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Irony alert: MRA who cannot master simple punctuation attacks black women as “ignorant.”

Do you like your Men’s Rights activism plain, or with a side order of racist bullshit? Regular readers of Man Boobz will remember Christian J, the man behind the blog What Men Are Saying About Women, a self-described “Male Renaissance Agitator” and inventor of the MRA two-dot ellipses. (Heck, I wrote about him just the other day.)

Well, now he’s really outdone himself with a foul racist tirade directed at what he calls ”one of my favourite loathe subjects and that is ‘Black Women’.”

Christian’s excuse for this tirade is a video he found of a white woman complaining about a black woman who was rude to her at a restaurant. According to him, the video addresses the following “issues.”

1. Black women generally suck..

2. Black Women are so full of themselves..

3. Black Women have major issues cause they can’t get no man..

4. Black Women are “strong” in their own mind, make that “stupid” and “Ignorant”. as well..

5. Black Women lack the basic social graces and also basic sanitary habits..

To this he adds:

Black females have wallowed in and adopted the feminist’s hate doctrine as statistics have already demonstrated, single mothers stands at 70% and similar divorce stats. also demonstrates that they are incapable of keeping in a relationship, whatever excuse they justify in their own minds. They are to be avoided at all costs as any black man/dude/bro will testify..

Having read all this, I expected the video to be some sort of White Power rant. It’s nothing of the sort. While the videomaker, a sort of wannabe Pamela Anderson, makes a few problematic and arguably racist comments here and there, she doesn’t actually make any of the sweeping racist generalizations about black women that Christian attributes to her. Nope. That’s all him.

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Falconer
Falconer
9 years ago

I clicked on that occidentaldissent link. Why did I click on that occidentaldissent link?!

Oh, yeah — cuz I don’t know what HBD stands for and I was hoping to find out. Should have just gone to urban dictionary. Stupid.

So anyway the article just prior to the linked one was talking about how Star Trek dared to have black people in it who invent things and are leaders. The horrors!

So now I’m all stabby and I’m nowhere that I can let off steam.

Nobinayamu
Nobinayamu
9 years ago

And seriously, who does the neck swivel thing anymore?

I’ll be honest, catch me on a bad day, you might get a glimpse.

Sharculese
9 years ago

it behooves me to deny the aesthetic affect of visualisation, which we already know, has a relaxing and health building affect on our well being. So I basically am conscious of that factor, constantly, hrrumph!!..

why do these dudes all write like pretentious college freshman, and if they have to do that, can they at least not use words to mean the opposite of what they really mean?

Carrie
9 years ago

@shaenon: I’d go more with women who are in porn/hentai first since some of those anime girls can be pretty bitchy.

Shadow
Shadow
9 years ago

As a native American of the lady persuasion, I can tell you that the ridiculous racist notion concerning our sexuality is that sleeping with me will be a spiritual experience that will bring a man closer to nature and erase any white guilt.

WTF?!! Where the hell did that idiotic stereotype come from? Some people expect way too much from PIV

David K. Meller
David K. Meller
9 years ago

What is a “stereotype” except an opinion–usually negative– which is verified by countless observations by hugh numbers of people over generations, if not centuries, of time?

His so-called “racist” opinion doesn’t make black, or any other group of women, share such features and behaviors. Only the (black) women, in large enough numbers, and over a long enough period of time, can do that!

These observations are made, and have lasted for generations, whether or not the current (MRA) observer can navigate the demands of proper punctuation or not.

One more piece of evidence, if any are still needed, that “racist” is merely a smear word used by feminists, communists, liberals, and similar types who lack either the courage of their own observations, or intelligent and thoughtful arguments against the egalitarian banking/media/political New World Order powers which are reducing all of us (except the uppermost .00001%) into “living” in the approaching oneWorld third-world slum!

debbaasseerr
9 years ago

Imagine the cautious aspiring dude carefully parsing his hate before joining either group:

“Hmm, do I despise women and hate blacks, or am I really against blacks and just also despise women – I mean not all women are black, but then again not all black people are women. What to do, what to do…”

hellkell
hellkell
9 years ago

HI, MELLER! Ya racist shitbag, how ya been?

FREE EVAN!

Halite
9 years ago

@David K “It’s Not Racist if it’s True” Meller:

Careful with that trope, it’s an antique.

Holly Pervocracy
9 years ago

What is a “stereotype” except an opinion–usually negative– which is verified by countless observations by hugh numbers of people over generations, if not centuries, of time?

I don’t know what number is “Hugh.” Is that your nickname for six?

But actually, a stereotype is an opinion–usually negative–which is “verified” by white people (straight people, cis people, et al) telling it to each other a whole bunch of times until they believe it.

Holly Pervocracy
9 years ago

One more piece of evidence, if any are still needed, that “racist” is merely a smear word used by feminists, communists, liberals, and similar types who lack either the courage of their own observations, or intelligent and thoughtful arguments against the egalitarian banking/media/political New World Order powers which are reducing all of us (except the uppermost .00001%) into “living” in the approaching oneWorld third-world slum!

DKM, you write the most marvelous sentences. That one might even have a subject somewhere buried inside. The ending seems to be a work in progress, though.

Also I am completely unclear on how not having enough racism will reduce us all into living in a giant slum, but I’m sure I don’t want to hear the explanation.

Shadow
Shadow
9 years ago

@DKM

And of course you are in complete agreement with stereotypes about white people no? I suppose White people really CAN’T dance. And of course rural White folks are all ignorant, inbred, racist and sexist idiots (a particularly funny stereotype considering ithiliana’s our raving researcher). And then there’s the general “White folks are the devil” stereotype. And that’s just scratching the surface on stereotypes about White people. Or are stereotypes only true when they are observations made by the rational, impartial White male?

hellkell
hellkell
9 years ago

DKM doesn’t realize that opinions aren’t facts, and cannot be verified.

David K. Meller
David K. Meller
9 years ago

Ah, the “not ALL ————– are ‘like that’ objection.

Not everybody has to conform to a particular stereotype for it to become a permanent cultural and social artifact. If even a small percentage, as long as it is enough to assure nearby members of other (rival) groups repeated experiences, a stereotype will form, and will be passed down generation by generation until the characteristic behavior becomes too rare to be noticed, or it is replaced by another.

One more reason for groups of people whose ways of life, customs, and folkways are incompatible to maintain their distance, but I wouldn’t expect readers here to appreciate this.

Shadow
Shadow
9 years ago

My own observations tell me that if you decide to be build sunset towns, the number of people that’ll want to occupy them can be housed in Rhode Island with plenty of room to spare

shaenon
9 years ago

Meller, do your black dolls know you talk like that?

David K. Meller
David K. Meller
9 years ago

Holly Pervocrazy–March 2, 2012 @ 2:09pm

My mistake. I meant to say “huge”! My spellcheck was off. Sorry.

Halite
9 years ago

@Holly Pervocracy

You’re a better person that I am. I read that twice and couldn’t make heads or tails of it. I was a little impressed and how he went from racist to tin foil hattery in 1.43 seconds though. Bet he does a great 1/4 mile, too.

Shadow
Shadow
9 years ago

Meller, do your black dolls know you talk like that?

HIs own observations, along with the words of wisdom imparted by his elders, have taught him that black dolls suck 😎

Holly Pervocracy
9 years ago

I worked out DKM’s logic! I think!

A) Black people are more likely to be poor than white people.

B) I can’t think of a single historical, sociological, or economic reason this could possibly be!

C) So they must just magically attract poorness wherever they go. (This is a charitable interpretation; there are many viler ones than “magic” but they work out the same.)

D) So if we let the black people get too much power, they’ll spread their poorness everywhere and then we’ll all be poor!

Holly Pervocracy
9 years ago

It’s particularly sick because it’s “racism justifies racism.”

Shorter DKM: If they’re so equal, how come white people haven’t treated them better?

David K. Meller
David K. Meller
9 years ago

Shaenon, March 2, 2012 @2:36pm

My African dolls are, like my others, little lady lovelies, and they are talked to, and treated, like the precious little princesses that they are! They are as superior to feminists blackwomen as they (and my other LLLs) are to feminists and modern women everywhere. The black women(?) cited above are HORRID, and like their modern counterparts, deserve every bad opinion that male critics have about them! When they change their speech and behavior from being disgusting to being precious and adorable, like the women (of all races and religions) should be, they can then be compared to my dolls!

I hope that this answers your question!

Kyrie
Kyrie
9 years ago

I have a lot of stereotypes about dolls’ owners. (First is that they act like kids all day long. Verified by countless examples)

Also about trolls. (they’re not as smart as they think)

Also about Americans. Wanna hear them? (hint: it sound a lot like what Shadow said about rural white folks, mixed with the Simpsons and south park but with more obesity)

Kyrie
Kyrie
9 years ago

I’ve got stereotypes about my own people too, (and young people, and women, and students,…) but since opinion is fact I can say with certitude they’re all false.

Quackers
Quackers
9 years ago

Oh Meller, still the same racist, misogynist sack of shit you always are I see.

Run along and go play with your dollies now!

Rutee Katreya
9 years ago

Wow, DKM is really in opposite land. Last I checked it took way more bravery to tell racist fuckwads to stop being racist than it did to not be racist. And I’m speaking from experience. Making Korean jokes* was helluva lot easier than telling my friends to stop being racist to me, let alone to korean people.

*I don’t anymore, but they’re really fucking common in the gaming community.

katz
9 years ago

I don’t know what number is “Hugh.” Is that your nickname for six?

It’s the nickname for third of five, IIRC.

darksidecat
9 years ago

In my experience, the scapegoating of rural white people (who have their fair share of racists and sexists, but not, in my personal experience, any more than wealthy suburban and urban white people) is used to divert attention and criticisms from wealthy white people’s bad behavior. If they can pretend it’s the “rednecks” and “trailer trash” that have all of the problems with bigotry, they don’t have to ever address or accept criticism against their own. I’ve heard shit so nasty coming from the mouth of wealthy students at universities in upstate New York that it can rival things said by Klansmen and neo-nazis. I once had an argument in one of the honors classes (which tended to be even richer and whiter than the general student population), in which almost a fifth of the class openly endorsed eugenics being used against the poor and people with disabilities. My observation is that the bigotry level of upperclass urban and suburban white people tends to be every bit as high as rural poor white people, the former just lies about it more and does more behind people’s backs.

NYC’s stop and frisk isn’t in practice any less racist than Arizona’s SB1070, rich northerners just tend to be more subtle in how they implement and arguing for their racism.

Rutee Katreya
9 years ago

Seconded, DSC. That has definitely been my experience.

Dracula
Dracula
9 years ago

What is a “stereotype” except [a preconceived notion]–usually negative– which is [perpetuated] by countless [baseless assumptions] by hugh numbers of [ignorant, racist fuckheads] over generations, if not centuries, of time?

FTFY, asshole.

Shadow
Shadow
9 years ago

@DSC

No doubt. Anecdotal: my uncle and aunt were both professors at MS State for ages. They were all so sad to leave Starkville because of how welcoming the community was.

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
9 years ago

Meller’s back! And still upset that we made fun of his belief that his dolls love him.

People used to believe that the Sun orbited the earth, Meller. You may want to find a better argument than “people have always believed”.

Dracula
Dracula
9 years ago

Yeah, I live in the northeastern U.S., and there’s plenty of racism up here. Most of what I’ve personally encountered has been of the “I’m not racist, I have black friends.” variety.

Of course, being a white guy, I’m sure I’m only seeing the tip of the iceberg.

Bostonian
9 years ago

Speaking of ignorance, who was it that mentioned that DKM does not seem to read anything published afer 1985?

ozymandias42
ozymandias42
9 years ago

So, has DKM ever heard of the concept of “confirmation bias”? If you believe that, say, black people are lazy, you’ll ignore ten non-lazy black people as outliers and seize upon the eleventh as a proof of your theory.

Also, Meller. Many of the people who believed black people were inferior also believed Irish people were inferior. Today, basically no one believes Irish people are inferior. Are Irish people actually inferior and everyone has just forgotten? Why can’t people notice this obvious truth? Or were the people in the nineteenth century mistaken? Why were they mistaken about Irish people and not about black people?

David K. Meller
David K. Meller
9 years ago

Speaking of ignorance, who was it who mentioned that Bostonian (and sister manboobzettes) never read anything published before 1985, if they can read anything at all?

ozymandias42
ozymandias42
9 years ago

And DSC speaks the truth. The most O.O racism I’ve ever experienced was from rich people, many of whom could count on one hand the number of times they’d met a POC who wasn’t their maid.

captainbathrobe
9 years ago

Bare in mind

Actually, I rather enjoy picturing naked people.

katz
9 years ago

DKM, I’m sure your dolls read only the classics, right? Pygmalion must be a favorite…and The Sandman…The Steadfast Tin Soldier…

captainbathrobe
9 years ago

I grew up in an affluent Bay Area suburb, and there was no shortage of racists, let me tell you. Some were absolutely convinced that The Black Hordes were taking BART from Oakland in order to steal their valuable property. Which, considering the work involved in trekking from the station to suburbia and back carrying a color TV, demonstrates admirable initiative, were it true.

hellkell
hellkell
9 years ago

Meller, is a quick rewording of Bostonian’s post the best you’ve got? You are NEVER going to be 2012 Troll of the Year if you keep that up!

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
9 years ago

Shorter DKM – The fact that my dolls can’t talk back makes them infinitely superior to all of you evil consciousness-having women. Stop being sentient! It upsets me!

David K. Meller
David K. Meller
9 years ago

Ozymandias—March 2, 2012 @4:52 pm–

Because, Ozymandias (and the dozen+ others above who queried the same point), the BEHAVIOR of Irish changed over the generations. Irish, both in Ireland, and overseas, have evolved into a substantially different people than they were in past centuries. these different (Irish) people live in a world encouraging (and discouraging) different types of behavior than the behavior evident in too many of Irish in earlier centuries. As the ratio of “lazy, drunken, improvident…” Irish diminished and the ratio of other,perhaps more desirable traits, increased, nobody believes–or has reason to–believe that Irish are Inferior. The somewhat diminished number and influence of Anglo-Saxon Protestants in America, Australia and elsewhere (who were most likely to hold and to spread the negative “stereotypes) also played a part.

Will Africans undergo a similar process? Nobody knows, but if they continue to spawn dysfunctional people in substantial numbers; masses of which can neither be suppressed nor assimilated; people who can neither re-segregated nor integrated in any useful or beneficial way, than probably not!

If, on the other hand, the collapse of the US Dollar, American imperialism abroad, and the welfare/’publik-skoolz/ welfare subsidized pseudomatriarchy corroding far too much of black life since the ’60s forces Africans upon their own (thus far, largely invisible) resources, their behavior, at least in terms of numbers and influence, will have to trend more toward the more self-reliant, thrifty, disciplined, and efficient and away from the (stereotypical) gangsta, improvident, drug infested, hypersexual, and infantile filth that had been polluting far too much of the black “community” over the past half-century or so, I hope that there will be more “Malcolm X” and less “Al Sharpton”, More Booker T. Washington and less Angela Davis, or more George Washington Carver and less Harold Washington…but they face the tragic and overwhelming obstacles today, far more than the Irish did a century or so ago, of dependency upon and corruption by a larger (degenerated White) society lobotomized by mass-entertainment and an utterly corrupt and toxic “publik skoolz” system, a majority of people poisoned by drugs both ‘legal’ and ‘illegal’, a long-standing, largely debt-driven, speculative bubble “economy” valuing consumption over production, gambling over thrift, self-indulgence over self-reliance, and sensation over reflection and self-discipline. They, like the rest of us, are swimming against the tide, but the tide among Africans seems to be especially strong and persistant.

Is there any President of the USSA after say, Grover Cleveland, or at most, maybe Warren G. Harding or Calvin Coolidge, who wouldn’t be shot or hanged by any of the founding fathers of our Republic had they–the whitetrash politicians–been alive, much less holding public office in say 1800? to ask the question is to answer it, and we are talking about so-called “white” leadership here! The people whom they front for, the banksters, Hollywood elite, Wall Street and real-estate speculators, and lobotomyvision executives, are even worse!

When one considers additionally that, at the behest of the above vermin, we have all”lived” in a continuous state of “emergency” or war since 1941, and what this does to families, churches, workplaces, public associations, and news and entertainment media even in more civilized times, the chaos and misery pervading the majority, much less dependent minorities, must be truly mind boggling!!

Can Africans climb out of the degraded state over the next few generations? I certainly hope so, but some skepticism is in order.

Bostonian
9 years ago

LOL DKM did not even bother to refute me!!!

That is pretty priceless.

Bostonian
9 years ago

So it is established that DKM is truly, willfully, ignorant. He actively refuses to learn anything ever.

He cannot even name anything he has read that was published after 1985! I mean, I am not even a libertarian, and I know his libertarian statements are way out of date, thanks to Zhinxy, who was the one who noticed his lack of recent knowledge first.

captainbathrobe
9 years ago

@Bostonian,

Yeah but he implied that you can’t read, so he wins, or something.

Bostonian
9 years ago

Well he is a legend in his own mind. I know he thinks he wins because he is utterly ignorant of, well everything.

He does not even have basic human decency, as evidenced by his advocacy for domestic violence, forced prostitution, and slavery.

hellkell
hellkell
9 years ago

Ooooooooh, look at the old racist clutch his pearls over the black people.

Snort and eyeroll at “pseudo-matriarchy.”

Meller, you should probably go play with your dolls and calm down.

Holly Pervocracy
9 years ago

Wow, that was like every racist thing at once!

Oh, I mean every r-word thing at once. I wouldn’t want to hurt the feelings of a straight white man, who is the only objective observer of the world, and yet, paradoxically, the only person who really has feelings that can be hurt.

But it’s true, Irish people did change their behavior. They changed it from being persecuted more to being persecuted less.

If only those darn black people could learn to be persecuted less. It’s not that hard, guys! White people know how to do it from birth!