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Highlights of Tom Martin’s recent visit to Man Boobz. KEYWORDS: London School of Economics, Lawsuit, Tossed Out, Whore.

In fact, the correct figure is 97 percent.

The other day we met an MRA named Tom Martin, who filed an “anti-male discrimination” suit against the London School of Economics, only to have his case thrown out of court by a deeply unimpressed judge.

After I blogged about this, Mr. Martin showed up here to offer some commentary on his case, and on matters of wider import. As a public service of sorts, I would like to present to you all some selected highlights from his comments here, in case you didn’t have the time to read through the entire 1000+ comment thread that ensued. And even those who did make it through the comments will no doubt be pleased to be reminded of some of their favorite Tom Martin bon mots.

In case anyone suffers from the delusion that Mr. Martin actually is some sort of egalitarian, these comments should clarify matters for you.

And yes, it has been confirmed via email that this is the real Tom Martin commenting. Accept no substitutes!

The word of the day is: whore.

Are you sitting comfortably? Then let’s begin. These are in chronological order; each title links to the full comment in context.

The Misandrist Chair Conspiracy:

One year prior to joining the university, when visiting its library, I did complain, that the seating being hard created a greater disadvantage for men than for women, as men have considerably smaller weight-bearing buttock pads than women, and men are heavier too – so for men, on average heavier than women, have more weight bearing down onto a pad which is approximately four times smaller than women’s on average – according to a BBC documentary on the subject.

The Misandrist Chair Conspiracy 2: Misandrist Boogaloo

The EHRC actually agreed with me, that hard chairs are inappropriate for a library, as they impact men more. When we consider that only 2 out of 5 degrees go to men, the gender gap widening, then anything we can do to make men more comfortable taking the academic route, the better.

Given that higher educational attainment increases life expectancy for men, and given that increased educational attainment in men also decreases their violence against women among other things.

Too bad, ladies – he’s taken!

Anti-male shaming tactics are always used at the point of losing an argument, Hellkell.

When someone asks me “What sort of woman would go out with a men’s rights activist?” I reply “the sort of woman who isn’t a whore.”

Tom Martin’s 14 Point Anti-Prostitute Program:

Some of you want to know why I think prostitution is bad.

1. Sex is only ever any good when it is based on mutual attraction.

2. Charging for sex excludes men who cannot afford it, thus heightening male-on-male competition for money, which generates the conditions for war.

3. Prostitutes spend so long being pounded on, without orgasm, that it causes a condition akin to ‘blue balls’ in men – I think it’s referred to as ‘pelvic block’ in women, but has other names too, where veins in the female pelvic region become over-pressurized, causing pain and swelling. In some cases, an operation is required to release the pressure. You will see it in some porn stars. Their rectum will look swollen, and the tissue either side of the vaginal area too.

4. Prostitutes spend so long on the job, it stops them making better use of their lives. It hinders their emotional and intellectual development.

5. Prostitutes express more misandry than the average woman. Being a prostitute is misandry-inducing, or perhaps misandrists are more likely to choose prostitution, but either way, prostitution correlates with misandry – and misandry is bad, as it perpetuates fear or mistrust of men, which perpetuates sex segregation, which perpetuates male-on-male competition, which increases brain capacity for aggression (in both sexes), whilst decreasing brain capacity for empathy and higher thought.

6. Prostitution is an aggregate sex segregation, as prostitutes take themselves out of the free association and free sex zone, and wait for paying customers – and though paying customers and prostitutes are not sex-segregating whilst having sex, she quickly has to get him out to do the next customer, so there is less organic natural association between the sexes throughout the course of the day – and the association which does take place is fake or bought, rather than free association.

7. Prostitutes are boring.

8. There is no Nobel Prize for services to prostitution for a reason.

9. Gold-diggers are more stupid than average women.

10. Housewives are more fascistic than average women.

11. Economically inactive female model societies are more fascistic than normal societies.

12. Men associating with prostitutes or economically inactive gold-digger housewhores etc are more fascistic than average men.

13. Prostitution was the historic norm, and civilizations have less prostitution as they advance, so less prostitution probably related to advancement.

14. Less prostitutional sex-segregated societies produce better more balanced ratio of women to men (more women), causing men to make more sensible, less rash or flashy spending decisions.

I’m sure there are many more related reasons I could go into, about why prostitution is bad.

I think it should be fully legalized, but that these women should pay the highest rate of tax, and be first draft in any military conscription.

He’s writing a book!

I do have a book, on the way, based on some experimental psychology I’m conducting. As soon as I put this gender studies industry out of its misery, I’ll let you know.

Fems: It’s time to renounce your whoredom!

I’m asking feminists in particular to renounce prostitution in all its forms. …

It is my estimation, that as little as 3% of women have actually made a conscious decision to treat men as equals, never expect any money from men, and actively promote more egalitarian gender roles (rather than begrudgingly suffer them), by celebrating the less worky roles afforded men. …

From a straight male perspective, the potential mate pool is quite full of hypergamous gold-diggers and prostitutes, the stand up egalitarian women few and far between, so yes, not only should women renounce prostitution in all its forms, but they should buy the T shirt or get the tattoo as well or something.

Just like it being polite to inform someone first if you have a social disease, you should inform someone first if you are a gold-digger/whore/housewife wannabe etc.

But then, there are a lot of women who swear blind they’re not whores who are – so some kind of renouncement on their part, where they’re putting a bit of heart into it, might be in order. Maybe an fMRI lie detecting brain scan certificate to show you’ve passed the test.

But if fems just want to go with “I can’t believe you think women are whores. How misogynistic” then its really falling well short of the mark – given women’s woeful track record in this department so far.

So come on then, who is going to be the first to renounce prostitution in all its forms?

At least Rosa Parks got a seat:

Be honest, you’re not sitting on a hard seat right now, so why should you when you’re in a library?

My position was vindicated by the authorities taking it seriously at the time. …

They also put a three piece couch and seats into the library after my successful complaint,

so I am actually very pleased about that, and you suck….

[I]n Saudi Arabia, two men have to vacate a bus seat for one woman. …

So, we all know who Rosa Parks was. The black person who didn’t want to sit at the back of the bus – and quite right too, but at least she got a seat.

But when it is men being forced out of their seats, and by economically inactive Saudi whores – professional whore feminists just laugh it off or make BS excuses.

Scum.

Saudi Arabia: A Whorish Matriarchy

In many ways, Saudi Arabian men are probably the most discriminated against men in the world.

Firstly, it costs more for a Saudi Arabian men to marry than for any for other men in the world on average (in relative to national average earnings).

Secondly, Saudi Arabian women are the laziest whores in the world, with just 22% of them in even a part-time job (and that 22% figure bolstered by the foreign women shipped in to do certain work).

Thirdly, Islamic law says what a man earns, he must share, but what his wife earns, she can keep. …

[O]n balance, given Saudi men are doing all the hard work, not only should Saudi women be giving up their seats to Saudi men if anything, victim-feminists should be ashamed of themselves for portraying Saudi women as the uniquely oppressed class. Far from it.

Saudi Arabia is an advanced country, where the female population is highly educated. Saudi scientists are among the best in the world. Saudi doctors successfully separated conjoined twins at the head – both twins living – but that same scientific community has so far been unable to separate Saudi Arabian women’s enormous asses from their couches. There is a way though. When Saudi men learn to stop giving women money and gifts, the women will have no choice but to rise up, get a job, demand driving licenses, etc.

Saudi women just laugh at patriarchy theory. They know they’re lazy whores pulling all strings. Saudi men on the other hand, have never had their issues addressed, and are very receptive to change.

Islamic states are whoriarchies – which neither men or women would want to be associated with, once they’ve had it properly explained.

Did I explain already that Muslim women are whores?

Muslim women are quids in the whores.

Their civilizations are down the pan, but as long as they’ve got one over on the men, they don’t seem to give a shit.

I would totally take my anti-Muslim-whore crusade to the streets, but Muslim women are too scary:

[I]f Muslim women want Muslim men to change the laws, then they can simply order their husbands or suitors to do this.

Similarly, they could order their husbands to vote for full female voting rights. …

I would be standing on a street corner in some Muslim land explaining it, but that would be too risky for my personal safety, or any man’s personal safety. It is easier for women to rise up without getting shot than for men, on gender politics issues.

Nevertheless, I will be translating my experiments’ findings and book into Arabic.

All those people who say I’m “whoring” by asking for donations to my legal fighting fund, are missing the point

Whore whore whore whore:

“Whoriarchy” is not a perfect term, but a more accurate description of the state of affairs on gender relations everywhere than “patriarchy” – and a lot less glamorous. …

Professional feminists are whores. This includes David Futrelle. His job is not to reflect accurately, but mock, so he is a delaying gatekeeper, attempting to exclude men’s equality debates, by making misleading representations about the men’s rights movement’s core values and goals.

We need a word for women who aren’t whores:

[C]urrently, to my knowledge, there is no word in the English language, for a woman who is not a whore. For a woman who has rejected all forms of prostitution.

“Independent” – okay, could mean “has a job”, but not specific enough. I mean Beyonce claims to be an “Independent” woman, but then she also wants men to pay her telephone bills, and put a ring on it – so, no. If Beyonce has a job, it’s as a prostitute.

“Egalitarian” – too general. Sounds like she’s weighing up whoring options equally.

“Feminist” – too much gold-digging of government resources, and sucking cocks for money, so no.

Women who have chosen to have nothing to do with prostitution in any of its forms should not even have to mention the word when describing their awesome credentials, and credo. Most women are prostitutes to some extent, so ‘woman’ doesn’t do it either for the time being.

We need a new word…

Ladies, make yourself useful!

Ladies, you have had expensive educations, surpassing men’s in duration. Your parents assisted you more with university fees than they did their sons. The jobs market is set up to positively discriminate in your favour if you’ll only put the effort in. Men are willing to do more childcare if you will only stop complaining about them not doing it right etc, and actually transfer the parental leave to them. Men have put men on the moon. All you need to do, is express some breast milk and get it into the fridge so you can return to your glorious careers and create or invent us all something useful. Please don’t invent us any more cupcakes though. …

The human race needs you to put down the crockery, and make a proper contribution to the advancement of civilization. Feminism’s “glass ceiling” story is the metaphorical glass ball and chain excuse for defeatism and inertia required for you never to have to leave the kitchen. We have microwave meals now – go and make yourselves a tad more useful.

March of the Penguin Whores:

Female penguins are whores

Not ALL women are whores:

For the record, I would never claim all women are whores. I’d put it at around the 97% mark in my estimation – so back off, haters.

What do we want! To inconvenience whores! When do we want it? Now!

Liberating men involves mildly inconveniencing whores. It’s a win/win.

Ladies! Stop being whores and invent something.

There is a limit to just how un-whorey you need to get. Once you’ve hit zero, then you’re at your target whoring level, of not being a whore. Move on. File a patent. Write a joke. Find a cure for something. Not being a whore isn’t a vocation in and of itself. “And the Nobel Prize for not being a whore goes to… .”

9 out of 10 patents are awarded to men, and yet in factual media, men are portrayed positively only 1 time out of 10. Don’t be one of those media douches pretending men aren’t anything other than freaking awesome.

Tom Martin: Boy Inventor

I have invented something, and am working on prototypes.

I have previously sought a patent application for another invention.

And I’ve built lots of things too.

I’ve also made daisy chains.

My cat made a hairball, but you don’t see her bragging about that.

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Holly Pervocracy
9 years ago

KEYWORDS: Whore, Whore, Whore, Whore.

FTFY

jumbofish
9 years ago

good old old tom XD

Holly Pervocracy
9 years ago

And to recap:

According to Tom Martin, the following are all “whores”:

1. A woman who has sex for money.
2. A woman who receives anything from anyone ever.
3. A woman who tells men what she wants.
4. A woman who complains about anything.
5. A woman or a man who does not support Tom Martin’s idea of “equality.”
6. A woman Tom Martin doesn’t like.
7. A woman who hasn’t patented anything.
8. A Muslim woman.
9. A woman who allows men to lead her.
10. A woman who participates in the oppression of women.
11. A woman who doesn’t think gender studies should include men’s issues.
12. A woman waiting for the right man before she has sex.
13. A girl in an arranged marriage.

Rachel Swirsky
Rachel Swirsky
9 years ago

That was… I think I’m generally fairly innoculated to this kind of bullshit, but that floored me. What a royal asshat.

Graham
9 years ago

I honestly cannot wait for his book.

Xeginy
9 years ago

Charging for sex excludes men who cannot afford it, thus heightening male-on-male competition for money, which generates the conditions for war.

Charging for food excludes those who cannot afford it, thus heightening person-on-person competition for money, which generates the conditions for war.

Charging for water excludes those who cannot afford it, thus heightening person-on-person competition for money, which generates the conditions for war.

Charging for clothes excludes those who cannot afford it, thus heightening person-on-person competition for money, which generates the conditions for war.

Charging for cocaine excludes those who cannot afford it, thus heightening person-on-person competition for money, which generates the conditions for war.

Yes, it’s called a currency system. Get used to it, cause it’s gonna be sticking around for a long time.

hellkell
hellkell
9 years ago

I wonder how many times the word WHORE showed up in that thread. Gotta be some kind of record.

pillowinhell
9 years ago

Holly, thankyou for your recap. I’m surprised that David did not make mention of it in the post, as it nicely sums up Toms thinking.

How often do threads hit 1000 posts?

darksidecat
9 years ago

@Xeginy, I’m a socialist. Depriving people of food, water, shelter, etc. because they can’t pay? That absolutely is a social injustice and unethical cruelty.

Not that Martin wants an end to capitalism and labor exploitation. Quite the contrary, he thinks that only certain forms of wage labor are valuable, and that jobs traditionally done by women are useless (fuck childcare, in house work, piece work, elder care, etc.) and should be socially scorned as well as unrenumerated.

Dani Alexis
Dani Alexis
9 years ago

This includes David Futrelle… making misleading representations about the men’s rights movement’s core values and goals.

Yeah, David! How dare you quote MRAers verbatim, when they discuss the core values and goals of the MRM! Don’t you know it’s misleading to quote people directly?

You know, like I just whoringly whored out this whorishly misleading whorequote from Tom Martin, right here. (Whore.)

Temporary Name
Temporary Name
9 years ago

Those whorrible quotes had me reeling back in whorror. To clear my mind, I’m going to go practice some whorticulture in my garden.

Magnesium
Magnesium
9 years ago

7. Prostitutes are boring.

Now allow me to write a ten page essay about prostitutes and my feelings about prostitutes and how I spend 99%* of my life thinking about and discussing prostitutes.

*According to a Harvard study that I can’t find but it’s out there somewhere.

Maya
Maya
9 years ago

Seems we’ve found another hideous clown. Meller isn’t the only one.

Zeckenschwarm
Zeckenschwarm
9 years ago

@hellkell:

In the quotes on this page alone:
19x “whore”
3x “whoring”
2x “whoriarchy” xD
1x “whorey”

Kyrie
Kyrie
9 years ago

Holly, you forgot “housewife”, “gold digger” and possibly “women who can’t reach orgasm”.

Crum
Crum
9 years ago

What is the source of that awful drawing?

Crumbelievable
Crumbelievable
9 years ago

What is that awful drawing from?

Crumbelievable
Crumbelievable
9 years ago

Oops, I tried to go back since I’d put in my name incorrectly.

Lady Zombie
Lady Zombie
9 years ago

Does this guy not understand how exchange economies work?

Xanthë
9 years ago

Then there’s the monumental Dunning-Kruger effect of bringing a fatally flawed lawsuit against a University and not hiring a lawyer to represent him. Or did every lawyer you meet tell you, there’s no possibility of winning and every likelihood of costs being awarded against you, so when will we get paid for our work? £37,000 later, I suppose Tom’s answer is that the entire legal system supports the Whoriarchy, and all judges, magistrates, barristers, and solicitors are whores.

mayfly
mayfly
9 years ago

How the heck did this guy get accepted into the London School of Economics? His grammar is terrible, his reasoning skills are abysmal, and his “arguments” seem to consist of wildly unsupported claims and schoolyard insults.

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
9 years ago

Actually I wonder if LSE only admitted him because something in the application tipped them off that if they didn’t admit him he might file a discrimination lawsuit against them. Nothing about his writing indicates that he’d meet the admission standards, that’s for sure.

boxofcrates
boxofcrates
9 years ago

That was… remarkable. He just… everyone who disagrees with him is a whore, it seems. Anyone who doesn’t… I don’t know… live completely independent of other people is a whore. Everyone on earth is.

There are more whores in heaven and earth, Horatio, then are dreamt of in your philosophy.

Heh… Whore-atio.

Sorry.

Ithiliana
9 years ago

Clearly, the word of the day is “whore.”

However, and it might just be me, I find that when Tom Martin addresses us as “ladies,” it is equally insulting.

abeegoesbuzz
abeegoesbuzz
9 years ago

Not that I am a university admissions officer, but if I were, I would totally admit anyone who wrote an essay describing how penguins are whores.

Also, I would assume they were joking, because how could they not be?

Crum: That’s a real US Army ad (except for the banner at the bottom) from 1944. For realsies! What, did you think women weren’t always whores?

I’ve been meaning to do this for a while …

$MONEY$

Amnesia
Amnesia
9 years ago

Behold! I made a Mad Libs!

5. _____ express more _____ than the average _____. Being a _____ is _____-inducing, or perhaps _____ are more likely to choose _____, but either way, _____ correlates with _____ – and _____ is bad, as it perpetuates fear or mistrust of _____, which perpetuates _____ segregation, which perpetuates _____-on-male competition, which increases brain capacity for aggression (in both _____), whilst decreasing _____ capacity for empathy and _____ thought.

6. _____ is an aggregate _____ segregation, as _____ take themselves out of the free _____ and free _____ zone, and wait for paying _____ – and though paying _____ and _____ are not _____-segregating whilst having _____, she quickly has to get him out to do the next _____, so there is less organic natural _____ between the _____ throughout the course of the day – and the _____ which does take place is fake or bought, rather than free _____.

Really, I see nothing else that can be done with opinions like Tom Martin’s.

katz
9 years ago

His book shall be called Whorton Hears a Who.

Carrie
9 years ago

I think someone has been watching one too many episodes of Married…With Children.

pillowinhell
9 years ago

Shouldn’t it be Whoreton hears a HO?

pillowinhell
9 years ago

I dunno, I think the recap post lacks the full flavored body of his bullshit. That could just be due to having him whoring around on the thread the past couple days.

pillowinhell
9 years ago

I think we need to teach Tom some new curse words other than whore…perhaps that will help?

Xeginy
9 years ago

@darksidecat: the point I was trying to make is that Martin seems to think that charging money for sex is wrong because of [reasons that don’t make sense] but charging money for everything else is apparently just fine, as he’s given no indication that he’s given no indication that he has a problem with a currency-based economy.

The funny thing is, more wars have been started over a lack of affordable access to food or water, than a lack of affordable access to sex.

Shadow
Shadow
9 years ago

@katz

I kinda like Martin Hears a Whore, his 500 page diatribe detailing why 97-98% of women are whores dedicated to continuing a whore lifestyle instead of emulating the 3% of men who have won Nobel prizes. Also, if you don’t think 97% of women are whores, you’re probably a whore. Which means atleast 90% of men are whores.

…. I think the Whoriarchy thesis just became so much more understandable. We’re through the looking glass here people.

Shadow
Shadow
9 years ago

BTW, Harvard supports him in e-mail

BigMomma
BigMomma
9 years ago

my head is still spinning out trying to visualise, if i’m writing in my mother’s basement, how that would look…stretching as it would have to do from Scotland to Australia…

Helen
9 years ago

I am tapping this out on my phone in disbelief after a very long day -so please forgive any typos.Saudi women have to work in segregated workplaces serving only women,most women unless they are if a certain class and well connected are not permitted to work or drive, many Saudi males do not work because foreigners are hired to undertake a range of positions from the construction jobs carried out by (sometimes)bonded workers (slaves) to specialist professions often undertaken by foreigners too

BigMomma
BigMomma
9 years ago

wrong thread, sorry

Shadow
Shadow
9 years ago

@Xeginy

The funny thing is, more wars have been started over a lack of affordable access to food or water, than a lack of affordable access to sex

That’s just what sex WANTS you to think. Cos sex is a WHOOOORRRRREEEEE

pillowinhell
9 years ago

I’m pretty sure the whore is not listed as an antonym of pacifist in any dictionary. Nor is whore used asa the opposite in everday english….

Crass
Crass
9 years ago

What reality does this loser inhabit?

olddominiongirl
olddominiongirl
9 years ago

I am confused as to my status. I worked and paid all our bills while my boyfriend was in law school. Now, he is a lawyer and my husband, and he is paying all our bills while I get my Ph.D. I am getting my Ph.D. because I believe I want to further my career, work throughout my life, and believe I should contribute as much as my husband does to our lifetime earnings, all of which I learned from the evil feminism. AM I A WHORE? Please ask Tom to get back to me ASAP! P.S. My husband I share cooking, cleaning, etc, basically 50-50, if that is any help.

cloudiah
9 years ago

@Helen But Saudi women are the cause of all of that, as they exert complete control over all aspects of society in Saudi Arabia. Tom says! He couldn’t just make that up, could he? /sarcasm

There you go, trying to introduce facts and reality to the discussion. Tom’s having none of it!

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
9 years ago

I still think that Tom should go to Saudi. Take his fight for justice for men right to the heart of the Whoriarchy. I mean, I know he thinks it’s dangerous, but he also thinks that Muslim men are ripe for conversion to his way of thinking. Don’t you have any principles, Tom? If you really cared you’d be on the next flight to Jeddah. But, alas, you are a coward. Or could it be that all of this, including trolling the LSE and the court system, is just an attempt to make money without having to work for it? The obsession with calling other people whores does rather point in that direction.

Cotton Pony Wrangler
Cotton Pony Wrangler
9 years ago

Fun with regex:

s/whore/leopard

Female penguins are leopards.

s/whore/gingrich

There is a limit to just how un-gingrichy you need to get. Once you’ve hit zero, then you’re at your target gingriching level, of not being a gingrich.

s/whore/mxyzptlk

Muslim women are quids in the mxyzptlks.

The amazing part is that the semantic value is the same even after the transforms.

princessbonbon
9 years ago

*holds head and goes back to trying to figure out HUD regulations*

They make more sense than this guy.

Maya
Maya
9 years ago

@Cotton

You spotted it right there.

WHORE == Icky icky bad thing to call all women I hate

cloudiah
9 years ago

Cotton Pony Wrangler, you are a regex WHORE — and I mean that in a good way.

Joe
Joe
9 years ago

I call bullshit. That’s someone faking as Tom Martin to screw with you for lolz, or trolling to discredit him. Or both. It’s whorely unbelievable. (roflmylolcatz)

Aside: from my observations way more MRAs are pro-decriminalisation of sex-work and sex-workers, than against.

The Honest Courtesan does some great writing on the subject. Recommended.

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
9 years ago

Sorry to burst your bubble, Joe, but Tom emailed this site’s host to confirm that it really is him posting all those silly comments. No one has to try to discredit him – he’s doing such great job of discrediting himself, why bother?

Joe
Joe
9 years ago

Here you go: http://maggiemcneill.wordpress.com/ Don’t say I never give you anything.

Maggie McNeil is a great writer. Rigorous and readable.

Oh, it’s not an MRA site. Although Maggie does describe herself as an archeo-feminist (as opposed to a gender-feminist) so your minds may still be blown. I accept no responsibility for any fracturing of world views. Enter at your own risk.

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