Just a little heads up for any of you in the Chicago area: I’ll be speaking at Northwestern University on Monday, as part of its annual “Sex Week.”
My topic? “How to hate women and have terrible sex: Misogynistic sex myths, and how they ruin sex for everyone.” Nice Guys, Friend Zones, and the Alpha Asshole Cock Carousel will all make appearances.
The talk will be at 8 PM in Room G02 of Annenberg Hall on the Northwestern Campus in Evanston.
(Here’s a map.)
There will be free condoms and lube. (Apparently.)
For more about sex week, see the official website, or take a look at this piece in the Daily Northwestern.
Sex week is sponsored by the College Feminists; I’m talking at the invitation of Men Against Rape and Sexual Assault.
I’ll be writing the lecture over the weekend, so please feel free to offer suggestions as to which misogynistic sex myths I should talk about.
EDITED TO ADD: The Spearhead has discovered that I’m doing this talk. W. F. Price writes about it with his usual objectivity, by which I mean that his piece is filled with lies and weird projection.
@Nanasha
“I don’t expect NWO to listen to me, but I do hope that perhaps he will understand that hatred of women is really not conducive to actually fixing things in our society.”
Well, if my previous post ever comes out of moderation, you’ll see that the hatred of men is a daily occurance by our State and media. Every single day women write countless articles about how men are either vile shit, or women are superior in every way. As if it’s hard to be superior to vile shit.
Didn’t Rush recently say something bad about one woman and the cries of a war against women ripped thru the MSM? Adverts were pulled, apologies were needed, oh how the world wept.
All across the board men are talked about and treated like shit by women and it’s no biggie. No apologies, no adverts pulled, just uproarious laughter by the empathetic ones. And lotsa funny comments by the ladies.
So when men are supposed to ostracize another man for saying something bad about a woman, yet women can’t stop casually insulting all men. That’s a problem. Have women rallied to somehow punish this daily dose of ridicule men recieve like men punish other men when they say bad stuff about women? No, women never do. Women talk a good game of altruism, compassion and sympathy, but thier actions are non-existant.
Basically you’re doing what women do. You’re manipulating the facts so women are seen as victims, when in reality they are the perpetrators of the hatred.
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In your next post you say
“Maybe he has some kind of rare hearing disorder or reading disorder that translates everything a person says to “EVIL CONSPIRACY THEORY #542″- ”
I gave you a link to big daddys law which clearly shows there’s no way a man is treated fairly in any DV dispute. He, the man, will always be the primary aggressor, the one arrested. How is that a conspiracy?
You of course resorted to the next tactic in womens arsenol of deception. Insults.
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The reason for the stereotype of women being liars and manipulators is self evident. Every woman hear has lied, manipulated and insulted with a casual air of superiority. Under no circumstances nas anyone here every reffered to women, or a woman as anything but either a victim or superior by personal example.
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Every day, every MSM outlet has at least one article ridiculing men or glorifying women above men. As long as women as a whole continue to accept and condone this behavior, things will get worse every day. Silence is consent.
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Wanna know who has all the power? One man insults one woman and it’s a war on all women. And action was immediately taken. Countless women insult all men on a daily basis and nothing happens.
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Save society you say? Why? You want it saved because all things cater to women’s whims and fancy. Other than a handful of men at the top who support feminism, the majority of men are bottom feeders. What? Will I be a bottom feeder if things go south? For most men, it’s just a step sideways. Men recieve nothing from the State so we lose nothing. Will the ladies in the MSM call men slackers and we need to man up?
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Make no mistake, the big economic crash is coming. The emperor has borrowed more trillions in three years than the last 20 years combined. The world crash is a comin. All those extra billions and trillions spent on women in taxes. All the quota’s in high paying, made up, human resource jobs which serve only to drive up the price of consumer goods. The lowering of both physical and mental standards so women can equally compete, which again drive consumer prices. Divorce court and child theft suck away mens wealth. Well, it’s time to pay the piper.
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Fourty or fifty years under womens law and the world gasps it’s last breath. Nice job ladies! Hopefully, after the ashes have been cleared the world will have learned a valuable lesson.
Sex week is sponsored by the College Feminists; I’m talking at the invitation of Men Against Rape and Sexual Assault.
I’ll be there to see you
Magdelyn called this one early, pell’s a pure troll.
Also, Mags, you were legitimately funny on this thread in my opinion.
Arks is back… and Buttman, and Luke, and NWO. Dave getting a public venue has stirred them out from under the bridge.
I’ve seen no evidence that women enjoy sex. For women, the “idea” of having sex with someone is more exciting than actually having sex with them. This is all to do with the way the female brain is wired. If you’ve ever interacted with a woman you’d know how much pleasure they get from one-upping other girls and feeding on their jealousy. So for a woman, the knowledge that an alpha male has chosen her over other women to be his personal living fleshlight is far more intoxicating than any actual physical sensation could be.
I’ve spent time with lots of women. I can say, without reservation, you are wrong in the conclusions you draw from the evidence you have collected.
I must conclude this is a methodological failure on your part.
Short version: Dude, yer doin’ it wrong!
NWO: A woman in the states, a woman in norway, a man posing as a woman = lots and lots? Perhaps my math fails me, 2 out of 3.5 billion = lots and lots? What about the MSM, the State, the education system, corporations, the UN? Not so much, huh?
You said not one. NOT ONE. There were more than one, ergo you were wrong, or as they say SNAFU.
NWO: You lying idiot: Which doesn’t come close to the rest of the gang. Golly, was I specifically mean to individuals? If you go by either of those criteria, Dave, you’d have to ban everyone of your regulars.
You aren’t banned. When other people (regulars among them) have crossed his lines, he’s moderated them.
If they persist, he keeps them in moderation.
You have persisted. You are complaining that you are being treated as everyone else is. No, you are complaining because you are being treated better than others.
You have borne false witness. You have said foul things (e.g. “Fuckdoll with a pulse”). You have persisted in both of these things.
But you, unlike some, are not banned. You are allowed to vent, to your meagre little heart’s delight. You think women should be abused, beaten, even killed. You think they ask to be raped. You would have them as slaves.
Then you say you aren’t as hateful as the people who reacted to your words by calling you a miserable piece of shit. Who here has said you deserve to be raped?
Who here has said that for being an asshole you deserve to be beaten. Who has said that if you defend yourself you deserve to be killed?
You have said all these things. You have then pretended you are a moral creature; that your profession of some magic words makes you a good Christian.
Paul says you aren’t. Jesus says you aren’t. You (and perhaps your preacher) say otherwise. I know which of those four people I am going to believe.
It’s not too late. YOu don’t have to become a feminist. You don’t even have to like “women”, but you have to stop bearing false witness. You have to start turning the other cheek. You have to love your enemies, and treat your neighbor as yourself.
It’s Easter man… this is the time. This is your chance for a real, “come to Jesus” moment. You could do it. I don’t think you will, but you could.
You might be mostly done writing by now, Dave, but how about the myth that hetero two-person sex is finished if and only if the man orgasms? The most harmful implication that comes from this myth is obviously the extremely rapey idea that once a certain sex act is consented to, that consent is irrevocable until the act is “done”, which happens when the man orgasms. Of course, most people aren’t racists and will stop when they’re asked to stop, but there will still be some sense that the person asking for the sex to stop is being terribly unfair and going back on their word. F’rex, I was fooling around with a friend once and started performing manual sex when I became very uncomfortable and said we were going to stop. He told a number of our (largely cis hetero men) friends about it, several of whom told me in private moments that it wasn’t really very nice of me to give him “half a handjob,” and if I couldn’t follow through I probably shouldn’t have been such a cock tease. 😐
The male orgasm = sex is done myth also stops people from continuing sexual activity past this point if they want to. Oops, sex is done! Can’t — say — perform oral sex on the woman now, not until the next time the man gets an erection! I’ve spoken to some men who have felt really embarrassed about how long they can usually perform PIV before they can’t control themselves anymore, and the worry that they might not get their partners off in that time. Well, fellas, penetration ain’t the be all, end all of female sexual pleasure! There are things you can do before, instead of, or after PIV that your ladyfriend might enjoy, and that you might enjoy too!
I’m not sure if this has already been said, but bring up the issue of the “strawfeminist.” Some people think all feminists are stereotypical, bra-burning, non-shaving, man-haters. It’s fuckin’ annoying.
Most people aren’t… racists? That should read, most people aren’t rapists. It would be nice if most people weren’t racists, but unfortunately I don’t really think that’s the case.
NWO let us know when you’re ready to get off the pity pot.
Ooh, here’s another myth that’s kind of related to the last one I brought up: if you’re trying to pick someone up for casual sex, there’s apparently a point at which they’re kinda sorta promising you they’ll have sex with you and, if they don’t, they’ve kinda sorta cruelly wasted your time. No one can ever tell me exactly when this happens (is it after they accept a drink from you? After you share a dance? After you make out on the dance floor? After they accompany you home? No one will fill me in!) but I’m told it’s totally clear when the line has been crossed, and all parties involved will know.
This myth isn’t really inherently misogynistic, since anybody could feel this way about any potential partner; but I’ve pretty much only heard it from men trying to sleep with women — probably because of other myths that have already been mentioned that paint men as pursuers and women as pursued, etc etc.
@pecunium
Shaming tactics? That’ll so work.
How have I borne false witness? Do tell!!!
I’ve turned the other cheek many times. I did my 77 times. You’re the one claiming I hate women. You are bearing false witness. Please show where I’ve stated, “I hate women.” If not, that makes you a liar. This site is a house of lies and hatred.
Since you’re all about the gospel all the sudden, why not tell all those fine LGBT folks to stop doing that?
Under no circumstances did Jesus ever preach tolerance. If he did, he would’ve never been crucified. You want me to love the sin as well, or at least accept and tolerate it. That’d be against everything Jesus stood for. Why would I do that?
Abused, beaten, killed, raped and slaves? My, my! That’s a lot of false witness bearing on your part. I’m quite used to it.
Just because you worship women and treat them as flawless goddesses, doesn’t mean I will.
I’m quite impressed you have an iphone with a direct link to Paul and Jesus. Is that one of the apps? Was it a pleasant chat?
Shall I buy premixed cement bags so I can repair any cracks in the pedestal you place women upon, as repentance for daring to call women imperfect. Is worshipping women a step towards heaven? If I learn to properly defer to womens authority will that help me submit to Gods authority?
I’m afraid I’ll have to pass on that woman worship thingy, it runs counter to have no other gods before me.
All worship the slutwalkers.
All worship the gays.
All worship the debauched.
All worship the whores.
All worship the transvestites.
I’m a little fuzzy on my gospel, you seem to be well versed. Was the book of tolerance a letter from John or Paul?
And let’s be honest. The only reason I’m moderated is because I won’t swear allegiance to women, the lgbt, the feminist faith and basically everything that’s unholy. Besides, didn’t you convert to Judaism?
@Viscaria
Myths, that women use sexual flirtation to get free stuff from men? Oh. OK. Yeah, like I’m a man, I know oodles of men, and guess what? Men pay.
Can we stop the bullshit denial crap. I know you’ve all seen the video of the girl milking 800 to 1200 dollars a month out of men in NYC. She and her girlfriends keep a spreadsheet so they won’t milk the same cow twice.
So ya see, when ya say women aren’t like that. It’s lip service. Go to any bar and there’ll be at least one woman there who doesn’t even have a purse, but she’s got a drink. Hell, go to a Texas steak house and there’ll be a woman at the bar with no purse and a drink.
When will you stop denying this inherent flaw in women.
Just as men have flaws that are specific to men, so do women. You have no problem pointing out mens flaws, but you’re all horrfied when a man points out your flaws. And when one of your flaws are pointed out by a man like me, the response is always, misogynist.
So many myths! Viscaria, I think I will talk about the whole “penis=sex” thing.
scarlettpipistrelle, thanks for the heads up! I did a post on it.
Damn Owly, THIS is how you celebrate Easter? I weep for you dude
Every morning when I wake up, I read the Owly digest. For a brief moment, it reminds me that women are not perfect, before such thoughts are swamped by the Gyno Prayers, in which all feminists stand on their heads in order to receive indoctrination and instructions from the giant vagina at the center of the Earth.
I must admit, the Owly Digest does have its flaws, like when he insists that he doesn’t hate women because he hasn’t said the words “I hate women,” but at the same time accuses people of thinking women are perfect when those people have not said “I think women are perfect.” I mean, isn’t that a bit of a double standard? I don’t know; I’m sure the editors of the Owly Digest know better. And I must admit I was lost today when it got into “All worship the gays,” ect.. It seemed unrelated to what came before. Maybe it’s the Digest’s poetry section?
It’s probably been said, but since my browser couldn’t deal with scrolling back through 530+ comments of Pell trollery (which was hysterical), I’d love for Dave to address the myth that women hate sex, or only want sex with “alpha males” because we bitches just want status amongst our fellow whores, or only want sex for reproduction to leech Teh Poor Menz’ hard-earned cash from them.
As an anecdote from a Random Person On the Internet, last night I, a 34 year old professional woman (rather cute, often mistaken for 27), hooked up for a one-nighter with a man who most decidedly was NOT an alpha male by the MRA’s standards. No advanced degree, just a BA in finance. Not hung like a donkey – his erection was all of five inches. He was mid-30s, a little paunchy, and starting to get a bald spot on top. But he was cute, had a great smile, smelled good, was smart and witty, made me laugh, and his kinks and fetishes matched mine. After determining we’d probably have a helluva good time together in bed, I went back to his place with him, whereupon we embarked on a three hour tour of amazing, shameless, kinky sex resulting in multiple screaming orgasms for both of us. He lent me boxers and a t-shirt to sleep in so I’d be comfortable. 7 hours later we woke up, still snuggled together, and had an hour of warm, sleepy, cuddly morning vanilla sex before climbing out of bed, sharing coffee, breakfast, and a DVRd episode of “Deadliest Catch.” I will probably call him again at some point in the near future, because the 14 hours we spent together were just that nice.
This is what happens when you treat women like human beings with thoughts, feelings, desires, and sex drives, and especially when you communicate with them openly. You have great sex that leaves everyone feeling pretty damn good.
The misogyny part is where you call it an inherent flaw in women. Someone who milks other people for money with their looks is nowhere in the same league as someone who’s had a drink bought for them. This inherent flaw is called acquisitiveness and you no more get to call it an inherent flaw in women because a few women maximize their personal potential to get stuff than you get to call it an inherent flaw in men because “LOOK, Bernie Madoff swindled people for lots of money and LOOK, you can find male thieves and con artists in every city on the planet! Now when are you going to acknowledge that men are just a bunch of thieves?”
It’s exactly that stupid.
Wow, an EASTER Troll.
Pell, you were all spiffed up and in a frilly easter bonnet, I betcha.
On parade!
Generational note: as 56 year old, I know lots of 55 year olds. Most of us don’t use LOL as casual punctuation, nor “fugly.” I call sock!
But a nice frilly Easter sock! *awards him two gold stars for entertainment value* **awards him FIVE blacks marks for creepy stalker behavior*
@David Futrelle
“So many myths! Viscaria, I think I will talk about the whole “penis=sex” thing.”
Ya mean penis in vagina doesn’t = sex? I can scarcely wait for my feminist enlightenment.
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@Tulgey Logger
“I mean, isn’t that a bit of a double standard?”
Yeah, a bit of a double standard. But since whenever any activity is brought up here, or really anything at all, everyone always a personal story, totally true of course. The story is always about women doing something much better, or being better than men at, well, everything. Kinda parallelling the MSM. Ya know, girls are better at empathy, better at firing a gun, better at parking cars, multi-tasking. Ya know, everything. And when you’re the best at everything, that’s kinda perfect.
Some double standards are 100% true. Like a guy who has sex with lotsa women is a stud, and a girl having sex with lotsa guys is easy.
For a guy to have sex with lotsa girls it’s hard, for a woman it’s easy. Take a bag lady to any high school or college and all she has to do is say, “I’m willing to have sex with a man,” and she’ll have a taker. Oh, it ain’t gonna be the star quarterback but somebody’ll do it. However, take a bum to a high school or college and have him say the same and you can guess the results.
That’s because men and women are different. From a reproductive standpoint, from which all sexuality is derived, a woman unconciously seeks the highest male on the ladder she can find due to having a finite reproductive capacity. A man on the other hand, not having that contraint, might want to get the highest woman on the ladder, but will settle for much less.
Feminists theory, as asinine that it is, would try to convince you that because of contraceptives, sex for recreation negates the entire reason why people want to, and their standards for sex. Feminists would have you believe that because of balloons, (condoms), you’re reason for having and wanting sex are seperate from reproduction.
And if a woman ever bought me a drink in a bar, I wouldn’t refuse it. It would be rude, and hey, free drink. I guess I’m just Inherently Flawed.
@Tulgey Logger
“And if a woman ever bought me a drink in a bar, I wouldn’t refuse it.”
I wouldn’t hold your breath waiting for that to happen. You’ll die.
Just in case you needed a link to the woman who actually brags about milking cash from men, here ya go.
http://blog.yourmoney.ca/2011/12/woman-goes-on-5-dates-a-week-to-score-free-meals.html
There was a video of her, I didn’t feel like looking for it. Surely theres loads of women doing the same on dating sites. So when ya say, “women aren’t like that.” It’s really just lip service once again, isn’t it? I mean, ya can’t really say women aren’t like that, when, ya know, some of them are actually bragging about it.
If ya feel industrious and find the video, she says she and her girlfriends keep spreadsheets so as not to milk the same guys twice. If men and women do have identical flaws, than one would think you could find video’s and articles of men doing the same thing. Right?
NWO!
Trufax: I didn’t say anything like that! I was talking about people assuming other people have to have sex with them after they spend enough time around one another/do certain things together etc. As it happens, some people will make out like crazy with someone at a club, or dance with them 6 times, or have a really good conversation about Game of Thrones, and then assume that person has promised them sex and feel cheated if they don’t have it. None of these things involve spending a cent!
As to whether some women go to clubs to get other people to buy them $8 drinks with promises of sweet, sweet orgasms which they fail to deliver upon (harlots!) I direct you to Tulgey Logger’s comment. I’ll also point out that every drink I’ve ever been offered from a stranger in a bar has come without me wanting it, and I’m willing to bet that a lot of the women you’re so sure are scamming men in bars aren’t wanting drinks from strangers either. By the way, what do you think I should do if someone offers me a drink, NWO? I’ve politely refused and have been called a stuck-up bitch for my troubles. I’ve accepted, had a brief conversation, and walked away; and have been called a greedy slut. I guess the only way I can be a good woman if strange people offer me beverages in bars is to accept the drink and then fuck them, regardless of if I want to or not?
I used to go clubbing in some slightly sketchy places, and I would never bring a purse. I’d stash my cash/debit/ID/keys in various places on my person, so they’d be less liable to be forgotten or stolen. I see a lot of dudes in bars without purses, are they scamming for drinks too?
Uh, no, NWO. Penis in vagina is sex. But not all sex involves penis in vagina.