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Highlights of Tom Martin’s recent visit to Man Boobz. KEYWORDS: London School of Economics, Lawsuit, Tossed Out, Whore.

In fact, the correct figure is 97 percent.

The other day we met an MRA named Tom Martin, who filed an “anti-male discrimination” suit against the London School of Economics, only to have his case thrown out of court by a deeply unimpressed judge.

After I blogged about this, Mr. Martin showed up here to offer some commentary on his case, and on matters of wider import. As a public service of sorts, I would like to present to you all some selected highlights from his comments here, in case you didn’t have the time to read through the entire 1000+ comment thread that ensued. And even those who did make it through the comments will no doubt be pleased to be reminded of some of their favorite Tom Martin bon mots.

In case anyone suffers from the delusion that Mr. Martin actually is some sort of egalitarian, these comments should clarify matters for you.

And yes, it has been confirmed via email that this is the real Tom Martin commenting. Accept no substitutes!

The word of the day is: whore.

Are you sitting comfortably? Then let’s begin. These are in chronological order; each title links to the full comment in context.

The Misandrist Chair Conspiracy:

One year prior to joining the university, when visiting its library, I did complain, that the seating being hard created a greater disadvantage for men than for women, as men have considerably smaller weight-bearing buttock pads than women, and men are heavier too – so for men, on average heavier than women, have more weight bearing down onto a pad which is approximately four times smaller than women’s on average – according to a BBC documentary on the subject.

The Misandrist Chair Conspiracy 2: Misandrist Boogaloo

The EHRC actually agreed with me, that hard chairs are inappropriate for a library, as they impact men more. When we consider that only 2 out of 5 degrees go to men, the gender gap widening, then anything we can do to make men more comfortable taking the academic route, the better.

Given that higher educational attainment increases life expectancy for men, and given that increased educational attainment in men also decreases their violence against women among other things.

Too bad, ladies – he’s taken!

Anti-male shaming tactics are always used at the point of losing an argument, Hellkell.

When someone asks me “What sort of woman would go out with a men’s rights activist?” I reply “the sort of woman who isn’t a whore.”

Tom Martin’s 14 Point Anti-Prostitute Program:

Some of you want to know why I think prostitution is bad.

1. Sex is only ever any good when it is based on mutual attraction.

2. Charging for sex excludes men who cannot afford it, thus heightening male-on-male competition for money, which generates the conditions for war.

3. Prostitutes spend so long being pounded on, without orgasm, that it causes a condition akin to ‘blue balls’ in men – I think it’s referred to as ‘pelvic block’ in women, but has other names too, where veins in the female pelvic region become over-pressurized, causing pain and swelling. In some cases, an operation is required to release the pressure. You will see it in some porn stars. Their rectum will look swollen, and the tissue either side of the vaginal area too.

4. Prostitutes spend so long on the job, it stops them making better use of their lives. It hinders their emotional and intellectual development.

5. Prostitutes express more misandry than the average woman. Being a prostitute is misandry-inducing, or perhaps misandrists are more likely to choose prostitution, but either way, prostitution correlates with misandry – and misandry is bad, as it perpetuates fear or mistrust of men, which perpetuates sex segregation, which perpetuates male-on-male competition, which increases brain capacity for aggression (in both sexes), whilst decreasing brain capacity for empathy and higher thought.

6. Prostitution is an aggregate sex segregation, as prostitutes take themselves out of the free association and free sex zone, and wait for paying customers – and though paying customers and prostitutes are not sex-segregating whilst having sex, she quickly has to get him out to do the next customer, so there is less organic natural association between the sexes throughout the course of the day – and the association which does take place is fake or bought, rather than free association.

7. Prostitutes are boring.

8. There is no Nobel Prize for services to prostitution for a reason.

9. Gold-diggers are more stupid than average women.

10. Housewives are more fascistic than average women.

11. Economically inactive female model societies are more fascistic than normal societies.

12. Men associating with prostitutes or economically inactive gold-digger housewhores etc are more fascistic than average men.

13. Prostitution was the historic norm, and civilizations have less prostitution as they advance, so less prostitution probably related to advancement.

14. Less prostitutional sex-segregated societies produce better more balanced ratio of women to men (more women), causing men to make more sensible, less rash or flashy spending decisions.

I’m sure there are many more related reasons I could go into, about why prostitution is bad.

I think it should be fully legalized, but that these women should pay the highest rate of tax, and be first draft in any military conscription.

He’s writing a book!

I do have a book, on the way, based on some experimental psychology I’m conducting. As soon as I put this gender studies industry out of its misery, I’ll let you know.

Fems: It’s time to renounce your whoredom!

I’m asking feminists in particular to renounce prostitution in all its forms. …

It is my estimation, that as little as 3% of women have actually made a conscious decision to treat men as equals, never expect any money from men, and actively promote more egalitarian gender roles (rather than begrudgingly suffer them), by celebrating the less worky roles afforded men. …

From a straight male perspective, the potential mate pool is quite full of hypergamous gold-diggers and prostitutes, the stand up egalitarian women few and far between, so yes, not only should women renounce prostitution in all its forms, but they should buy the T shirt or get the tattoo as well or something.

Just like it being polite to inform someone first if you have a social disease, you should inform someone first if you are a gold-digger/whore/housewife wannabe etc.

But then, there are a lot of women who swear blind they’re not whores who are – so some kind of renouncement on their part, where they’re putting a bit of heart into it, might be in order. Maybe an fMRI lie detecting brain scan certificate to show you’ve passed the test.

But if fems just want to go with “I can’t believe you think women are whores. How misogynistic” then its really falling well short of the mark – given women’s woeful track record in this department so far.

So come on then, who is going to be the first to renounce prostitution in all its forms?

At least Rosa Parks got a seat:

Be honest, you’re not sitting on a hard seat right now, so why should you when you’re in a library?

My position was vindicated by the authorities taking it seriously at the time. …

They also put a three piece couch and seats into the library after my successful complaint,

so I am actually very pleased about that, and you suck….

[I]n Saudi Arabia, two men have to vacate a bus seat for one woman. …

So, we all know who Rosa Parks was. The black person who didn’t want to sit at the back of the bus – and quite right too, but at least she got a seat.

But when it is men being forced out of their seats, and by economically inactive Saudi whores – professional whore feminists just laugh it off or make BS excuses.

Scum.

Saudi Arabia: A Whorish Matriarchy

In many ways, Saudi Arabian men are probably the most discriminated against men in the world.

Firstly, it costs more for a Saudi Arabian men to marry than for any for other men in the world on average (in relative to national average earnings).

Secondly, Saudi Arabian women are the laziest whores in the world, with just 22% of them in even a part-time job (and that 22% figure bolstered by the foreign women shipped in to do certain work).

Thirdly, Islamic law says what a man earns, he must share, but what his wife earns, she can keep. …

[O]n balance, given Saudi men are doing all the hard work, not only should Saudi women be giving up their seats to Saudi men if anything, victim-feminists should be ashamed of themselves for portraying Saudi women as the uniquely oppressed class. Far from it.

Saudi Arabia is an advanced country, where the female population is highly educated. Saudi scientists are among the best in the world. Saudi doctors successfully separated conjoined twins at the head – both twins living – but that same scientific community has so far been unable to separate Saudi Arabian women’s enormous asses from their couches. There is a way though. When Saudi men learn to stop giving women money and gifts, the women will have no choice but to rise up, get a job, demand driving licenses, etc.

Saudi women just laugh at patriarchy theory. They know they’re lazy whores pulling all strings. Saudi men on the other hand, have never had their issues addressed, and are very receptive to change.

Islamic states are whoriarchies – which neither men or women would want to be associated with, once they’ve had it properly explained.

Did I explain already that Muslim women are whores?

Muslim women are quids in the whores.

Their civilizations are down the pan, but as long as they’ve got one over on the men, they don’t seem to give a shit.

I would totally take my anti-Muslim-whore crusade to the streets, but Muslim women are too scary:

[I]f Muslim women want Muslim men to change the laws, then they can simply order their husbands or suitors to do this.

Similarly, they could order their husbands to vote for full female voting rights. …

I would be standing on a street corner in some Muslim land explaining it, but that would be too risky for my personal safety, or any man’s personal safety. It is easier for women to rise up without getting shot than for men, on gender politics issues.

Nevertheless, I will be translating my experiments’ findings and book into Arabic.

All those people who say I’m “whoring” by asking for donations to my legal fighting fund, are missing the point

Whore whore whore whore:

“Whoriarchy” is not a perfect term, but a more accurate description of the state of affairs on gender relations everywhere than “patriarchy” – and a lot less glamorous. …

Professional feminists are whores. This includes David Futrelle. His job is not to reflect accurately, but mock, so he is a delaying gatekeeper, attempting to exclude men’s equality debates, by making misleading representations about the men’s rights movement’s core values and goals.

We need a word for women who aren’t whores:

[C]urrently, to my knowledge, there is no word in the English language, for a woman who is not a whore. For a woman who has rejected all forms of prostitution.

“Independent” – okay, could mean “has a job”, but not specific enough. I mean Beyonce claims to be an “Independent” woman, but then she also wants men to pay her telephone bills, and put a ring on it – so, no. If Beyonce has a job, it’s as a prostitute.

“Egalitarian” – too general. Sounds like she’s weighing up whoring options equally.

“Feminist” – too much gold-digging of government resources, and sucking cocks for money, so no.

Women who have chosen to have nothing to do with prostitution in any of its forms should not even have to mention the word when describing their awesome credentials, and credo. Most women are prostitutes to some extent, so ‘woman’ doesn’t do it either for the time being.

We need a new word…

Ladies, make yourself useful!

Ladies, you have had expensive educations, surpassing men’s in duration. Your parents assisted you more with university fees than they did their sons. The jobs market is set up to positively discriminate in your favour if you’ll only put the effort in. Men are willing to do more childcare if you will only stop complaining about them not doing it right etc, and actually transfer the parental leave to them. Men have put men on the moon. All you need to do, is express some breast milk and get it into the fridge so you can return to your glorious careers and create or invent us all something useful. Please don’t invent us any more cupcakes though. …

The human race needs you to put down the crockery, and make a proper contribution to the advancement of civilization. Feminism’s “glass ceiling” story is the metaphorical glass ball and chain excuse for defeatism and inertia required for you never to have to leave the kitchen. We have microwave meals now – go and make yourselves a tad more useful.

March of the Penguin Whores:

Female penguins are whores

Not ALL women are whores:

For the record, I would never claim all women are whores. I’d put it at around the 97% mark in my estimation – so back off, haters.

What do we want! To inconvenience whores! When do we want it? Now!

Liberating men involves mildly inconveniencing whores. It’s a win/win.

Ladies! Stop being whores and invent something.

There is a limit to just how un-whorey you need to get. Once you’ve hit zero, then you’re at your target whoring level, of not being a whore. Move on. File a patent. Write a joke. Find a cure for something. Not being a whore isn’t a vocation in and of itself. “And the Nobel Prize for not being a whore goes to… .”

9 out of 10 patents are awarded to men, and yet in factual media, men are portrayed positively only 1 time out of 10. Don’t be one of those media douches pretending men aren’t anything other than freaking awesome.

Tom Martin: Boy Inventor

I have invented something, and am working on prototypes.

I have previously sought a patent application for another invention.

And I’ve built lots of things too.

I’ve also made daisy chains.

My cat made a hairball, but you don’t see her bragging about that.

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Lady Zombie
Lady Zombie
12 years ago

I also smell the stench of Ayn Rand in this guy.

Shadow
Shadow
12 years ago

@Cassandra

Or could it be that all of this, including trolling the LSE and the court system, is just an attempt to make money without having to work, for it? The obsession with calling other people whores does rather point in that direction.

Tom has already conclusively debunked this in the other thread (possibly in a response to you, I can’t quite remember). You see, as a result of his lawsuit he now has to pay 37000 quid to LSE, so there’s clearly NO WAY he could have filed this lawsuit to make money. Really, logic is clearly on his side here

Joe
Joe
12 years ago

He confirmed it in an email? How? “Oh hi, I’m the real Tom Martin who is trolling you? 4realz.”

Unless he sent a photo of himself holding up a card saying e.g. “Oi! Manboobz! I am the real Tom Martin!” or something, I don’t buy it.

Not that I’m hugely bothered.

Anyway. You should totally read Maggie. The word whore takes on a whole new meaning after you’ve read a few of her essays. Enlightening stuff.

Joe
Joe
12 years ago

37grand??? O.o Fuuuuuuuuuuuu….

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
12 years ago

Stop being so lazy, Joe – if you bothered to look around you’d find the comment in which David explains how Tom confirmed his identity. Again, sorry to burst your bubble – I know it stings to realize just how ridiculous Tom is, given that you admire him and all.

@ Shadow

Hey, I said that he was money-grubbing, not that he was smart.

Shadow
Shadow
12 years ago

@Joe

No, he emailed David from an account that Tom Martin has used in other accounts (including youtube, if I’m not mistaken)

Anyway. You should totally read Maggie. The word whore takes on a whole new meaning after you’ve read a few of her essays. Enlightening stuff.

If you’ve been following Tom, I think you’ll find that there’s no way that she can even touch him when it comes to giving the word whore a new meaning

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
12 years ago

Unless Maggie is proposing a meaning of “whore” that includes “12 year old virgin who wants a nice boyfriend some day” and “woman in Saudi Arabia who can’t get a job from which she is legally barred by the country she lives in”, then I’m afraid that Tom wins the battle of “how to redefine whoredom in the most unique manner”.

Xanthë
12 years ago

Joe,

Tom Martin regularly turns up like a bad ha’penny on threads which quote his name, since he has some sort of Google alert that lets him know when and where people are talking about him.

His ravings on this thread are utterly of a piece with his earlier statements on Cath Elliot’s and Ophelia Benson’s blogs.

Those views are also exactly the same sort of thing that you find on his Twitter, his YouTube, and his website, which are all linked to one another.

It’s definitely the same guy.

jumbofish
12 years ago

Anyway. You should totally read Maggie. The word whore takes on a whole new meaning after you’ve read a few of her essays. Enlightening stuff.

Its one thing if you want to reclaim a word (which isn’t new stuff) and another thing to force other people to reclaim it. Most people here aren’t sex workers, he is calling them “whores” to insult them not to accurate describe them. I’m not sure reading her thing will really “enlighten me” to be ok with him ranting about how evil “whores” are and how we all are “whores”.

MollyRen (@MollyRen)
12 years ago

He confirmed it in an email? How? “Oh hi, I’m the real Tom Martin who is trolling you? 4realz.”

Unless he sent a photo of himself holding up a card saying e.g. “Oi! Manboobz! I am the real Tom Martin!” or something, I don’t buy it.

Not that I’m hugely bothered.

What amazes me is that, having seen Tom’s actual site, Joe’s convinced it’s not the real guy. How was the original site so much more wonderful? o.O He goes on about chairs there too!

Shadow
Shadow
12 years ago

@Cassandra

Filing the lawsuit in the first place was not smart. Trying to use the judge’s decision as proof that he wasn’t in it for the money, that deserves a brand new term with his picture as a definition. He really does put the tom in tomfoolery.

LexieDi
LexieDi
12 years ago

I just LOVE how this guy’s apparently gone to college and doesn’t know a damn thing about… anything.

Women in the Middle East are such whores what with female genital mutilation and honor killings. (It nearly made me sick to write that.)

MollyRen (@MollyRen)
12 years ago

Isn’t Maggie “Mags”? Doesn’t she already comment on Manboobz a lot? Or am I getting our trolls confused?

jumbofish
12 years ago

I thought so too molly but I think its someone else

p'bee
p'bee
12 years ago

I’m wondering how someone who thinks women control Saudi Arabia is even capable of tying their own shoelaces, let alone getting into a Master’s program at LSE.

Ruby Hypatia
Ruby Hypatia
12 years ago

He’s conducting experiments in psychology? Does he have a degree in psychology?

pillowinhell
pillowinhell
12 years ago

I’m sorry, but what’s supposed to be so mind blowing about the honest courtesan?

Crumbelievable
Crumbelievable
12 years ago

He confirmed it in an email? How? “Oh hi, I’m the real Tom Martin who is trolling you? 4realz.”

Unless he sent a photo of himself holding up a card saying e.g. “Oi! Manboobz! I am the real Tom Martin!” or something, I don’t buy it.

Tom sent Futrelle an email using the same address posted on Martin’s website.

Also, all this bullshit about women being whores is exactly what Tom Martin was saying on Youtube under the account “SexismBusters” which is run by him.

pillowinhell
pillowinhell
12 years ago

Also Joe, I believe we have several regulars here who are/have been involved in sex worker activism or other social justice issues where they would likely be aware of sex worker issues. So again, what’s so mind blowing?

Maya
Maya
12 years ago

Oh, it’s not an MRA site. Although Maggie does describe herself as an archeo-feminist (as opposed to a gender-feminist) so your minds may still be blown. I accept no responsibility for any fracturing of world views. Enter at your own risk.

Oh you silly MRAs. You blabber so much about being daring radicals who are challenging social norms and fracturing world views people are brainwashed in believing. How cute.

But in reality it is you who is the conformist. You appeal to ingrained social norms instead of working to dispel them. Perhaps you are too cowardly and dishonest to admit that it is your worldview that is flawed and needs to be fractured.

I also smell the stench of Ayn Rand in this guy.

Nothing like a randroid! Daring radical indeed!

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
12 years ago

Poor Tom, he’s trying so hard to be all radical and explode people’s worldviews, but he doesn’t quite understand that in order for that to work their worldviews would have to be as narrow as his to start with. What, you mean that there are a range of different ideas within the sex workers rights movement? And some sex workers have blogs? My mind, truly it is blown. Next you’ll be telling me that some sex workers have unions!

pillowinhell
pillowinhell
12 years ago

I mean geez Joe, you don’t think feminists actually know sex workers? I know quite a few in the area I live in, women and men.

pillowinhell
pillowinhell
12 years ago

Maybe its her disdain for feminists that’s supposed to be so mind blowing? I mean, its not like we encounter that anywhere else right?

thebewilderness
12 years ago

I’m going with malignant narcissist doing some serious projecting.

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
12 years ago

I meant Joe in that last comment, not Tom. Curse you, flu medication!

I’ve actually known quite a few sex workers over the years. Oddly enough, they don’t all agree on much of anything, given that they’re real people with personalities and varying political views and all.