You may recall that all-dude panel of “experts” at that recent congressional hearing on contraception. One of the reasons it was an all-dude panel was that congressional Republicans wouldn’t let Georgetown law student Sandra Fluke testify on the costs of birth control. (She later testified at a separate hearing held by Nancy Pelosi.)
Apparently stating publicly how much contraception costs when it’s not covered by insurance is basically the equivalent of pooping on the flag to some misogynistic assholes, among them the always charming Rush Limbaugh, who has denounced Fluke as a “slut” and a whore, saying, at one point, that she
went before a Congressional committee and said she’s having so much sex she’s going broke buying contraceptives and wants us to buy them.
Actually, she didn’t testify about her own experience at all.
Also, does Limbaugh even know how contraception works? Yes, the number of condoms one buys depends on how often you have sex. (Or at the very least how often you hope to have sex. Who knows how many boxes of condoms, purchased in moments of optimism, have quietly expired on the shelf waiting for their purchasers to finally get their mojo working. )
But the costs of many other forms of contraception have no relation whatsoever to the frequency of sex. Women on “the pill” take a pill every day, regardless of whether they are having sex that day or not. Women using IUDs don’t run down to the health center to have one installed every time their vagina expects a visitor.
Birth control, in short, doesn’t work like Oxycontin or Viagra, the two pills about which Limbaugh seems most knowledgeable.
Sorry to belabor the obvious, which apparently isn’t so obvious if you’re a right-wing, woman-hating asshole.
Anyway, now Limbaugh seems to think he’s entitled to watch Fluke having sex:
So Miss Fluke, and the rest of you Feminazis, here’s the deal. If we are going to pay for your contraceptives, and thus pay for you to have sex. We want something for it. … We want you post the videos online so we can all watch.
Dude, what the fuck is wrong with you?
Here’s the excerpt from his radio show in which he makes this creepy demand.
Baffling is right. Can we pool our cash together to get IR/FF a one-way ticket to Sri Lanka? He could hang out with another of our awesome trolls and they could Explore Nature together.
We don’t need to devote a lot of time to bashing female MRAs, because dude MRAs do all the work for us.
My favorite bit: Girlwritewhat will only win some MRA basement-troll’s respect when she testifies in front of congress
*Girlwriteswhat
Correcting myself for googling purposes. 😀
Also, I think Girlwriteswhat is Canadian, so good luck with that congress thing.
Rush wants to watch women having sex…riiight. I have a feeling that he might change his opinion if he was watching a typical woman having sex as opposed to watching porn barbie dolls (women who are a) very young and b) conform to a gendered ideal of beauty so rigid that only women who look like the toy are suitable) put on a performance. Very different things to watch.
Although I enjoy thinking about him watching a femdom in action. I figure either his head will explode or his balls will immediately shrivel up and fall off. What can I say, I’m evil that way.
Is IR the most fucked-up brony ever?
The real question is “what about the health of coal miners who use hormonal BC?”
WON’T SOMEONE THINK OF THE COAL MINERS!!???
(Also, I would bet good money that FF hasn’t been anywhere near a coal mine in a good long while. They’re not quite so Industrial Revolution Poverty Porn anymore.)
Maybe this happened at Idealogue’s college and he’s just bitter about it? 😛
Dude, seriously: THERE ARE PLACES WHERE YOU CAN GET CONDOMS FOR FREE! YOU DON’T HAVE TO PAY FOR THEM! Go to Planned Parenthood, they’ll give you a whole bag!
Also, all the condoms I bought for the last kink event I attended were apparently actually bought by a man, because women never pay for birth control. Even when I used my own debit card and everything.
@Molly Ren
There are places to do that at my college too (just not student health). The Womens Resource Center WRC and the office of Gender and Sexual Orientation (the feminist and LGBT rights organizations in student government, respectively) can and do still give condoms away for free (they have close contact with the local chapters of planned parenthood too). Some workers at Student Health sometimes refer students to those organizations for free condoms and other related things “off the record.”
That being said, it shouldn’t have to come to that in the first place. I think the only reason those two organizations get away with it is that they are under the radar of the parents.
Public service announcement: Buying condoms in person at the drugstore is the worst deal. It’s okay for emergencies or if you only need condoms once in a long while, but if they’re a regular part of your sex life (and if you have a credit card and mailing address, obviously), go here:
http://www.amazon.com/Crown-Condoms-100-Pack/dp/B00328R2AS/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1330700039&sr=8-1
$18 for a giant bag of 100. I’ve been using them for years and never had one break, and I’ve never heard any complaints from my gentleman partners. Soooo much easier than paying the same amount for a 12-pack.
“The Womens Resource Center
WRC”(I am just full of mistakes today)
… Shit. Now I feel guilty for mocking someone who could have been seriously mentally ill. I don’t want to feel guilty for mocking Hitler. Fuck!
Falconer – “Genocide” is not a recognized symptom of any mental illness so I think you’re in the clear.
Also, he had lots of mentally ill people killed, so, you know.
I think it’s still okay to hate Hitler.
Wow. I…
You know, this statement has been thoroughly dissected by many of the other posters. And its logical fallacies and sheer what-the-fuckness have been duly noted. Besides that horse/aryan intellect thing you wrote later kind of tops it. But I digress.
IR/FF, you’re dumb. This argument, and your continued defense of it, is dumb. The fact that you’ve stated outright that it’s responsible for women to use birth control but, when confronted with your own statement, decided to bring up chemical castration, medieval skull drilling, and assorted other fuckery to contradict your own point is just… well… it’s dumb.
You’re dumb.
I’m sorry if I said something dumb. It was just a twinge of “mental illness isn’t funny” coupled with “mental illness isn’t evil.”
Holly, you may have changed my life.
(Also, my latest CVS buy *was* an emergency. Last-minute gangbang invite FTW! :D)
I wish he’d explain that glorious phrase more. I know he’ barking up the wrong tree, I’d just like to know which one it is!
@Xardoz
Oh hells no!! We are not going to inflict that man on Lanka, especially if he’s gonna be travelling around on that horse of his. If anything, we should get EN a vacay out to the States. No one’ll understand wtf he’s saying, and he can explore to his grinch-sized heart’s content!
@Ami
Judging from his posts. he cares as much about the argument. He’s just here to mine quotes to post on his blog for no one to see.
Maybe he is trolling for hits? It’s pretty sad that his fellow MRAs do not read his blog.
Insurance typically covers Viagra. Those priests apparently don’t feel violated by having to pay for a man to get his dick up, even if that man isn’t married, and even if he doesn’t want children. This doesn’t seem to offend anyone. How come?
Men who have “leisure sex” also don’t have to cover any part of the costs of abortion, pregnancy or child birth. How come? Wouldn’t that come under the definition of “paying for leisure sex”?
Interesting observation: While looking up the link for Viagra coverage, I also did a search on erectile dysfunction. You know what I’ve noticed? Not one blog, not one news story, not one comment even remotely admonishing impotent men that they should just give up on having sex. Not one “suck it up”. Not one “you are too old for sex anyway”. Not one “impotence is a normal part of aging, deal with it”. Not one “we shouldn’t have to pay for you to be able to get your jollies off, you filthy sex-haver”. I clicked on every link for four pages and every one of those sites was sympathetic to men with erectile dysfunction, regardless of circumstances. If only women who want to have sex and remain healthy encountered that kind of compassion.
I really need to figure out how to work IR’s phrase into ordinary conversation:
“I’m going to saddle up my gleaming opulent horse of superior Aryan intellect, and go the fuck home.”
Summary of Thread:
MBZ Posters: Birth Control is a prescription medication. Here are all of the reasons why it’s great that it’s a prescription medication, including its non-contraceptive uses!
IR/FF: JUST BECAUSE IT’S PRESCRIPTION DOESN’T MEAN IT’S GOOD.
I just want to point out that Rick “Rape babies are gifts too” Santorum thinks Rush went too far:
https://twitter.com/#!/pdicarlocnn/status/175670424728903680
Also, president Obama called the woman at the center of this, and commended her for speaking up and sticking to her values
http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-pn-rush-limbaugh-obama-calls-sandra-fluke-to-express-support-20120302,0,6050153.story
@grinner
All that tells me is that even Santorum isn’t stupid enough to align himself with Limbaugh. Dude is fucking ca-ray-zay, and everybody knows it. Kinda like Glenn Beck, just more experienced and with a more loyal fanbase.
IR is even more of a shitbag than I thought.
Fun fact, Mr. “Gleaming horse of Aryan Intellect”: There’s no such thing as an Aryan Race, although the closest to it would be you know, India. Hitler sucked at history. So do you.
It reminds me of some Fox news anchorwoman calling out a “child psychologist” who was saying that watching Chad Bono on Dancing with the Stars would “turn children trans/gay” for saying things that were unsubstantiated by the American Child Psychology(ist?) Association…
When people generally accepted to be far right and kinda gone as it is call you out for going too far… where are you?
I just wonder what goes through their minds.
The fact that you’ve stated outright that it’s responsible for women to use birth control but, when confronted with your own statement, decided to bring up chemical castration, medieval skull drilling, and assorted other fuckery to contradict your own point is just… well… it’s dumb.
@Nobinayamu – I was actually referring to a statement that began with insulting me, not some brilliant expose which left me paralyzed by its brilliance. But hey, whatever gets you through the day.
You talk about your superior feminist intelligence a lot, by the way. Why are feminists here are still virgin shaming knowing full well that antifeminists earn more and people find rich mates more desirable?