Another day, another threat – sorry, prediction – of impending violence towards women from someone on The Spearhead. This time from a fellow called James, in his twenties:
The OLDER MEN simply do not understand what it is like to be a young man today.
I will say one thing though- a very big percent of young men of my generation do not believe in this feminism or white knight bullshit, and they have very little tolerance towards it.
Older men will allow themselves to get ass raped in divorce courts, but the younger men of my generation have no such tolerance.
So if the younger women think they are going to treat the younger men with the same level of hatred that the older women do to the older men, they have a big surprise waiting for them.
1. Either the men will just entirely boycott the younger women
or
2. They will actively fight for their rights, even with force, if it requires it
What I mean by that is, the younger generation of men are much more violent than the older generation. So in plain English, if women think they are going to treat the younger generation of men like shit, then we are going to see a huge increase in violence against women.
In short, the men of my generation are not as willing to tolerate the abuse from man hating women as the older men are. Young women would be very wise to take note of this.
Unfair quote-mining on my part? Not exactly. James got 72 upvotes for this bit of wisdom on The Spearhead, and only 8 downvotes.
Meanwhile, our old friend at the Pro-Male/Anti-Feminist Technology blog highlighted James’ comment in a post of his own, quoting the whole thing, and adding his own spin:
The younger you go on average you will find less tolerance for anything pro-female. This is not surprising. Even looking at my own life, I have been dealing with feminism since I was in elementary school especially if we define feminism correctly as feminine-ism. I remember (female) teachers being pro-female and anti-male going back to first grade. As bad as I had it, it is worse for men younger than me. They’re not going to listen to lies about how women are oppressed because all they have seen with their own eyes are the opposite. …
By 2020 the balance between men who are currently old vs. men who are currently young will have shifted. There will be less old men who remember life pre-feminism. There will be more young men who have spent their entire lives under the feminist jack boot. There will be more men who are completely fed up with women. Around 2020 there will be a lot more men willing to take radical direct action against feminism.
“Radical direct action against feminism?” What does this mean? Generalized violence against women, as James seems to suggest? Firebombing police stations and courthouses, as MRA “martyr” Tom Ball urged in his manifesto? Like most of those in the Men’s Rights movement who like to talk ominously about what they hope will be a massive anti-feminist backlash, the PMAFT blogger is vague about what exactly this might entail. But it’s not hard to connect the dots here.
Protip: MRAs, if you don’t want people to see the Men’s Rights movement as a hate movement — you need to stop posting, stop upvoting, stop even tolerating this kind of hateful shit.
Okay, I hate hate hate this Ritalin thing, and I’ve seen people better-meaning than AntZ buy into it.
(For the record, by the way, Ritalin is Schedule II. The schedules are legal classifications, not medical or chemical ones, so saying it’s “similar to cocaine and PCP” is meaningless anyway.)
My boyfriend is on horse-killing dosages of Adderall. This does not making him a zombie. This does not make him emasculated. It gives him the energy (because Ritalin is a stimulant) to think clearly. It’s something he takes voluntarily because he feels uncomfortably fidgety and foggy without it. I’ve been with him when he was unmedicated for a week; severe-ADD-symptoms-Rowdy is not “the real Rowdy” and he’s not “a boy being a boy.” He’s a guy with a mental illness, one that impairs his ability to work and study and socialize, and one that he wants to treat.
i like to draw owls
Oh, and AntZ, I’m pretty sure I’ve mentioned this before, but I take ADD medication. I’ve cycled through just about every kind of ADD medication there is since elementary school.
I’m a feminist cis-women. WOMEN ARE PRESCRIBED RITALIN, TOO!
Didn’t Susan Walsh write some crap manifesto that feeds into AntZ paranoid narrative here? Maybe she’s one of his inspirations. She’s one of Bill Marr’s. Idiocracy indeed.
@Holly
I’ve heard a lot about the over-prescription of Ritalin and Adderall from all sorts of people, including medical professionals, but they are all from older generations. I’ve always wondered if it’s not just that we’re getting better at diagnosing shit, and meds are more available.
Shadow – I think Ritalin has been over-prescribed, but I don’t think it follows that it’s made kids into obedient little zombies. Just that there are kids on stimulants they don’t need.
…I also really don’t get the connection to drawing tanks. Ritalin’s just going to make the kid draw more detailed and properly shaded tanks.
Well, the most egregiously pointless giant gaping hole is in Episode Wuhh
Episode Wuhh
heh
Episode Wuhh
…dammit. The one with Darth Maul oww my head
But there are effectively giant gaping holes under lightsaber duels in every one but Star Wars, wherein it’s a giant gaping hole underneath a blaster duel, and I can’t remember about Episode Twuhh.
In that one Episode they up the ante by filling the giant pointless gaping hole with lava.
No you guys it’s because our girl-focused schools expect kids to sit down and listen quietly, which is MISANDRY.
I lol’d
actual examples? (and no medication is not violence nor is it feminist)
Um Ritalin to help with mental problems like adhd. Unless its masculine to have difficulties concentrating?
The son of your FOREIGN WIFE?
Or else WHAT, James? You’ll type more violent words on the internet?
Just fine, AntZ, primarily because I don’t believe a word you say.
Translated Antz: I HATE WOMEN AND WANT THEM TO BE FORCIBLY SEPARATED FROM MEN, INCLUDING MY FOREIGN BRIDE AND THE MOTHER OF MY CHILDREN. YOU’RE THE BIGOTS.
I hate the chemical cauterization of manly cholesterol by feminist statins. BIGOTS!
I used to work in a first grade classroom as a teacher’s assistant. Near President’s Day, we read them a kid’s book on Lincoln that made no mention of his assassination. Then the teacher (a woman!) had the kids draw a picture and write a couple of sentences about what they would do if they were president (they were all in favor of the redistribution of wealth, along with puppies and ice cream), and she promised that she’d put the pictures around the room when they were done. Well, one kid (a boy! a white boy!), who was also one of the smartest kids in that class, drew a highly detailed picture of Lincoln’s assassination, but with a sniper rifle, complete with scope, instead of whatever Booth used. The bullet hadn’t yet hit Lincoln’s head, but it was definitely heading there.
Rather than insisting on drugs, the teacher and I merely giggled over it, and then I did my best to kind of hide it a bit when I put it on the wall, because we promised the kids, but I didn’t think it would be a good idea to prominently display such a picture.
Granted, there was a kid who was put onto medication when I think she would’ve benefitted more from a stable home life and some therapy. But I’m not an expert, so my opinion means nil, and she was a very poor black girl, so…
When I was in 7th grade I was put on Ritalin for a time to see if it would help my performance in school. It didn’t, so I was no longer given Ritalin.
The Ultimate Feminist Penalty works in mysterious ways, I guess.
Or maybe the effect of the drug is to make you think you’re no longer taking it? Sort of like that one episode of Futurama where Bender goes in to get a compatibility upgrade so he no longer hates the newer-model robots and goes into an extended fantasy sequence.
DOWN THE RABBIT HOLE MAN
THIS MRM ATTACK DOG STUFF IS TRIPPY
I don’t think there really is one, except AntZ thought what do little boys like to draw?, came up with tanks!, and then filled in the details about wimminz who won’t let boys be boys.
Forcing boys into gender roles and sex-segregating toys is a good thing, dammit!
/sarcasm
also, Antz, if the “ultimate feminist penalty” was that school suggested that your son be put on Ritalin you may want to consider getting him checked out by a psychologist and not ranting about the evil skoolmarm misandrists. If he has untreated ADD it could make his life a huge pain in the ass, and by that I mean do everything from cause him to fail classes to make it more likely he gets into a traffic accident when he learns to drive. Seriously, this is a time when you need to put your conspiracy beliefs down because they are interfering with your ability to care for your child.
Keep going, Antz! You’re almost on par with NWO. Just don’t forget to add something about communists and VAWA.
Tank!
http://youtu.be/fuvbY0aWmIo
Don’t forget the Title IX rant, AntZ!
@Holly
Aaah, so similar to the autism issue then?
@Falconer
OHHH! I misread your comment like a dumbass and kept trying to remember giant holes in the lightsabers. I somewhat remember that from ep1 (I walked out in the middle of ep2 and didn’t even bother with 3). Mostly I just remember a lot of jumping in the obi wan-darth maul fight.
My best friend has been on adderall since early childhoond. She’s a cis female btw. When she’s not on it she bounces off the walls (literally, she ran out of pills and the pharmacy hadn’t filled her prescription and she sat there ramming herself into the wall while waiting for the prescription to be filled. I absolutely think that there are children being prescribed ADHD meds who don’t need them as a way of trying to get children to be obedient, but this happens to both boys and girls alike, and most of the people on those drugs are on them because they have an actual mental disorder. TL;DR antz is full of shit
@Ritalin/Drugs for kids
As a parent, aren’t you legally in charge or accepting or denying treatment for your child? A teacher cannot put your kid on Ritalin or other drugs. Neither can the doctor mandate you to do so. Only you as the parent can make that decision until the child comes of age and is allowed to make legal medical decisions for him/herself.
Plus, I find it hard to believe that a kid got in trouble for simply drawing a tank. But if he drew a tank running over certain classmates, that’s often a sign that there’s something else going on (bullying ,etc) and having a school being interested in nipping that kind of behavior in the bud (especially since many boys do not feel safe telling parents or teachers about being bullied due to strict masculine gender roles that punish boys for being “weak” or asking for help), so in some cases, bringing up the picture as a possible problem could actually help start a dialogue to HELP YOUR CHILD DEAL WITH HIS FEELINGS OR POSSIBLE BULLYING.
My husband grew up being teased, ganged up on, and bullied. He’s easily the biggest, tallest, most manly guy you’ve ever seen- he just doesn’t believe that violence is the right way to solve problems. And before anyone goes “ZOMG FEMALE TEACHURZ HAET BOYS” he went to an all-boys Catholic school through the end of high school. When he addressed the bullying with the (male) teachers, he was ignored or told to suck it up. When he tried to get his dad to help him (his father stayed home while his mom worked), his father just encouraged him to “beat up” the other boys and use stupid comeback insults (which don’t fucking work).
Eventually, his father pushed him onto the football team (which he hated and quit as soon as he could) and the bullying mostly stopped- but he still dealt with an incredibly hostile environment that was largely male with very little infrastructure to tolerate non-stereotypical male gender roles and behaviors.
After he took a class at the junior college in the summer and met me, we talked a lot about how horribly unfair and damaging all of this was and eventually he was able to take his proficiency exam and go to college early so as to get out of the toxic high school environment. But honestly, I would just have to say that for many, many males out there who just don’t want to fall into the gender role bullshit of being “a strong, violent man” in the pecking order, who want the choice and freedom to be true individuals who don’t feel forced to buy into gendered behaviors and machismo just to survive, and I want a world where all boys and girls (and those who are trans, gender queer, etc) can feel safe expressing what it means to be THEMSELVES without fear of retribution from either peers or the adults in their lives.
So Antz, would you up vote or down vote James? Serious question.
i would like to know more about this pro-puppy agenda