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Hey ladies! The Men’s Rights movement needs you. Like, really, really needs you.

The Men’s Rights subreddit is a gift that keeps on giving!

In response to a woman pledging her support to the Men’s Rights movement, someone calling himself Nephilim_Hunter offers his thanks:

Because men have been relegated to a what of a what now?

Because males are already relegated to a position of non-participant in society

Because males are already relegated to a position of non-participant in society

Because males are already relegated to a position of non-participant in society

Because males are already relegated to a position of non-participant in society

Just wanted to make sure I understood that you really, actually did just say that.

Oh, by the way,I’m starting a new feature here at Man Boobz. It’s called: Random Pictures of Boards of Directors.

Here’s a picture of the board of directors of Wal-Mart:

Oh, and here’s the board of directors for GE:

And here’s the board of directors of Duke Energy:

Oh, and the board of directors at Dynasty Financial Partners:

And these fellas are the board of directors at The Rea Magnet Wire Company:

And, while we’re at it, here’s the board of directors of Man Boobz:

 

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cloudiah
8 years ago

I will never sleep again… 🙂

Kyrie
Kyrie
8 years ago

I won’t watch that…

pillowinhell
8 years ago

Meller, this is where so many people ended up in that Golden era you talk about. If you skim through it, it will tell you when the poor house finally closed. A lot latere than many people expect.
http://www.ontario-travel-secrets.com/wellington-county-museum.html

Kavette
Kavette
8 years ago

I know there is so much wrong with Meller, and he is my favorite troll but:

Chicago as a cess pool? Do you ever leave your house Meller?

Back in the 70-80’s Chicago had some serious crime issues, now it’s at least my favorite U.S city. I’m there on average 3 weeks a year and am by nature a wanderer, in fact one day I got lost looking for the cemetery out by boy’s town and spent close to 8 hours walking through various neighborhoods.

Do you know why Chicago is so amazing and safe today? Well, there is Jane Byrne former mayor who moved into the cities most notorious public housing development for one. She did things like that her whole term, moving into the worst neighborhoods and reforming them from within.

Seriously pretty city David K, too bad your too entrenched in your hatred to visit it. We normally stay in Wicker Park, but there are probably too many women walking around unescorted for your tastes… and I don’t recall a doll store.

Your story seems to be that you cheated on your wife, she left you, so now you live with dolls.

Does that mean I should believe that all men do not take responsibilities for their actions or just you? Also considering all women are the same does this mean that most men have romantic attachments to dolls?

Pecunium
8 years ago

Meller: Pecunium, I don’t have to worry, because being a man, you are going to eat your words sooner or later–sooner instead of later, if the modern women you seem to like so much are true to form!

Lot of hope you have packed into that if. My partner took me to Paris this week (I’m in the 13me arrondissment, even now, with a kitchen, some new pans [thanks Lu, was easy-peasy], a slab of terrine de lapine in the fridge and plans to get a cafe au lait, a pastry and some herbage to make omelletes later, even as I type this). Will we last forever? Who knows.

But never, in all my years, and all my relationships, have I had the horror stories you preach about happen. I’ve had older lovers, younger lovers, short term ones, and long term ones. A couple that ended badly, and most that ended well (sad for the ending, but glad for the spending).

And it was all with modern women.

The, “burnt out hulks”, are far from it. I walk around New York every day. Lots of people. Lots of them not white. Lots of them (even white ones) coming from other countries to make it here. I’ve been to Chicago, same thing. Detroit isn’t suffering because it’s not white, it’s suffering because the businessmen you praise so highly abandoned it.

And it’s vibrant. It’s got some of the best actual libertarianism in action happening in the country today. And it’s not lily-white.

San Francisco? Happening place. Got gays, and leather freaks, and hipsters and immigrants and the Pacific Stock Exchange (yeah, I know you hate them, but they make money), and just down the road, is Silicon Valley.

None of it lily-white, and all of it doing pretty well.

When my kind of ideas prevailed, poverty was temporary, a large and growing middle class was THE PREVAILING NORM,

Really? Read the Jungle? How about Nelly Bly? What about the Triangle Shirtwaist Company? Read any Dickens? How about the rookeries of Victorian England? Why were there so many people risking their lives to form unions? Why did Marx feel the need to write Das Kapital?

If everything was peaches and cream, and no one was suffering… how did it all go so wrong? The perfect people were in charge? How did they lose control? Maybe they weren’t so all fired smart as you like to pretend.

The wisdom of the Talmud that you cited is absolutely true–for the men and women of the time! No Rabbi or Talmudic scholar imagined that a nightmare world would ever exist like ours, where women were at war with men, where displacement of men by women would be considered “progress”, and where, without blinking an eye, women would eagerly imitate men, even in our less praiseworthy traits, anywhere and everywhere, in the name of “equality”.

Never heard of Esther have you? Or were you comparing Ruth to David? Because he was a paragon of virtue that one… had a man sent to die so he could steal his wife.

How about Samson… he killed children because they weren’t his kind of people.

Like I said, I’ll take my women (note the plural) walkig beside me, talking and arguing and even proving me wrong, to your world, Hobbes’ war of all agaisnt all, and the Devil take the hindmost, with the women all slaves and too ignorant to be able to speak.

I’ll take the Lady Whortley Montagues (who have done more to save mankind, than you will ever admit to knowing) to the simpering lady lovelies, any day of the week.

David K. Meller
David K. Meller
8 years ago

Dickens, “The Jungle”, and other such muckracking were fiction! The Triangle Shirtwaist factory fire was a tragedy, but the responsibility then, as now, rests with the failures of enforcement of i.e. building codes, fire codes, emergency evacuation procedures, health and safety inspections and other responsibilities of the Municipal and State government. One may argue about, or even disagree about WHETHER OR NOT these considerations are properly the responsibilities of government on any level, but as long as they WERE, the deaths, injuries and losses, to both the workers and the employer, was the results of government failure and corruption, not business, as some people then and later have alleged. Both the lives and limbs of the workers at the Triangle Shirtwaist Company and the losses inflicted upon its management were the fault of New York City and State governments, not “private enterprise, not “Capital” and not even labor agitators! There is also the collection of essays edited by Hayek called Capitalism and the Historians citing how the middle class was much larger, and much better off, then you and other XX century observers and critics have been led to believe. Treat yourself to them sometime.

In all events, it was considered normal and almost inevitable that the children of the employees would do better economically and socially then the parents in those times. Contrast this with the prevailing mood and ethos since the late ’60s–just when your damned feminuttery was taking hold in a big way–that it is problematic, if not hopeless, that the new generation will do better than the previous one.

KathleenB
KathleenB
8 years ago

DKM: Because fiction has never evar been used to hold a mirror up to the ugly reality many people don’t (or refuse) see, right?

Holly Pervocracy
8 years ago

DKM is opposed to “The Jungle” and making excuses for the Triangle Shirtwaist Factory fire?

I am now seriously 100% convinced he is a vampire.

Dracula
Dracula
8 years ago

Okay, hold on a second, lemme get this straight; You’re holding the government responsible for failing in duties you don’t hold the government responsible for? But private enterprise isn’t responsible either? So who is? Anybody?

KathleenB
KathleenB
8 years ago

Dracula: The WOMEN, duh! They were dumb enough to want to earn money instead of staying at home and letting a man take care of them, they deserve what they got!

/sarcasm

Rutee Katreya
8 years ago

You brush off Dickens and The Jungle as fiction, but Gor is an instruction manual?

Pecunium
8 years ago

Upton Sinclair’s” The Jungle was a fictionalisation. The events were real. It was the subsequent investigations that book sparked which led to the standards we presently have (even as poorly as they are enforced).

the deaths, injuries and losses, to both the workers and the employer, was the results of government failure and corruption, not business, as some people then and later have alleged. Both the lives and limbs of the workers at the Triangle Shirtwaist Company and the losses inflicted upon its management were the fault of New York City and State governments, not “private enterprise, not “Capital”

What?

Who locked the doors? The fire inspector? Who put the tables cheek by jowl? The cops?

No. It was management. It was the owners. It was THE BUSINESSMEN.

You are so full of shit.

Dickens’ writing did much the same for the poor of England, where it was pulling teeth to get child prostitution made illegal, and police weren’t created until Lord Peel, in the 19th century. They still had indentured servitude (in the form of bonded apprenticeships, or starving in the workhouse). There were any number of people who had to get new apprentices every couple of years because the orphans they had “hired” died.

I wonder why that was. No, actually, I don’t. The employer starved them to death, because it was good business.

It wasn’t expected that one’s children would be better off; not until that pesky regulation (and Social Security; by making it possible for parents to not drain their children’s livelihood in their old age, which made it possible for people to expect to send their kids to college) came along.

But, as regulation is stripped, the, “Good Old Days” are coming back, and you don’t like it, but you are blaming the messengers, not the perpetrators; and pleading for more power on the part of business to bend you over and fuck you hard. No lube, no reach-around, not even a, “thanks for the ride”, just a, “NEXT!” when they get done with you.

princessbonbon
8 years ago

The Triangle Shirtwaist factory fire was a tragedy, but the responsibility then, as now, rests with the failures of enforcement of i.e. building codes, fire codes, emergency evacuation procedures, health and safety inspections and other responsibilities of the Municipal and State government.

Do you know why those governments did not have those codes? It was because of people like you who thought government should butt out. The same people who also threw a fit when taxes were assessed to finally pay for the inadequate inspections we have now. Because heaven forbid an employer do the proper thing in the first place. No that has to be government’s job. A job that you follow up by saying is not their job.

One may argue about, or even disagree about WHETHER OR NOT these considerations are properly the responsibilities of government on any level, but as long as they WERE, the deaths, injuries and losses, to both the workers and the employer, was the results of government failure and corruption, not business, as some people then and later have alleged.

The employers did not die. In fact they barely were harmed at all by the entire disaster. When one of the owners was found later to be doing the same thing-locking the doors on workers-and he was fined $20. In today’s money, that would be a fine of $474. The payout from the deaths was $75 for the actual victims and $400 per person for the owners. That means the owners made a profit on the deaths they caused by locking the doors in the first place. A profit in today’s money of $845,000.

Here is the kicker, again, YOU and many of your ilk think that government has no duty and responsibility to prevent these deaths. Yet you blame the government for not doing anything and absolve the business owners of any liability. Your position makes no logical sense. What is next, saying “keep your government hands off my Medicare?”

Both the lives and limbs of the workers at the Triangle Shirtwaist Company and the losses inflicted upon its management were the fault of New York City and State governments, not “private enterprise, not “Capital” and not even labor agitators!

In other words, the business owners would have totally not locked the doors if if they had no choice but because they did it is the city’s fault they caused all those deaths.

There is also the collection of essays edited by Hayek called Capitalism and the Historians citing how the middle class was much larger, and much better off, then you and other XX century observers and critics have been led to believe. Treat yourself to them sometime.

No thanks, if this is the kind of “logic” that Hayek espouses, I wish no part.

traindodger
8 years ago

I got in an argument with MikeeUSA once, who was in the process of spewing the typical MRA claim that “women use the prison system to control/enslave/dominate men”, etc.

I made the counter-claim that prisons are a business, and the contractors that build them and keep them stocked with all the proper equipment have men for CEOs. He came back with, well, you know… “those men are traitors/white knights/manginas”, and so forth. No True Scotsman fallacy. Did it ever occur to him that maybe – just maybe – these people like having lots and lots of money?

Margot
Margot
6 years ago

I believe that the rights of men is a VERY important issue especially with the feminist maniac out there. But I have a problem with the movement in that it basically is for the rights of white men only. White men have been responsible for oppression all over the world and ALL people of color are still feeling the effects of those efforts. So me being a person of color I can see how supporting you benefits all my people of color.

Margot
Margot
6 years ago

I am sorry I need to clarify my last sentence in my comment. I wanted to say I can not see how supporting you benefits me. You look like the male version of the feminist movement to me.
I have ALWAYS had problems with the feminist movement. The are not really interested in the concerns of people of color and that has been from it’s inception. Thus the reason why Sojourner Truth Made the speech “Aren’t I a Women too?” White women were just as oppressive to people of color if not worst in many cases.

I have watched the movement from the back of the room and Issues that relate to people of color just like the feminist movement go unrecognized and not really even mentioned. I have seen and heard many references of this being just a White male rights movement, to me making you just another divisive group.
Feminist are crazy and very unreasonable to me. They make stupid comments like exterminating men from the human race, which would bring about the destruction of the human race. We go half on a baby and can’t produce any with out MEN. It is a myth that women make the best parents, A horrible myth too.

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