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Leave it to the manosphere to further elevate the national discourse about Sandra Fluke. On Gucci Little Piggy, a blog loosely aligned with the alt-right/racist/PUA wing of the manosphere, blogger Chuck Rudd suggests that Rush Limbaugh might have been wrong to call Fluke a slut. Sounds good,eh? Not when you hear the, er, reasoning behind it:
I think the term “slut” is too arbitrary to have much meaning in a political context, especially when we don’t actually know anything about the so-called slut’s sexual history. It doesn’t fit Sandra Fluke anyway as we don’t know for sure that she’s heterosexual.
Go on.
Fluke is not a “slut”, nor is she a “good citizen” which is what President Obama called her in a press conference held today. Based upon readily observable behavior and on her beliefs about what she and her favorite groups have a right to grab from tax payers and employers, it’s best to call her what she is: a pirate
Uh, what?
Apparently, in Chuck’s world, putative lesbians who suggest that insurance should pay for birth control that they personally don’t need to prevent babies, though they or people they know might need it to treat other medical conditions, are pirates.
Later in the post, Chuck links to a review of a book that suggests many pirates engaged in sodomy. Which is evidently proof in his mind that lesbians are pirates, or at least that it is hilarious to call them pirates.
Anyway, the best part of the piece is how Chuck, using the magic of SCIENCE, proves that Fluke is gay:
[P]eople who have a longer ring finger (4d) than index finger (2d) have more testosterone and, some argue, a higher sex drive.
Pointing to a news photograph that appears to show that Ms. Fluke does indeed have a long ring finger, Chuck concludes:
her ring finger is quite a bit longer than her index. It’s almost as long as her middle finger. In general, a low 2d:4d ratio in women indicates a greater proclivity towards homosexuality or bisexuality and greater tendency towards aggressiveness and assertiveness. So, yeah, pirate fits.
Thanks, Chuck.
Most of the commenters to his article seem to agree with his basic thesis.
Stickman writes:
forget the fingers… shes got strait up MAN HANDS. But look on the bright side, if she survives the up coming second dark ages, I’m sure she will do a fine job of pulling a plow.
Note: The “coming second dark ages” is a familiar trope among manospherians; the idea is that men will get so fed up with the gynofascist matriarchy we evidently all live in today that they will stop working, civilization will crumble, and the ladies will be put in their proper place, behind pulling plows.
SOBL1 adds:
As a fellow Cornellian, my guess is lesbian. Cornell has a decent les population.It also speaks more to a les to demand free birth control as a hand out from the government speaking on behalf of all women when she has no shot of getting pregnant. That’s just the thing lesbians like to do: consider their opinions the worldview of all “womyn”. At a minimum, she was a LUG [Lesbian Until Graduation]. Her face and hair are so masculine, she could pass for a male supporting character in “All the President’s Men”.
Did he mention he went to CORNELL?
One free-thinking fellow actually challenges Chuck’s analysis. Nick digger writes:
This finger length analysis from candid photos is nonsense. There are too many knuckle-bends in all directions, combined with skewed camera position, to get an accurate measurement. There has to be some standard for this, such as hands pressed flat against a flat surface, with all fingers together, or each finger extending in a straight line from its source carpal (or metacarpal, whatever it is).
Having said that, she looks like a fat, ugly cunt — which is what Rush should have called her, as it does not imply sluttiness. He’s entitled, because libs call him a fat ugly cunt all the time.
Such is the nature of the discussion amongst some of the internet’s most steadfast advocates for the rights of men.
Chuck himself adds a few parting thoughts in a comment suggesting that Fluke’s biggest crime was that she didn’t ask for birth control coverage nicely enough:
When you ask for something from someone you don’t demand it and then demonize someone who doesn’t cave in to your demands. You ask and the other person chooses whether to reciprocate. All of this is akin to someone asking a stranger for a hitch across town and then screaming and yelling when rebuffed
It’s true. In the past, activists have always been extremely polite about their demands requests. You may recall the famous anti-war slogan: “Heck no, we would prefer not to go.” The “Excuse us, fellas, but we would also like to be able to walk around at night” marches. And of course, Martin Luther King’s famous, “Guys, would any of you like to hear about this dream I had” speech.
All Chuck and his friends are asking is that fat ugly dyke cunts stop being so darn rude when they call on insurance companies to provide certain kinds of medical coverage. Is that really too much to ask?
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I’d better put that blinking
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I’m a cis female and my ring finger’s longer than my index finger, but my best friend is bi and I don’t understand all her talk about sexy ladies, so I must not be very good at this. :C
According to my fingers, I’m quite the lesbian. My husband is going to be disappointed when I tell him, but hey, you can’t argue with “science”.
And yes, Seraph is right: the drawing up top is supposed to be Mary Read revealing to her foe that he just got beaten by a girl, neener neener, yarrrr, etc.
Because lesbians don’t have sex or because lesbian sex doesn’t count since there is no PIV sex, which is as we all know the only real – but sadly dirty for the woman – kind of sex.
/sarcasm
Chuck – she paid Georgetown whatever sum of money they required for her mandatory student health insurance, which according to Georgetown’s own policies is supposed to cover birth control pills for medical reasons. If I paid money for health insurance and then found the company fucking around and not providing what their policies said they would provide, you can be damn sure I’d be waging an all-out war against them to hold them accountable.
Looking manly has very few effect on the need for birth control, out there in the reality. You could also notice that Fluke, pirate or not and lesbian or not, is more likely to need the pill (and be informed about it) that all the cis men who testified.
W-W-W-W-WHAT!!!!????
If MRAs weren’t constantly lying and in denial this is what would happen to them when confronted with facts.
I have a longer ring finger! Now, i don’t really care if that make me gay, straight or bi, the real question is: I’m supposed to have a strong sex drive?? What has happen to it? I demand it back, as I’m clearly entitled to it due to the length of my finger.
Ok, I am late to the party, but are they talking about lesbian pirates from outer space?
http://rosalarian.com/lesbianpirates/
Dang, ninja’d by Bostonian!
LOL someone else has read it too!
I read it for the articles!
>>Also, does anyone have any idea where this “pirate” thing is coming from?
Pretty sure it’s MRA gLibertarian-speak for “she wants to steal all our MONEY$ by asking for government handouts”.
As a non-American, I’ve got to say this whole debate is damned nuts. You’re so far away from what should really be provided — fe or heavily subsidized birth control for all women, regardless of insurance — you’re slipping into the dark ages. And the very same people who would never let that happen are wailing loudest about welfare bums and the US slipping as a superpower. Well duh, gentlemen.
I’ve heard the ridiculous ring finger thing (I’ve also seen it applied to queer men) before, I even included it as a part of a presentation I gave about the current medicalization of queerness back when I was a senior in undergrad. It’s pseudoscientific nonsensical crap, despite being popular among a certain strain of homophobes.
Quick, can anyone guess my fingerlengths since you already know I have a deviant queer body? /sarcasm
@BlackBloc
I think David’s curious about the “all female pirates are lesbians” work of art. I’m certainly agape with curiousity
Doesn’t essentially everyone have a longer ring finger? I think that’s just how most hands are shaped. I do, but I also have teeny little lady-hands, so maybe it cancels out.
I for one think Ms. Fluke is quite attractive…according to the manosphere, I guess that means my standards are really, really low? Not that they’d give a flying f**k, as I’m “one of them”, and a trans “one of them”, which is probably like a double offense.
Oh Chucky-boy, you and your ilk never cease to amuse me (unless you are creeping me out, frightening me, or making me angry, which are other emotions you lot are gifted with)
On my left hand my ring finger and index finger are practically the same length, but on my right hand my index finger is longer
WHAT DOES THIS MEAN?!?
I am so tired of idiots like Chuck thinking Fluke is demanding anything.
Insurance, how the fuck does that work? Morons.
That’s because America is a soft fascist, capitalist, imperialist, materialistic theocracy. That’s why we can’t have nice things.
They are the length necessary for them to be on the end of your arms DSC.
I’m going to stare at the hands of guys I’m interested in now. If their ring fingers are longer they probably have a higher sex drive which will probably make them cheat so I know that I want nothing to do with them, as I am someone who wants a monogamous relationship.
Who they are as a person and what they want out of a relationship is irrelevant. The fingers don’t lie!
/sarcasm
Two thoughts occur to me when reading this post:
1) It’s 2012.
2) These are grown men.
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I can think of one finger that doesn’t lie!
TK, you’re right. The USA is totally messed up when it comes to health care of any sort (and a lot of other things).
I had to go to the emergency room a month ago. I didn’t know it at the time, but I was passing a kidney stone. Worst pain I’ve ever felt in my life.
I received the bill for it a week ago. I was in the ER about six hours, received an IV, pain and anti-nausea medication twice through the IV, a CT scan, urine and blood tests, and was examined by a physician. The bill was for over $6000. My insurance, which costs me over $400 a month, negotiated away $2000, paid $2500, and I ended up owing $1500.
I’m hoping there’s not a next time, but if there is, I’ll probably just take some pain meds, drink a lot of water, and hope for the best.
(Sorry, David, I wish I could give you something for your great work on this blog.)
Whoa, dude! My hands! They’ve got, like, a ring finger… and… it’s longer than all the other fingers… except the long one. It’s like a double rainbow all the way! What does this mean?
I mean, fuckin’ fingers… how do they work?