Another day, another threat – sorry, prediction – of impending violence towards women from someone on The Spearhead. This time from a fellow called James, in his twenties:
The OLDER MEN simply do not understand what it is like to be a young man today.
I will say one thing though- a very big percent of young men of my generation do not believe in this feminism or white knight bullshit, and they have very little tolerance towards it.
Older men will allow themselves to get ass raped in divorce courts, but the younger men of my generation have no such tolerance.
So if the younger women think they are going to treat the younger men with the same level of hatred that the older women do to the older men, they have a big surprise waiting for them.
1. Either the men will just entirely boycott the younger women
or
2. They will actively fight for their rights, even with force, if it requires it
What I mean by that is, the younger generation of men are much more violent than the older generation. So in plain English, if women think they are going to treat the younger generation of men like shit, then we are going to see a huge increase in violence against women.
In short, the men of my generation are not as willing to tolerate the abuse from man hating women as the older men are. Young women would be very wise to take note of this.
Unfair quote-mining on my part? Not exactly. James got 72 upvotes for this bit of wisdom on The Spearhead, and only 8 downvotes.
Meanwhile, our old friend at the Pro-Male/Anti-Feminist Technology blog highlighted James’ comment in a post of his own, quoting the whole thing, and adding his own spin:
The younger you go on average you will find less tolerance for anything pro-female. This is not surprising. Even looking at my own life, I have been dealing with feminism since I was in elementary school especially if we define feminism correctly as feminine-ism. I remember (female) teachers being pro-female and anti-male going back to first grade. As bad as I had it, it is worse for men younger than me. They’re not going to listen to lies about how women are oppressed because all they have seen with their own eyes are the opposite. …
By 2020 the balance between men who are currently old vs. men who are currently young will have shifted. There will be less old men who remember life pre-feminism. There will be more young men who have spent their entire lives under the feminist jack boot. There will be more men who are completely fed up with women. Around 2020 there will be a lot more men willing to take radical direct action against feminism.
“Radical direct action against feminism?” What does this mean? Generalized violence against women, as James seems to suggest? Firebombing police stations and courthouses, as MRA “martyr” Tom Ball urged in his manifesto? Like most of those in the Men’s Rights movement who like to talk ominously about what they hope will be a massive anti-feminist backlash, the PMAFT blogger is vague about what exactly this might entail. But it’s not hard to connect the dots here.
Protip: MRAs, if you don’t want people to see the Men’s Rights movement as a hate movement — you need to stop posting, stop upvoting, stop even tolerating this kind of hateful shit.
Katz, you may steal it. I stole it from Sars over at Tomato Nation.
Why don’t you take your own advice and really feminist hate has come back to bite it in the ass, so you may want to face that fact your hate has brought hate upon you. Not that I hate you this is the net and you really don’t matter.
Rutee – My bad. And an even stupider argument now.
Not that it matters, because something tells me Caution isn’t here to promote services for homeless men.
Feminists condone violence against men? How?
Feminists force fathers out of their children’s lives? How?
Oh, and you’ve misread or misunderstood the FBI’s definition of rape. Quelle surprise! That’s okay. Some intelligent people did too. Here. I’ll break it down for you.
First of all, most obviously, men have anuses. (Don’t they?) So the FBI’s definition of rape does not exclude men as victims.
But here’s where people much, much, much brighter than you also misunderstood the definition (I would argue): It does not specify whether the person doing the penetration is the victim or the rapist.
Anyway, either way, it’s a vast improvement over the old definition, and in any case, it’s only used for gathering and analyzing statistics, so “enforcement” = a report. Not a prison sentence.
Caution, is English your first language? If it is, please stop abusing it, it did nothing to you.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
You say all these words but all I hear is ARGLE BARGLE KILL ALL THE WIMMENZ.
Fun fact with rape stats, no one has been able to do an acurate report on how many men and boys are raped by women or men since most remain to afraid or ashamed to do so. Not to mention it was feminists that said 99% of rapist are men. Despite all the women raping boys in their care and getting nods for it
On homeless queer youth: http://www.americanprogress.org/issues/2010/06/pdf/lgbtyouthhomelessness.pdf Studies on this matter are pretty consistent, queer kids make up disproportionate amounts of homeless youth, some estimates are as high as 40%, though that may vary based on location. In addition, trans people are homeless at double the national rate, for latino trans people, it’s five times the rate, for native american eight times the rate, for black people thirteen times the rate. http://www.thetaskforce.org/downloads/reports/reports/ntds_full.pdf
Studies on race and homelessness find very disproportionate numbers of people of color among the homeless as well http://www.unh.edu/sociology/media/pdfs-journal2008/Spadaro-Bliss3EDITED.pdf
About 40% of homeless populations are under 18, and there has been some suggestions that this population is increasing.
Gender composition of men vs. women and homelessness is largely unknown. Male dominated populations are overstudied, female dominated populations of homeless are understudied. So you end up with reports like the 2007 U.S. Conference of Mayors that found that 76% of studies had focused on single homeless adults. They found that in families, 65% of individuals were female, and that in single adults, about 67% were male. The fact that women’s domestic abuse shelters are not included in federal and state data reports further increases likelihood of undercounting. And, if a study uses being turned away from a shelter as the indicator of unsheltered, you run into the problem that most cities have far more beds for men than for women (see, for example, the court’s analysis of number of beds in Community House, Inc. v. City of Boise, 490 F.3d 1041, 1044 n. 2 (9th Cir.2007) ) and homeless women are likely to be aware of this. In addition, it is well established that homeless women are more likely than homeless men to be accompanied by children, and homeless people accompanied by children are typically not included in single adult homelessness statistics. Also, the habit of doing homelessness studies in urban areas may result in undercounting of women, as what studies are available on rural and suburban homelessness suggest even among single adults, women are more represented in those locations than in urban ones. Some people have also suggested that women are more likely to “double up” in welfare hotels and other forms of temporary housing, meaning that homeless women often allow other homeless women to stay with them in their temporary spaces, increasing their likelihood of being missed when it comes to most methods of counting the unsheltered. Also, homeless sex workers, a group that is often more women than men, are known to spend the night at a house or motel with a client, which can increase difficulty in studying these populations.
this is something you made up, fyi
Wow… you know, personally I’d just like to have less homeless people. I’m not sure one gender “dominates” here.
How are women on the lower end of poverty when they make up a majority of higher educated and employed Ruttee? Tell me why are 90% of homless veterans men? And the DSC still states the 76% of the homeless population is male. fucking morons
yeah, it’s not like women have traditionally been barred from combat or anything. it’s almost like the majority of veterans in general are male or something
dave i don’t think you understand the critical importance of punishing women to ending homelessness
It’s still rather funny to me that caution chose homelessness as his fake area of concern and then attacked two women who had been homeless. It’s proof fucking positive that his concern regarding homelessness has nothing to do with the actual homeless, and everything to do with grasping at straws to try and find some way to attack feminists and to attack women.
If a woman is living in a domestic violence shelter than she isn’t really homeless those places offer job training and section 8 housing options to women. Hell SAVE service is trying to extend the section8 housing to men and boys that are homosexual or just fleeing an abusive partner
Because women need more education to get paid in the same neighborhood as a man with less of it, and it’s usually still less.
Well, for starters this can fall prey to the same problems general counting of the homeless does, and for second, because men make up higher proportions of those in the military.
you type all these words and all I see LOL “Menz baad rabble rabble rabble kill da menz for not doing azz da femminshts say!”
That was awesome!
Are you familiar with homeless shelters at all?
It’s rather refreshing to see someone who’s so upfront about their disingenuity.
Ruttee the wage gap is because women tend not to do overtime and men still tend to die on the job even if its white collar. I read in the paper that a man died in his office on friday and his wife thought he left her, until the janitor found him. Men in countries like sweden transfer their paid paternaty leave over to their wives.
WHAT? OH WAIT, I FORGOT THAT YOU NEVER KNOW EVEN THE SLIGHTEST BIT WTF YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT. PLEASE CONTINUE SPOUTING UTTER NONSENSE.
Pretty sure caution has hit the NWO ratio.
So yes. Looked it up. He said he killed himself (shot himself on the courthouse steps in 2002) because he lost a family court case on overdue child support. Nothing to do with being forced out of his kids’ lives or being a victim of DV.
Fun fact: No rape report is wholly accurate because many rape victims think that rape is shameful, so lots of them don’t report it. That is fun, huh? What are you doing to change that, Caution?
There were a grand total of 4,547 deaths at the workplace in the entire US in 2010. http://www.bls.gov/iif/
I love how obviously false caution’s hyperbole is.