Oh, boy. So that almost certainly imaginary “dude punching his spermjacking girlfriend” story in the Men’s Rights subreddit the other day? The one that inspired all those Men’s Rights Redditors to totally defend the (alleged) puncher?
Well, now Jezebel has weighed in on the subject as well. Erin Gloria Ryan raises a few questions about ineedhelpnow1234’s implausible tale, and about the dudes who not only believed it but got all enraged at the imaginary punched girlfriend:
Where does this legend of the sperm swiping madwoman come from? And why won’t it die? Why are men’s rights activists so willing to believe that in a world practically dripping with sperm, women specifically want theirs so they can be pregnant and possibly farty for 9 months, stretch their skin out, and go through childbirth in order to control the men in their lives?
Apparently, at least one Men’s Rights Redditor is a reader of Jezebel, because he went and posted a link, explaining that
I normally try to stay neutral as best I can in matters relating to the men’s rights/feminism debate, but this has me grinding my teeth.
So this is what feminists think about one of our most pressing issues.
Presumably he is referring to the extremely pressing issue of girlfriends who flee the bedroom after sex, clutching used condoms and shouting that “I’m finally going to get the baby I deserve,” and how they totally deserve to be punched in the stomach so hard it leaves a bruise.
The discussion inspired this exchange:
Oh, and this one, too:
YadaYadaYada2 certainly has a flair for the dramatic, doesn’t he?
Men’s Rights Activists, so emotional!
EDITED TO ADD: I sort of started arguing with the regulars in the comments there, and Glarfugus set me straight on the nature of my sins against the Men’s Rights subreddit:
You quoted accurately, the problem lies where you quote perfectly sound posts and talk about them like they’re ridiculous. You address punching a woman in the stomach as though it’s something of high crime. I’m not saying it’s something that’s right, but punching someone in the stomach in a panicked situation where you have a risk of being fucked by the court system for the next 18 years? Reasonable action.
I put my favorite part in bold. The stuff about punching women is pretty special too.
Fuck that, to be ‘making’ the money you’d have to not spend any on the kid.
“.. i think we all know antz is lying about his professional background, considering his ever shifting story about every other aspect of his life and personality ..”
Do you believe this with the same level of certainty that you believe in your feminist religion?
What do you believe is not true (list of 10)?
1) .. is Hispanic and speaks fluent spanish
2) .. speaks fluent portuguese
3) .. has a FOREIGN BRIDE!
4) .. has two male children
5) .. was falsely accused of DV
6) .. is a drug design scientist (21 publications)
7) .. is building a sound-based tissue nano-deposition instrument (guess why?)
8) .. is working on cause/cure for autism (hoping to present at 3rd annual Male Studies)
9) .. mom is a professional tenured academic feminist (on international tour a.t.m.)
10) .. offered as 13 year old boy-toy for feminist amusement
Be careful, Sharculese, because you never know 🙂
All of them are not true Antz.
Antz, we only have your word on it. Shit you don’t even have to be hispanic to speak spanish. You’re just an irrelevant liar.
If MRAs are really pissed about child support, they might be happy to know that I hate the current system. Of course, I’d replace it with a national tax with funds paid out to parents, but hey, at least they would know it isn’t unfair.
Which do you believe is not true (list of 10)?
1. .. Owns a superdog
2. .. Has brown eyes
3. .. Has blue eyes (not on own face)
4. .. Has several FOREIGN BRIDES, hoping none of them finds out
5. .. Was raised til the age of 19 in an MRA cult, am now on revenge mission against all MRAs
6. .. Am actually a very sophisticated tuna
7. .. Can read Spanish writing in the original Russian
8. .. Have copyrighted oxygen (have also copyrighted nitrogen)
9 .. Believe that a drug design scientist would be working on a “sound-based tissue nano-deposition instrument,” and simultaneously a cure for autism because being a scientist means you can science up anything you want
10. Once peed in the back of a bus
I AM THE MASTER OF DECEPTION I CAN MAKE SHIT UP ON THE INTERNET
While completely dodging the question of, “Would you pay $168,000 for the privilege of shitting a cantaloupe, and if so, would you consider it a brilliant money-making scheme?”
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And you believe this with the same level of certainty that you believe in your feminist religion?
Wait, what’s the 3rd Annual Male Studies? I didn’t hear about the first two.
Dude, FEMINISM DOES NOT INVOLVE GODS. We don’t put a vagina on a pussy and make sacrifices to it, we don’t pray to a goddess, we don’t pay 10% of our income to the Church of Jezebel. GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT, YO!
Oh wow… “vagina on a PEDESTAL”. 😛 Best Freudian slip ever?
@Holly Pervocracy
Why only one dot on item 10 “.”? That one is for real?
It’s OK, I once did a dooky in the front of the bus .. and again somwhere in Aachen while riding a bicycle accross Europe.
No, feminist theory has substantial evidence behind it; I have certainty in its accuracy, based on that evidence. It has predictive power, especially when you get into more advanced social theories like kyriarchy. This I actually do have certainty on.
I just don’t have any evidence that your claims are true, and therefore have no reason to believe them. That’s a much higher level of skepticism than I normally put forth for people’s stories, but yours has shifted so constantly as to be incredible (literally; not credible).
Zarat, you’ve said outright that you are dishonest when talking/posting/arguing with feminists.
You’re an admitted liar. You’re also an idiot with no reading comprehension and gullible, weak-minded dipshit to boot.
But we know you’re a liar. You told us so yourself.
AntZ, would you accept $200/month to shit a cantaloupe and care for all its (many) cantaloupey needs, and if so, would you consider it a brilliant money-making scheme?
AntZ:
If you can do the following, then I will personally grant you my belief in every single one of your claims.
Name the 21 publications that you authored, (title, year, where it was published), and provide whatever links exist to them.
“Put a vagina on a pussy,” there has to be a “yo, dog” in there somewhere.
I rarely talk about my personal convictions when it comes to God and religion but I am a theist who believes in the Christian faith. It is not, shall we say, feminist.
I do have to say, I believe you are a liar more than I believe that St. Paul actually did say such silly things.
@Rutee
“kyriarchy”? I thought that was just patriarchy on steroids. It reminds me of a bad horror flick sequel, when the bogey man from “episode 1” is no longer scarry enough, so he teams up with a buddy for episode two (then they return together for the final showdown in 3-D!)
I suppose I should not be surprised. Hollywood primes the pump of popular gullibility to turn a $10 admission into $30. Why would feminists not do the same to turn $10 billion in tax payer extorsion into $30 billion?
AntZ, you’re not answering my question.
Would you shit a cantaloupe, feed it in the middle of the night for six months, change its diapers for four years, ensure it was constantly supervised for twelve years, and eventually send it to college–fot $200/month?
Would you consider that an excellent deal?
I never knew that Jason v Freddy only had TWO movies before they became best friends in their killing sprees.
See Antz, this is why you are considered an idiot along with a liar.
I agree that it’s shitty for someone to trick someone else into parenthood they don’t want. However, I don’t think it’s possible to legislate against it. The MRA’s treat all accidental pregnancies as women tricking men, and ignore that many of those pregnancies were accidental for both parents. Birth control methods can fail, and there is a high rate of user error for many of them, especially condoms and the pill. It would be tough to prove in court that a pregnancy was intentional on the part of one parent against the wishes of the other parent.
As others have said, no the average single parent will not get a quarter of a million dollars in child support. That might happen if you have a celebrity’s baby, but not if you have a baby with an average college student like ineedhelp1234 (I am treating his story like it’s true just for the sake of argument, but think it’s about as plausible as the tales of Pecos Bill.)
Yes, I’m aware you’re an ignoramus who doesn’t try to learn anything about his enemies. Go look it up, wikipedia has a decent summary. It’s not scarier, it’s just a more complete explanation that accounts for more of the evidence; that is to say, it’s a stronger theory.
You’re going to have to do a lot better than that.
Also, Antz, you claim to have published 21 papers dealing with drug design. From that, I would be led to conclude that if you are a scientist, you are working in the field of pharmacology.
But then you claim that you are studying the causes of autism. Now, someone dealing with the causes of autism could be working in any number of fields. Like genetics or neurology or embryology. But you know what doesn’t seem like a plausible field for someone looking into the causes of autism?
Pharmacology.
You also claim to be building a “sound-based nano-depostion instrument”. I don’t really know what you mean by this (and I rather suspect you don’t either). However, that sounds like something that someone with a background in engineering or mechanics or inventing would do. Not something that a pharmacologist would do.
So while I suppose its possible that you are a genius polymath who work in pharmacology yet still has time to make earth-shaking discoveries in the realm of neurology and who also happens to be an inventor on the side . . . that seems pretty unlikely to me.
Antz would consider it an excellent deal, but only because he would cheat by making his ESPOSA EXTRANJERA do all of that lady-work for him. He’d keep the money, of course.
I just realized how bad Zarat is at trolling. Getting sunk in UWO had me fuming for 10 minutes due to the timing. He can’t even match dying in an MMO, which is a pretty low bar (Granted, a bit higher here due to but still).
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