So the other day – on the day colloquially known as “April Fools Day” – a Redditor using a throwaway account posted a most unlikely story to the Men’s Rights subreddit. Under the self-explanatory headline “My girlfriend just tried to steal a used condom to impregnate herself and is now threatening to call the police on me. PLEASE Help!” the newly minted Redditor ineedhelpnow1234 told his tale of woe.
Earlier in the day, he wrote, he and his girlfriend
had sex and I got up to go the bathroom and throw the condom out and then went back to bed. She got dressed and also went to the bathroom. I could see when she stepped out that she had something in her hand. I asked her what it was and she started yelling how she had the used condom and she was “finally going to get the baby I deserve” and then started running for [the] door.
Apparently that’s how women talk in MRA-land.
And then ineedhelpnow1234 added a rather important detail he somehow neglected to include in the headline:
I freaked out and ran after her and caught her at the door. My mind was racing, and she was about to get out. I panicked and hit her in the stomach and then took the condom forcibly from her hands.
Emphasis mine. He continued:
I’m not proud of what I did, but I was FREAKED out in the moment and she was about to escape and I just did what I thought I needed to do.
She caught her breath and left and now she’s been calling (I haven’t answered) and texting me saying she’s going to call the police and have me arrested unless I have sex with her without a condom.
Later, she allegedly left him this alleged voicemail message:
You fucking bastard, how dare you punch me for what I’m entitled to! Call me the minute you get this god damn message or I’ll call the fucking police and end your future. CALL MEEEE
Naturally, there were more than a few readers who looked at this tale – filled with credibility-straining details that seemed tailor-made to arouse MRA indignation — with a skeptical eye, and called “troll” on the whole thing. But quite a few of the locals took the story seriously, and offered serious advice.
Some simply repeated the standard dude advice “don’t stick your dick in crazy” and others, with a little more imagination, suggested that in the future he carry around hot sauce to squirt into his used condoms lest another lass try the same dastardly sperm-stealing trick.
But quite a few of the advice-givers recommended that he simply lie about his assault, and pretend it never happened. DisRuptive1 thought that simple denial would be enough to get him off the hook:
HateAllThePeople suggested that he go on the offensive:
NotC – presumably also not a lawyer – suggested that the impending threat of spermjack-blackmail would allow him to get a pass on the whole punching-her-in-the-stomach thing. But that he should lie about the incident that never took place anyway, wink wink.
Others offered their heartfelt support:
And suggested that they would have done the same thing:
One commenter had the temerity to suggest it was a tad hypocritical for all these Men’s Rightsers to suggest that a man lie to protect himself. But that commenter was quickly shot down.
Luciansolaris was one of the few who suggested the OP fess up to the assault – and defend it in court both as a logical and justifiable reaction to the situation, and as a case of temporary insanity.
I may have missed it, but I don’t think there was a single comment suggesting that, even under the circumstances, punching a girl in the stomach so hard it leaves a bruise was a terrible thing for this probably fictitious spermjackee to do.
A most revealing discussion, Men’s Rightsers.
EDITED TO ADD: ineedhelpnow1234 has returned to r/mensrights to tell everyone that 1) he’s not a troll and that 2) he was arrested. Make of it what you will.
Miaminice, I’m getting drunk tonight in your honor. Not even kidding.
Oh, just fuck right off, Miaminice. I don’t even know why you’re here.
On behalf of all the former addicts in my life, most of whom are doing great now, no thanks to assbags like you, FUCK YOU.
Hey guys, I’m selling a bridge! Any takers?
Translated Miaminice: MY ARGUMENTS ARE SUCH BULLSHIT THAT I CAN’T EVEN OWN THEM. CLICK THESE LINKS!
I own them. The fact is that you’re a complete ignoramus who screams in caps and won’t bother to look at a source that might contradicts your pov.
There’s also the different ways in which we socialize men and women. The way a family’s financial troubles are seen as a man lacking in manhood.
Substance abuse can be a contributing factor, but it’s usually just part of the background picture.
So I’m taking antidepressants as prescribed to me by my doctor, and I’m taking the measured dosage once per day at the same time each day as described.
And I’m addicted! If I skip a day or two by mistake, I feel miserable and sick and shaky and irritable! I’m SATAN!
Miaminice: Knowing addicts who were shitty people does not give you the right to declare all addicts to be the scum of the earth. Go fuck yourself.
Estimated time to meltdown for Miaminice: 6 hours
I’ll buy your bridge, Lauralot! Unfortunately, I only have a cheque for $2000 more than the bridge is worth. How’s this: I’ll send you the cheque, you send me the difference and the bridge!
Katz, I’ll say 3, if the hammering keeps up.
Oh, the fucking irony.
Hey idiot: I saw your sources. They’re bullshit, and so are you. Now kindly die in a fire.
Wow, there’s some shit logic if I ever heard it.
@Miaminice
I addressed the issue with your links here: http://manboobz.com/2012/04/03/mens-rights-redditors-defend-a-guy-who-says-he-punched-his-sperm-stealing-girlfriend/comment-page-3/#comment-141744
Really? That’s what you’re going with? “I don’t need to address your argument because you’re a stupid-head, I CAN’T HEAR YOU LA LA LA”?
That’s so boring. If you must troll, please troll better.
Viscara, that sounds perfectly acceptable. By the way, guys, I have a very important warning to pass on about Mentos and Diet Coke. DON’T try them together. That’s how that kid from those cereal commercials died.
“Then we should all be felons, because we’ve all been affected by most of these issues.”
Then why aren’t all addicts felons?
Also, even if you’re right, your approach is crap. Telling addicts they’re brain-damaged monsters who might be serial killers is no way to help them. You’re not going to motivate anyone to recover that way, you’re just going to feel really superior to people who are still addicted and now feel even more isolated and self-hating.
Lauralot, I thought what killed them was Pop-Rocks and Pepsi.
lauralot, did you hear that great Bill Clinton joke?
FYI everybody, the only way to ensure there is no violence ever is for everyone to live in a bubble off of water and gruel and never have any contact with anyone ever. I’ve invented the human bubbles. I’ll link you a YouTube video I have supporting the human bubble. It’s in elvish, but I can translate for you.
@Katz: Gosh, I’m not sure! I’ve heard so many.
@hellkell: I thought the Pop-Rocks and Pepsi were what made Marilyn Manson lose an eye and replace it with one of his testicles? Was that before or after he had a set of ribs removed so he could auto-fellate?
I am a bit on the morbid side and read a lot about serial killers, one of the things that is mentioned is frequent substance abuse. Never read anything that conclusively links substance abuse to the actual killing though because I think the substance abuse is used to NOT kill more than it is used TO kill. But that is merely my impression and it is worth the paper it is written on. (In other words, I am probably 100% totally and utterly wrong and am okay with admitting that. Especially since I never have done any research or studies.)
Also, if you wanna get REAL fucked up, you should pop a tylenol/panadol with coke!
Miaminice doesn’t have to deal with Shadow’s criticisms BECAUSE.
Also, Miaminice doesn’t seem to differentiate addictions to heroin, crack, caffeine, nicotine, Xanax, etc. It’s just ADDICTION y’all.
DON’T READ THIS You guys, I’m really sorry to have to do this, but if I don’t pass this message along on at least five websites, then a heron will fly into my kitchen at midnight and make a mess of my pots and pans. And if you’ve read this, the same will happen to you if you don’t pass it on!
Yeah, if you factor caffeine addiction into the picture, half of America are probably serial killers.
This one time my grandma didn’t get her coffee and then I had to help her hide some bodies behind the playhouse. She gave me fifty cents and ice cream for it!