Empirical & Prima Facie Evidence That MarkyMark the MGTOWer is a Nitwit

It’s a great bingo card! What’s in the middle, everything or nothing?

@TheNatFantastic You have created TheBingoCardFantastic! I like having that generic square in the middle, which can be used for things like Tom Martin’s “Female penguins are whores.” You know, those generic misogynist comments you just can’t anticipate!

In the Old Testament, God’s favorite people are males of Hebrew descent. Who wrote the Old Testament? Males of Hebrew descent. Hmmm….

Genesis 3:6 – And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was a delight to the eyes, and that the tree was to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat; and she gave also unto her husband with her, and he did eat.

According to the story itself, Adam was there, and as far as we know, not only didn’t try to stop her, but even partook of the fruit himself. Some might try to interpret this as a man too afraid to question his wife, but then we see this:

Genesis 3:12 – And the man said, The woman whom thou gavest to be with me, she gave me of the tree, and I did eat.

“It was all her fault! She made me do it!” Right. Too afraid to question her when she went for the fruit or refrain from taking the fruit himself, but not afraid enough to keep from blaming her for everything.

That alone shows us that women cannot think causally, linearly, logically, or for the good of others. Therefore, women should not be allowed to vote-end of story.

Again, even just using the Bible, that’s not true. We’ve got Deborah the Judge and Jael, the woman who killed an enemy leader with a hammer and a tent-pin in the book of Judges. We’ve got Ruth, who selflessly stayed with her mother-in-law after her husband died and went to the fields everyday to pick grain for the two of them in the book of Ruth. We’ve got Abigail in 1st Samuel, who aided David in his campaign when her husband refused to offer any assistance (Her husband died soon after and David took her as a wife, a story that would be far more romantic if David didn’t have a wife collection problem that would end up biting him in the ass later on, see Bathsheba). We’ve got Rahab the harlot in the book of Joshua, who aided God’s people and thus spared herself and her family from God’s wrath. And, of course, the story of Esther, who put her own life at risk and saved the Jews in the land by confronting the king and his corrupt advisor. Not only that, but if you read Proverbs 31:

A worthy woman who can find? For her price is far above rubies. The heart of her husband trusteth in her, And he shall have no lack of gain. She doeth him good and not evil All the days of her life. She seeketh wool and flax, And worketh willingly with her hands. She is like the merchant-ships; She bringeth her bread from afar. She riseth also while it is yet night, And giveth food to her household, And their task to her maidens. She considereth a field, and buyeth it; With the fruit of her hands she planteth a vineyard. She girdeth her loins with strength, And maketh strong her arms. She perceiveth that her merchandise is profitable: Her lamp goeth not out by night. She layeth her hands to the distaff, And her hands hold the spindle. She stretcheth out her hand to the poor; Yea, she reacheth forth her hands to the needy. She is not afraid of the snow for her household; For all her household are clothed with scarlet. She maketh for herself carpets of tapestry; Her clothing is fine linen and purple. Her husband is known in the gates, When he sitteth among the elders of the land. She maketh linen garments and selleth them, And delivereth girdles unto the merchant. Strength and dignity are her clothing; And she laugheth at the time to come. She openeth her mouth with wisdom; And the law of kindness is on her tongue. She looketh well to the ways of her household, And eateth not the bread of idleness. Her children rise up, and call her blessed; Her husband [also], and he praiseth her, [saying]: Many daughters have done worthily, But thou excellest them all. Grace is deceitful, and beauty is vain; [But] a woman that feareth Jehovah, she shall be praised. Give her of the fruit of her hands; And let her works praise her in the gates.

Does that sound like someone who can’t be expected to think causally, linearly, logically, or for the good of others to you?

@Amnesia:

Booyah!

(I can’t pretend that I fully understand all of the bible talk, but I recognize a smack down when I see it.)

Booyah!

@ Boggi

Sorry, but that’s not how things work. If your go-to insults are sexist, I’m going to wonder if you are in fact sexist, no matter how many excuses you have for lashing out in that way. That’s the issue with the femininity can’t be positive comment – I can’t see any reason why a person who wasn’t sexist would go there, no matter how upset they were at MRAs. In terms of the comments about religion, I’m an atheist so I wouldn’t say that they hurt me in any way, but even I could tell that anyone who was religious would probably be offended by them. And if that’s how they feel, then that’s how they feel. They’re not overreacting – the comments really were bigoted.

Jumbo is right – you’re trying to hold the other commenters here responsible for your mental and emotional wellbeing, and it’s not cool. If you want people to not view you with suspicion, you just need to not do anything that triggers people’s alarm bells for a long time. There are no “but you have to trust me because otherwise I’ll be upset” shortcuts, and given how much unconscious misogyny* is often on display on this page, people tend to be extra vigilant when they see signs of it. It’s the nature of the environment.

* By which I don’t mean that the people David quotes aren’t openly misogynist – they are. They often don’t seem to be aware of their own misogyny though, or to realise how deeply it’s affected what they see as logical conclusions, that are only logical if you start from the assumption that women are stupid and evil.

About the work issue, there we have unconscious misogyny again. MarkyMark, prejudiced dumbass that he is, can’t imagine women as people who might have normal reasons for wanting to work, like the reasons that he himself might have, so the explanation for women wanting a job must be either stupidity or evil, because he already believes that women are stupid and evil. It’s a perfect logical loop. It’s a good thing that we don’t actually disqualify people from voting on the grounds that they’re not logical, or our friend Marky wouldn’t be allowed to vote any time soon.

“making them as odious as random insertion of religion into a conversation.” Well, not quite, given power discrepancies between the two in most parts of the world (atheists and Christians are not similarly situated in the US), but the same general category of thing.

RE: Xeginy

Totally off-topic, but was watching Teen Titans last night, so now I envision you as Cyborg (who also likes to say BOOYAH).

This is a good thing.