Hey, you remember that thing the other day, when A Voice for Men’s second banana JohntheOther said some awful things about evil feminist atheist Rebecca Watson because she made a joke at a conference and he didn’t realize it was a joke?
And then he said he didn’t realize it was a joke, even though she explicitly revealed it was a joke in the video of hers he said he watched ? And so then he tried to pretend explain that he hadn’t watched the whole video, even though he had clearly downloaded the whole thing and incorporated parts of it in his video?
Well, now it turns out that some of the parts of her video he used in his video, well, they included the bit where she revealed the joke. Only – OOPS! – John just happened to edit that part out.
Unsophisticated folks might conclude from this that JohntheOther is a lying liar who lies about his lies. And that maybe he should henceforth be known as JohntheLiar.
But no. Apparently, as JoththetotallynotaLiar explains in a new video, he was just so, so convinced that Rebecca was a mean evil sociopath that he just didn’t realize what she was saying! He basically thought she was babbling nonsense, making a complete non-sequitur, so he cut it out of his video.
I mean, a feminist making a joke? Instead of being a mean evil sociopath? Beep Boop does not compute! His complete inability to understand the words that were coming out of her mouth? That was just good old confirmation bias at work, he explains in the video.That’s his actual explanation: he’s not a liar, just someone — to phrase it a bit more bluntly than he is willing to — who is so blinded by his own ideology that he cannot tell that a joke is a joke, even when someone announces that it is a joke.
He goes on to explain that it would be “illogical” to conclude that he is a liar because, come on, who would lie so blatantly, knowing that they would be caught?
And then he eats a baby.
Oops! My bad! I watched the video again, and it turns out he does not in fact eat a baby. Instead, at this point in the video, he apologizes to Watson for calling her a sociopath. I blame confirmation bias for causing me to misinterpret the video at this point. The apology seemed like a total non-sequitur to me, so naturally I saw it as him eating a baby.
In reality, what happens is that he apologizes to Watson, and then he eats a baby.
Here’s the video.
Oops! Mea culpa! Here’s the video, for reals:
EDITED TO ADD: It turns out that after eating the baby apologizing to Watson for calling her a sociopath in the video, John told one of the commenters that he still thinks she’s a sociopath. So his apology wasn’t really much of an apology after all, was it? It wasn’t even a “sorry if you were offended” fauxpology. Since he was apologizing for saying something that he still believes and that he went on to repeat, it’s really more of a liepology.
who ACTUALLY gives a shit , it’s like watching a playground spat. try writing about something interesting.
*scratches head*
That’s so patently implausible it might even be the correct explanation. Which is sad: feminist says something straightforward, MRA cannot believe something so plainly spoken which would conflict with his delusional version of reality and what ebil feminazis are like, so he interprets it as senseless babbling. Riiiiiiiight.
“Why would I do that knowing that the original one is there?”
Because your MRA buddies will still eat your shit up even in the face of overwhelming evidence that you’re wrong. And from the comments, it looks like they still think Rebecca Watson is a sociopath.
I believe him, he really was that blind and stupid. If that’s an actual apology, and not a notpology, (I can’t listen at work) then hurrah for him. But I fully expect him to go right back to his usual mode of slime/lie/propaganda/hate immediately, because he won’t change. I doubt he’s capable of it. In a day or two, “everything” will point to him being “right”, after all.
I believe it. ALWAYS eating babies, those MRAs,
It’s a fauxpology.
In the comment section, one user writes:
“well, I still believe she is a sociopath….”
John replies:
“me too, but shhhhhhh”
They really, really, can’t wrap their brains around the idea that a woman might have opinions of her own, and not agree with them, can they? So simple, yet so far out of reach of their comprehension.
Well to be fair to John, Rebecca DID express her disapproval of a man once. She did express that a man had made her uncomfortable…so… yeah.
Also.
Guess what happened with that elevator gate thing? The men that got mad thought that she was trying to make a dating rule for all men and women, because they are sexist, and they thought she was speaking for all women because…they are sexist.
No matter how you slice that shit sandwich that was the fallout from elevatorgate, it is a sexist shit sandwich.
Idiots go around in comment sections on you tube saying, “I don’t see how ANYONE can defend her at this point.”… WAT? Defend what? That she should be able to say what creeped her out with out all of the blgoosphere exploding and Richard Dawkins trying to lampoon her as a ladyboob? And subsequently people calling her a sociopath because during a comedy video they had their BIAS confirmed?
YEAH.
“Well, she didn’t do it, but it sure sounded like something she might have done! So I’m still right!”
I still think this is all backlash from that time she horribly murdered a man in an elevator and then told his family and all his friends he was a rapist, or however exactly that went down.
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Ok, I’ve been doing this, “you dumbass” or like insults in several of my posts now, I referred to Tom as an utter moron, and I’ve dropped an F bomb on joe, I’m pretty sure.
So I will reign it in. Just wanted folks to know that I’m aware. I need to stay classy San Diego.
And Watson gets all of this shit just for saying “Guys, don’t do that.”
We live in feminist gynocracy indeed.
Actually, no. If anything it proves without a doubt how power logic works. Men (and those who sympathize/identify with men) are the dominant group. When another group like women starts rising up and challenging the assumptions that keep the dominant group in power the dominant group has hysterical fantasies and sees the world in a completely warped way because they fear losing their power.
Very clever dude.
I really hate that some people (mostly on Youtube) consider him a “moderate MRA.” He’s anything but. He’s the guy who once said that if he came upon a rape in progress, he would not stop to help and would walk right on by. And he dares call Rebecca a “sociopath?!”
This is hilarious. With every youtube video he makes, he just digs the hole deeper and deeper. Each explanation is more implausible than the one before. What a tangled web we weave when first we practice to deceive.
I also wonder when the MRA’s will finally drop their hate crush for Watson. For crying out loud, it’s time for them to move on.
Wait wait! HOLD UP!
MRAs eat babies?
*looks at crispy fried infant with orange sauce*
…I thought eating babies was something only feminists did…..
*slinks off to hand in her feminazi badge and become vegetarian*
I can clear that up Zombie, he’s a “moderate” because when some MRAs are asked why they don’t care about gay men’s rights, the MRAs answer… “because those aren’t real men”. JTO is for LGBT rights and issues and all that.
Also…come on you know you tube, he hates all the “right” people.
JTO has not changed one bit. It’s not like he suddenly got all nuts. However, people on you tube are more into acting like they’re in a gang than in doing the right thing or caring about issues. It really is a cesspool, MRAs thrive, but I’m glad that FINALLY people that (are considered) feminists are going to be surfing the wave of popular opinion back out.
JTO and the MRAs on you tube that are much more popular and say worse…ie barbarossaaa, who was the original “walk by a rape victim” guy that John was parroting… get thousands of views hundreds of upratings, none down usually if I go take a peek. But this wonderful group of atheist “skeptics” are so upright that they made sure if you search for two radical feminists names on the site hundreds, hundreds, unless people have taken some down… videos come up against these women, for basically manufactured bullshit. That is why I was on their side. They did nothing out of the ordinary of any other jerk on you tube, but you tube is sexist and they make a big stink out of anything. It’s a site of bigoted bullies that like to pretend they are for equality, which is why there are hundreds of videos against one or two women instead of barbarossaa that says why do women ruin everything they touch? and worse.
So yeah, for you tube, he’s a moderate because you tube is a cesspool.
@Holly
I think Rebecca Watson actually set a man on fire as he was sleeping in an elevator, and then got an award from it from Hillary Clinton (after Hillary had finished savagely beating Bill). Or am I confusing that with another thread?
So wow, JohntheLiar eats babies? I’ve now seen the video. Proof!
I think this needs to be brought up every time he complains that sending an assistant on too many errands is the worst possible sociopathy.
He is? Would you have a link for that?
JohntheLiar turned me into a newt.
You may now throw tomatoes at me for making the obvious Monty Python reference.
When people say “sorry you were offended,” that’s a fauxpology.
Since John “apologized” for calling Watson a sociopath, then immediately went and called her that again, I think it’s fair to call what he did a “liepology.”
“…I still think this is all backlash from that time she horribly murdered a man in an elevator and then told his family and all his friends he was a rapist, or however exactly that went down…”
Funny you should say that. Apparently, it’s not unprecedented:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2117641/Businesswoman-killed-workmate-used-semen-brothel-make-look-shed-raped-murdered.html
And she got 22 years.
If that case was on CSI, I would think… hmph, tv!
There should be some show on that, it’s an amazing story.
OH LOOK A TOTALLY UNRELATED EVENT
Elevatorgate was disgusting. I followed it at Pharyngula as best I could, but stopped when I started yelling at my screen as I was reading the comments. I’ll never understand why Watson has been so demonized.