Naturally, Redditors responded with creepy pedophilia jokes, and one Redditor (speaking for many, judging by the numerous upvotes) took the opportunity to complain about just how hard it is for dudes to not have sex with underage girls. Apparently these girls deliberately develop earlier than boys as part of an elaborate plot to entrap guys and send them to jail.
Thanks to ShitRedditSays for pointing me to this latest bit of egregious Redditry.
It is not a problem. No, really it is not a problem that a 14 year old looks a little over 14.
What is a problem is jackasses like you who assume that all teeny boppers are somehow managing to fool old men into sex for the sheer pleasure of seeing men go to jail and that is such a crime that what? A 14 year old should be just told “well it is your own damn fault for looking so mature that this 30 year old tricked you into sex?”
Beyond creepy illiathana, its outright disgusting that some people feel their right to joke trumps a childs right to feel secure or worse, that their right to joke trumps the safety concerns for children who are targeted by men who are actually serious.
Back in 1968 or so: the professor who made a pass at 14 year old me did so at a party hosted by MY FATHER THE DEAN OF HIS COLLEGE where I was passing punch.
There was lots of hearty laughter, and my 12 year old brother was told to protect me–but nobody took it seriously.
Because, well 1968 LIFE PRE-FEMINISM (where I was).
I’d like to add that it is someones fault. Its the fault of adults who like to view and talk about children this way. Its the fault of adults who keep their mouths shut rather than tell perverts to shut up. And its the fault of society, which sexualizes children before they have any real clue as to what it all means or what they want.
@hellkell- Well, no, not with the politically correct police (otherwise known as SRS) constantly breathing down everyone’s backs. It’s obnoxious.
How misandrist to creep-shame men who are just trying to argue that they should be allowed to have sex with 12-year-olds.
It’s because they’re ugly, isn’t it?
Oh yes, because clearly two children are a competant match for a full grown man…not to insult your Dad, but shouldn’t HE have been the one protecting you?
@Pecunium:
The limerick’s a form that is fine
For those of an odd bent of mind:
Twisted, obscene
And occasionally mean
(It helps if you know how to rhyme).
Gawd, we can’t even critique misogyny without the freaking PI Police breathing down our backs!
How are we supposed to have free speech if people keep disagreeing with us?
I mean, I suppose they do call out some good stuff. But Christ, they’re not Reddit’s mother. And their attitude towards MRAs, etc. is pretty nasty. I actually feel like you could make a Shit ShitRedditSays Says about groups they don’t like. The Golden Rule- SRS fails at it.
Seriously- Reddit hates SRS. The pedo groups, the racist groups, r/beatingwomen and SRS are the dregs.
Cool. Go do it.
Find all the times that they say “racism is bad” and “sexism is bad” in a really horrifically bad way that hurts people. EXPOSE THEM TO THE WORLD.
Right. Because pedophilia hurts children, racism hurts people of color, misogyny hurts women, and opposing all of those things… HURTS EVERYONE.
Um, if you fuck a girl who looks 18, says she’s 18, and has a fake ID that says she’s 18, I’m pretty sure that doesn’t count as having a mens rea, which means you can’t get prosecuted for it anyway. Just like you can’t get prosecuted for murder if you had no idea that the shellfish would kill someone!
Oh no, the politically correct police! Say it ain’t so!
I think I actually like the existence of the term “politically correct,” because if someone uses it you automatically know his head is up his ass.
But I’m Bee!
Well, no, just kidding. I’ll change it.
You’ll fit in well here. 🙂
So…do we actually have two people commenting under the name Bee?
Two Bees or not two Bees, that is the question.
@katz
It appears so.
I shall now be known as….
BLUEBEE
Smoker: What jokes… this one
You’re ugly and no one loves you. Which got 38 total upvotes.
@Cliff Pervocracy – Again, I’m not saying this kind of thing happens all the time. But there exist mature-looking young teenagers- that is, physically mature, not emotionally. They’ll go out to a bar (where, of course, the mangina bouncers will let ‘em in), and later regret their decision.
1: Citation needed. 2: If it’s a special case (you aren’t saying it happens all the time” then what’s the problem? Exceptional circumstances are exceptional
The comments where they are explaining how to make the tools of kidnap and rape something one can explain away to the cops?
Or the guy who’s all upset about how, “jokes about pedophiles” are serious business. He seems to disagree with you about the “innocent nature of such humor”.
Of course there is the comment in the OP, which sums himself up, tl;dr girls will do anything to make you go to jail
Joke right? He didn’t mean it when he said 13 year olds are “fully developed” and can be confused with adults, so you will sleep with them and end up in trouble for an “innocent” mistake, which the girls did on purpose.
Typical woman, didn’t stop talking for 12 years.
Just a “joke” right. Harmless, like saying “all men are rapists”. No harm, no foul. Just like this reply, “You can actually see her turning into a bitch
This one might have been a joke, but it lacks context:
The girl is developing according to plan, we simply have to wait as the delicious fruit ripens. Don’t act like you can’t see the quality of the crop, we all know this will be a fine harvest.
Which is the real problem. There is no context* for the comments. Standing ex nihilo the rational person has to take them as read; barring some additional context being supplied.
And the overall context of a lot of those quotations, is sexualising the subject.
Which is creepy.
I did, actually, try to establish context for the commenters. Let’s just say the evidence is more that they were being serious than not. Like this one a guy posted in response to a self-portrait with cat</a<.You look so god damn skinny I want to pick you up have you hold on and fuck you in the air…….26 yet god damn cute.
Smoker: I’ve seen 9 year olds with like C cup boobs, and obviously it’s easy to tell at that age, but what about when she’s like 15 or 16 and her face has matured?
It’s a problem, and it’s no one’s fault, but it’s a real problem.
It’s a problem all right, and it is someone’s fault. The adult.
If you take a few minutes, you will know the person isn’t old enough to be fucking you.
For 5000 years of recorded history in virtually every diverse culture, it was normal for men to marry girls aged 13 to 16. It’s really only been the last half century or so that men have been vilified for what was considered natural and good since the dawn of time.
The feminist faith simply takes any action or drive a man has and legislates it to be a crime. To imprison men and portray men as evil just make mens natural instincts criminal.
sorry_WHAT is my favorite SRSister.
[in reference to a suicide almost certainly brought on by a false allegation of rape]
Indeed. I feel similarly about “mangina”.
Ozy: Um, if you fuck a girl who looks 18, says she’s 18, and has a fake ID that says she’s 18, I’m pretty sure that doesn’t count as having a mens rea, which means you can’t get prosecuted for it anyway.
Not all crimes require intent. Statutory rape is usually one of those (hence the term statutory). In many jurisdictions being able to prove one had a reasonable belief (usually from external circumstance) can be mitigating, or even exculpatory (e.g. a person who was a regular in a bar, where one has to be 21 to get in), but not always.
Smoker: I’m not saying it’s a good thing to have relations with underage people. I’m saying it’s difficult to tell. This is why we need a marker, or something.
We do. Lot’s of them actually. Conversation helps. If someone can talk about things in the semi-recent past as if they were aware of them at the time (right now I’d say the campaign to choose between Obama and McCain, or the financial crises of 2007/2008), odds are they are at least 18.
You could also ask them. Then you could talk about things like, I don’t know, expectations.
Those are subjects which usually give one an idea of 1: Compatibility and 2: age.
I mean, I suppose they do call out some good stuff. But Christ, they’re not Reddit’s mother. And their attitude towards MRAs, etc. is pretty nasty. I actually feel like you could make a Shit ShitRedditSays Says about groups they don’t like. The Golden Rule- SRS fails at it.
Objection, assumes facts not in evidence. You don’t know that, were the situation reversed (that SRS was saying something really nasty, they’d be all defensive about it.
I have to say, my attitude toward MRAs isn’t great. Care to know why?
Because the one’s I see, are women-hating assholes with nothing more than tired grievances about things they failed to understand when they were new (if the MRA in question is old enough to remember when Andrea Dworkin was alive). It’s retreads of myths, lies, and fables, all with the intent of forcing women back to lives of inequality and shaming feminists (male and female) into silence.
Seriously- Reddit hates SRS. The pedo groups, the racist groups, r/beatingwomen and SRS are the dregs.
Then why does it take SRS to get anyone to notice/do anything about them.
Want to convince me the MRM/MRAs aren’t willing to look the other way?
Stop looking the other way.
smoker, why do you consider sorry_WHAT a SRSer? I looked through the past nine days of sorry_WHAT’s posting history and there’s not a single posting to any SRS subreddit; most of the comments are in 2XC.