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Leave it to the manosphere to further elevate the national discourse about Sandra Fluke. On Gucci Little Piggy, a blog loosely aligned with the alt-right/racist/PUA wing of the manosphere, blogger Chuck Rudd suggests that Rush Limbaugh might have been wrong to call Fluke a slut. Sounds good,eh? Not when you hear the, er, reasoning behind it:
I think the term “slut” is too arbitrary to have much meaning in a political context, especially when we don’t actually know anything about the so-called slut’s sexual history. It doesn’t fit Sandra Fluke anyway as we don’t know for sure that she’s heterosexual.
Go on.
Fluke is not a “slut”, nor is she a “good citizen” which is what President Obama called her in a press conference held today. Based upon readily observable behavior and on her beliefs about what she and her favorite groups have a right to grab from tax payers and employers, it’s best to call her what she is: a pirate
Uh, what?
Apparently, in Chuck’s world, putative lesbians who suggest that insurance should pay for birth control that they personally don’t need to prevent babies, though they or people they know might need it to treat other medical conditions, are pirates.
Later in the post, Chuck links to a review of a book that suggests many pirates engaged in sodomy. Which is evidently proof in his mind that lesbians are pirates, or at least that it is hilarious to call them pirates.
Anyway, the best part of the piece is how Chuck, using the magic of SCIENCE, proves that Fluke is gay:
[P]eople who have a longer ring finger (4d) than index finger (2d) have more testosterone and, some argue, a higher sex drive.
Pointing to a news photograph that appears to show that Ms. Fluke does indeed have a long ring finger, Chuck concludes:
her ring finger is quite a bit longer than her index. It’s almost as long as her middle finger. In general, a low 2d:4d ratio in women indicates a greater proclivity towards homosexuality or bisexuality and greater tendency towards aggressiveness and assertiveness. So, yeah, pirate fits.
Thanks, Chuck.
Most of the commenters to his article seem to agree with his basic thesis.
Stickman writes:
forget the fingers… shes got strait up MAN HANDS. But look on the bright side, if she survives the up coming second dark ages, I’m sure she will do a fine job of pulling a plow.
Note: The “coming second dark ages” is a familiar trope among manospherians; the idea is that men will get so fed up with the gynofascist matriarchy we evidently all live in today that they will stop working, civilization will crumble, and the ladies will be put in their proper place, behind pulling plows.
SOBL1 adds:
As a fellow Cornellian, my guess is lesbian. Cornell has a decent les population.It also speaks more to a les to demand free birth control as a hand out from the government speaking on behalf of all women when she has no shot of getting pregnant. That’s just the thing lesbians like to do: consider their opinions the worldview of all “womyn”. At a minimum, she was a LUG [Lesbian Until Graduation]. Her face and hair are so masculine, she could pass for a male supporting character in “All the President’s Men”.
Did he mention he went to CORNELL?
One free-thinking fellow actually challenges Chuck’s analysis. Nick digger writes:
This finger length analysis from candid photos is nonsense. There are too many knuckle-bends in all directions, combined with skewed camera position, to get an accurate measurement. There has to be some standard for this, such as hands pressed flat against a flat surface, with all fingers together, or each finger extending in a straight line from its source carpal (or metacarpal, whatever it is).
Having said that, she looks like a fat, ugly cunt — which is what Rush should have called her, as it does not imply sluttiness. He’s entitled, because libs call him a fat ugly cunt all the time.
Such is the nature of the discussion amongst some of the internet’s most steadfast advocates for the rights of men.
Chuck himself adds a few parting thoughts in a comment suggesting that Fluke’s biggest crime was that she didn’t ask for birth control coverage nicely enough:
When you ask for something from someone you don’t demand it and then demonize someone who doesn’t cave in to your demands. You ask and the other person chooses whether to reciprocate. All of this is akin to someone asking a stranger for a hitch across town and then screaming and yelling when rebuffed
It’s true. In the past, activists have always been extremely polite about their demands requests. You may recall the famous anti-war slogan: “Heck no, we would prefer not to go.” The “Excuse us, fellas, but we would also like to be able to walk around at night” marches. And of course, Martin Luther King’s famous, “Guys, would any of you like to hear about this dream I had” speech.
All Chuck and his friends are asking is that fat ugly dyke cunts stop being so darn rude when they call on insurance companies to provide certain kinds of medical coverage. Is that really too much to ask?
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I’d better put that blinking
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Unfortunately, I have yet to see them fing. When I do, I’ll let you know.
More on topic…
I don’t understand the attacks on Fluke’s appearance and weight. I think she’s quite attractive and an average weight. But what would I know, since my ring fingers are longer than my index fingers, so I’m probably just being aggressive, assertive, and over sexed, and a pirate.
Wisteria, when they can’t attack you for anything you’ve said, they go for looks and weight. That train is never late.
I made the mistake of reading Piglets blog and..um…the comments. Guess one of the sheild maidens was a little uppitty and voiced an opinion or something. For that offense, well let’s just say they chose a gendered body part and paired it with a serated blade and lemon juice. Yeah…not a blog I care to read again.
Doesn’t essentially everyone have a longer ring finger? I think that’s just how most hands are shaped. I do, but I also have teeny little lady-hands, so maybe it cancels out.
Nah, both ways around are common. Men are somewhat more likely to have longer ring fingers and women are somewhat more likely to have longer index fingers, but both versions occur fairly frequently in men and women, IIRC.
(My index fingers are longer, but only just baaaaaaaaarely. I guess by their silly theory that should make me bi-curious or something? :-p )
Quackers – me too!
No idea what it means, though.
Gee and all I get is lefthandedness. Why can’t I get to be a piraste too? *kicks the dirt*
That’s a completely messed up way to use the hand thing. I read within the last year or so about a study that measured testosterone levels or maybe exposure in the womb (sorry, it’s been a while) that suggested that higher testosterone levels in women were correlated with homosexuality while lower testosterone levels in men were correlated with homosexuality, and it’s possible finger length was mentioned (again, wish I could remember exactly)? But it’s just ridiculous to go so far as to say you can identify sexual orientation via finger length. It’s like someone took palm reading even further into the Land of Ridiculous.
And what does how Fluke looks have to do with the value of what she says?
Morgan and Wisteria: To these jerks, if you don’t look like a barely legal ammeter porn actress who’s at most a size 4 (and white), you’re fat and ugly.
Um…David? Is left handed now a bad word? I keep getting caught in the blogs time out corner…
Boobz:
“On what grounds is she disqualified from speaking on the subject?”
Where did I suggest that she can’t speak on the subject? She can speak all she wants; I haven’t suggested otherwise.
Again, my question: what is Fluke’s reasoning behind her push to force organizations or employers to choose health insurance plans that cover what she wants them to cover? It may be a nice feature to have and maybe she or even most women want it, but by no means does an employer have to supply these specific policies. There are plenty of things that humans want which they have no legitimate grounds for forced provision.
It is only the law right now. There are some catholics who want to force an exemption to the law. They are not exempt, nor do they get to deny coverage their employees pay for.
An equivalent would be Jehovah’s Witnesses demanding denial of blood transfusions for all their employees.
I’m watching an anime that seems to be about lesbian space pirates, and is also not porn. Actually it’s been pretty excellent so far XD
True, there’s no law that forces people to be decent human beings. What’s your point, exactly? That people shouldn’t be?
Damn those women, trying to force companies to give them the services they thought they were paying for.
Yeah, that bullshit, back-pedaling rephrasing of your original query is not especially convincing. Nor is it relevant because Fluke was offering testimony in support of an already existing -though admittedly controversial- mandate.
The affordable care act added a mandate which stipulates that birth control be covered by existing and future insurance policies.
Speak of the devil. But you might observe that this thread actually has nothing to do with the Affordable Care Act: Why is Fluke a pirate?
It’s just so, well, sinister, you know?
I’d be happy to donate, if you can tell me how to do it anonymously, so that I don’t stalked by your tribe.
My best guess? The eye-patch.
Oh please, like anyone here would hurt you. The MRAs you love so much? Are quite a different story.
See, here I was thinking it was all the rum and plundering.
@Kathleen B:
“I have gigantic hands, both my middle and ring fingers are longer than my index finger, and I’m MARRIED TO A MAN!!!”
Are you sure? You better go check.
Moewicus…at least I can be said to be in my right mind.
“Speak of the devil. But you might observe that this thread actually has nothing to do with the Affordable Care Act: Why is Fluke a pirate?”
Pirates are thieves. Fluke is advocating thievery. Also, the whole debate depends on a bit of hostage-taking. I think Limbaugh was dumb to say what he said, but that doesn’t change the fact that Fluke and the feminists are using extreme rhetoric i.e. War on Women to silence those who oppose government mandates for items that ppl can pay for out of their own pocket (and pay very little, mind you).
Just my opinion that she’s a lesbian which is one reason that Limbaugh’s attack was way off base. I’m actually kind of surprised that feminists didn’t attack the implicit heteronormativity in Limbaugh’s statement. By calling her a slut in need of contraception he implied that she’s having lots of sex with men.
Rush has now lost forty-five sponsors.
http://thinkprogress.org/media/2012/03/02/436852/rush-limbaugh-advertisers/?tw_p=twt
But when it comes to Viagara being covered by insurance policies, suddenly it’s all good in the hood?