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Can Reddit handle the truth?

Shaming: Does not always work with dogs.

So the other day I got an interesting comment from a new fan. And by “fan,” I mean someone who hates my guts. “Casper” makes what he evidently thinks is a devastating indictment of my main modus operandi – that is, quoting misogynist dunderheads, and mocking them.

Clever. You encourage hatred towards men while using their own language to shame them. …

You’re just a hate-mongerer albeit an intelligent and creative one. Hitler would have just loved you

That’s right. I “encourage hatred towards men” by reporting what some dudes actually post on the internet, usually under a fake name that can’t be traced back to them. Pointing out when someone says something shitty evidently makes me as bad as Hitler.  (I should note that I mock specific men, not men in general, and that I also mock specific women with similar opinions.)

Casper also complains that “[e]ven the name of your site is an effort to shame men.” Again, I should point out that the dumb punny title of this blog isn’t directed at all men, merely those who act like misogynist boobs (or, if you prefer, boobz). “Boob” is pretty much the mildest insult I can think of, not to mention one that is a bit archaic; it’s a bit like calling someone a ruffian or a jackanape. Frankly, it’s far too nice a name for many of the people I write about here.

Of course, Casper isn’t the only one who feels that pointing out the offensive crap that people say is somehow equivalent of starting a death camp in your backyard. Take the many critics of ShitRedditSays.

For those who aren’t familiar with the ways of Reddit, ShitRedditSays (or SRS) is a user-created forum (subreddit) on Reddit devoted to pointing out some of the worst, most bigoted and awful crap posted on Reddit that nonetheless gets upvotes and acclaim from Reddit regulars.

The SRS modus operandi may seem a bit familiar to anyone who reads Man Boobz: SRSers find highly upvoted crap on Reddit and post it to their subreddit, where others react with horror and/or laugh about how hilariously awful it is. They don’t send out “downvote brigades” to downvote the crap they link to; they don’t try to track the bigots down in the real world and harass them. No, SRSers post what they find, and they mock.

On a couple of occasions, they’ve gone further. When they discovered that actual child porn was being circulated in Reddit’s “Jailbait” subreddit, a hangout for ephebophile creepers to creep on pictures of underage girls, SRSers spread the word beyond Reddit, and the resulting media attention led to Reddit finally deleting that subreddit.

Problem solved? Not exactly; the creepers merely moved on to any number of other subreddits devoted to the sexualization of underage girls. And so SRS struck again, alerting the media to the fact that Reddit still hosted a forum even creepier than r/jailbait – that is, r/preteen_girls, devoted to sexualized pictures of girls under the age of 13. This time, the Reddit admins moved more quickly, and banned all the subreddits that, in their words, “focus on sexualization of children.”

And apparently the Reddit admins are still pissed off about it. Recently, someone on Reddit leaked the log of a private chat between a Reddit moderator and one of the site’s administrators (that is, someone who actually works at Reddit). (See here and here for more details.)

The admin, known as hueypriest, described SRS’s attempts to get child porn and other material sexualizing children off of Reddit as “kind of like a forrest [sic]  fire,” and grumbled about SRSers and other opponents of child porn sending “frivolous tips” to the FBI:

the fbi is not interested in following up leads of 17 year olds who’s boyfriends post shit on the internet

And evidently neither was Reddit, until SRSers and others revealed what was going on in its sleaziest subreddits to the world.

Again, all SRS did was to point out what was there.

Ever since Reddit’s belated shutdown of what hueypriest euphemistically described as the “questionable” subreddits, there’s a lot of talk on Reddit about how SRS needs to be shut down.

A couple of comments in the SubredditDrama subreddit pretty much sum up the frustrations a lot of us feel towards Reddit’s admins and many of the site’s users. 1338h4x writes:

Subreddits sexualizing kids? Let that slide for 5 years until the public pressure and bad PR is finally too much. Subreddit calling out sexism, bigotry, etc? SHUT IT DOWN RIGHT NOW!

This would just be the ultimate validation of SRS’s message. I dare them to do it.

Matriarchy adds:

Making reddit look bad = the worst thing. Perhaps they should stay on the ball and actually get rid off the terrible shit in advance … you know, that way they don’t look bad by having a policy that tacitly allows child pornography to remain on the website for extended periods of time.

You would think this is a no-brainer. Apparently this is not the case~

Apparently.

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jumbofisch
9 years ago

Done already mags?

magdelyn
9 years ago

Well, good night good people. You’re beginning to bore me. I am tired of propping up this entire conversation. But, at least I learned how to spell fellatio. Off to watch interracial porn.

Lauralot
9 years ago

That’s nice. We’re all very shocked and impressed.

Bostonian
9 years ago

See you next time you need to defend the indefensible!

Viscaria
Viscaria
9 years ago

I read “interracial porn” and I immediately thought, “porn with aliens!?” and then I realized that was impossible. Shouldn’t porn featuring actors of different races just be called, um, porn?

Steph
9 years ago

@Magdelyn — this is totally unrelated to anything, and I disagree with you on like everything but I LOVE YOUR HAIR. I totally just noticed it now. The pictures are very small and for the entire time I’ve been seeing yours my brain interpreted it as someone looking down and sort of sucking her cheeks in while putting her hands on the side of her head; it looked very strange! Then suddenly, it all just snapped into place like a Magic Eye picture and I saw that the reality was very different, and you have AWESOME PINK HAIR. I blame my monitor being at an angle and blending all the dark bits together and making the pink parts more red.
(This isn’t weird to say or anything, is it? I’m not trying to be sarcastic here, I really do like it.)

Shadow
Shadow
9 years ago

@Viscaria

Don’t be silly. How can you fetishize it if you accept it as normal?

/sarcasm

katz
9 years ago

Well, Liz, may I call you Liz

I’M PATRONIZING YOU DID YOU NOTICE

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
9 years ago

I also think Mags has cool hair. Shame that her taste in friends and associates isn’t as good as her taste in hair color.

benwalsh
benwalsh
9 years ago

“Crumbelievable”, you say the following:

“A few months ago, Reddit chose one particular user named AnnArbor as its’ Redditor of the Day’.”

That’s just not true. “Reddit” doesn’t choose a “Redditor of the Day”, ever. You simply don’t know how Reddit works.

Xanthe
Xanthe
9 years ago

Earlier it seems as though Ben Walsh had been trying to defend Shreddit with one of the typical “Yes, but…” responses … Yes, but… It’s the Internet, and there are lots of idiots on the Internet, so how can this ever be helped! And besides, not all of Shreddit is like that! Uhh… except for the fact that such misogyny often gets highly upvoted. And as for the creepiness of the subreddits recently deleted such as r/jailbait?

As far as arcane insults go, noisome coxcomb and “thou naughty varlet” are favourites of mine.

Xardoz
Xardoz
9 years ago

What David said. I even found a link:

http://www.reddit.com/r/redditoroftheday/comments/mtf3g/annarchist_redditor_of_the_day_november_29_2011/

Anything else you want to be wrong about, benwalsh?

Xardoz
Xardoz
9 years ago

While I was redditing, I found a paean to 1950s America. Both of the comments are disapproving, but keep in mind Reddit contains the most reasonable MRAs on the internet (which is a sure sign your movement’s nuts).

Since Mags brought racism and the MRA, I thought it was relevant. Jim Crow, anyone?

ithiliana
9 years ago

Am just realizing that Casper is making the same complaint DKM does: that we post his OWN WORDS to condemn him!

I am still trying to imagine what sort of magical thinking goes on to result in the claim that posting people’s words is mean and awful (now, it’s true that taking a quote out of context can often be used to support a meaning that was not in the original context–but that is why in academic writing, all quotes, summaries, paraphrases need to be attributed, so the reader can check it out).

And David always does exactly that: he doesn’t just dump a random quote; he gives a link to the source and summarizes the background etc. The hateful shit that is their language is not taken out of context.

Side note: that is one of the most adorable dogs EVAH! *smoochies and cuddles*

Crumbelievable
Crumbelievable
9 years ago

@David: My mistake, sorry.

@Xardoz: Of course Ferdinand would be nostalgic for the 1950’s. Why not…

hellkell
hellkell
9 years ago

Bostonian – that’s your first problem, confusing MRA’s with rapists, pedos and racists.,

Pull the other one, it’s got bells on it.

pillowinhell
9 years ago

What’s to be confused about MRAs when they keep telling us how hot little girls make them, when they post pictures of their foreign bride cooking meals bare foot and in the kitchen, when their solution to women who use their brains is to kill them or rape them? And look at the comments…when a few men try to be more reasonable they are shamed and down voted.

The only thing that confuses me is why any woman would want to be near these guys let alone defend them. Oh wait, its not their Nigel!

Crumbelievable
Crumbelievable
9 years ago

http://www.the-spearhead.com/2010/09/15/how-female-suffrage-destroyed-western-civilization/

This website in no way represents mainstream MRM opinion.

Except, oh wait, last week I read some Reddit MRAs commenting that The Spearhead was now the most popular MRA site ahead of Glenn Sacks’s.

Crumbelievable
Crumbelievable
9 years ago

@Pillow: That Uncle Elmer article was one of the most laughably pathetic things I’ve seen in a long time. MRAs are getting pretty desperate for things to talk about, it seems.

BlackBloc
BlackBloc
9 years ago

>>that’s your first problem, confusing MRA’s with rapists, pedos and racists.

I think the problem is MRA’s confusing ‘men’s rights’ with the ‘right’ to rape, the ‘right’ to pedophilia and the ‘right’ to be racism.

BlackBloc
BlackBloc
9 years ago

to be racist.

pillowinhell
9 years ago

You know.. I think its time to start talking about the need for the average man voting. Because you know, keeping a nation running has far more to do with looking looking at the well being of major business and resources than just looking after your little woman and whatever resulting brats you’ve spawned. I think we should rescind the vote for the majority of men, and put it in the hands of the wisest, who are of course the major capital owners in this country. Really, this civilization has totally fallen apart since we gave the vote to men who aren’t propertied. Not to mention how much the average male bitches and whines for more money to support his interests. All those men who believe they are entitled to government funding when they are clearly too lazy and poorly educated to find work! And we should also cut off any sort of grants for higher education to men, clearly if you can’t afford to pay for an education upfront in cash, you have no business receiving loans that you very likely won’t be able to repay in a timely manner. Same goes for mortgages, learn to build your own home or do without.

Also, I think we should start posting pics of our male lovers, gushing about how compliant they are while fixing ours cars.

PosterformerlyknownasElizabeth

Well, Liz, may I call you Liz, those of use with privilege are just so blind to it…blah blah blah.

No you may not. It is Poster, PFKAE or Elizabeth.

Crumbelievable
Crumbelievable
9 years ago

That reminds me of how Stephen Colbert always asks his guest something like, “Can I call you Frank?” and then when they say “No,” he says, “Frank…”

Quackers
Quackers
9 years ago

@Crumbelievable

and yet every comment there that disagrees with taking away women’s right to vote, that says perhaps it’s just a leeeeeetle bit too extreme, is hidden by a low comment rating.

Abortions and single mothers are destroying the west because they get to vote and make their own choices about their lives!!! it has absolutely nothing at all to do with MALE politicians, who spiraled the US into dept by starting wars where they send MEN to die, and then bail out corporations mainly run by MEN effectively screwing over the common MAN, WOMAN, QUEER AND TRANS.

Nope. America is being destroyed because mommy and daddy aren’t living together anymore and mommy is a bitch.

Gotta love MRA “logic”

Rutee Katreya
9 years ago

MRAL generally claims to be one of the ‘moderate’ MRAs, ultimately. He wants the MRM to be more effective at hating bitches.

It’s pretty fucking disturbing how cis-sexist, heterosexist, racist, ablist, and classist, the MRM is. Feminism is by no means unflawed here – nothing is – but you at least have to throw a dead cat to hit some racist or heterosexist shit, not poke anyone next to you.

BrianX
BrianX
9 years ago

Viscaria:

It should be, but the fact that there are way too many racist shitbags who get off on seeing white women getting “violated” means that for the foreseeable future, interracial will still be a recognized category.

Buttman
Buttman
9 years ago

Quackers:

“Abortions and single mothers are destroying the west because they get to vote and make their own choices about their lives!!! ”

I don’t find anything incorrect with the first part of your statement. Entire populations are being replaced by 3rd world immigrants. These people come from cultures that would make you prefer a nation of MRA’s. Even the most liberal nations like Sweden have population areas that are no-go for women.

Single mothers are only single mothers because the welfare state has created incentive for women to become single mothers. It’s your body, your choice, but you want everyone else to pay for your decisions. You want free birth control, free abortions, free health care, free housing, free food, etc. That’s in addition to the absurdity of “child support” that has been created as part of the welfare state. By every measure, children from single parent households do worse.

zhinxy
9 years ago

Mags – Yeah, see, I’m constantly told that feminism is mostly a lot of white academics getting the vapors over things outside their spoiled little bubble, and I’m constantly having the bulk of my feminist discussions with women who are nowhere near that world. While I respect that you are a trans person and a sex worker too, the conversations I have about both organization and theory, ALL THE TIME, with poor women, trans women, sex working women, immigrant women… Well, there’s plenty of griping about academic this and that there, but plenty of dealing with things in the real world, and plenty of discussion of theory. There’s classism in feminism, there’s “white academic feminism,” but the sexism discussions I have with most of the women I know are about what they really experience in a world that’s got not a lot to do with ivory towers.

zhinxy
9 years ago

“You simply don’t know how Reddit works.”

Burn! Oh, I love that. LOVE IT. HAHAHHAHAHAHA

Crumbelievable
Crumbelievable
9 years ago

I don’t understand Mag’s involvement in the MRM at all. Call it a hunch, but I don’t think MRAs take very kindly to sex workers or transwomen for that matter.

Cloudiah
Cloudiah
9 years ago

Can we use this story to prove that all MRA’s always lie about fathers being denied the right to see their kids after a divorce?
http://www.dailydot.com/news/facebook-mark-byron-slander-wife-apology/

The picture makes it look like it was a female judge, but if you click the court documents link you’ll see the judge was clearly a mangina. /sarcasm

Rutee Katreya
9 years ago

I don’t understand Mag’s involvement in the MRM at all. Call it a hunch, but I don’t think MRAs take very kindly to sex workers or transwomen for that matter.

Mags has posted some pretty cis-sexist shit for the MRM as well as misogynistic. So you know, she’s not really slacking here.

Crumbelievable
Crumbelievable
9 years ago

On what sites?

Crumbelievable
Crumbelievable
9 years ago

I tried to search to see if I could find any articles she’s written and found this:

http://whatmenthinkofwomen.blogspot.com/2011/03/tranny-mra-i-loathe-feminism.html

” I must admit that I have problems with gays, only to the extent that their sex life appalls me but I do not have any problems with them as being a member of the human race.”

“But I cannot say that I have ever come across an MRA tranny before. But have a read what she/he states..”

Wow, such a ringing endorsement from THE Christian J.

Rutee Katreya
9 years ago

The perennial “TRANS WOMEN HAVE TO DISCLOSE” threads on r/mr (Because that’s a matter of men’s rights, yanno), at the very least.

But you know, that’s not really a surprise. She’s basically trying her hardest to get into the club. That’s what all massively misogynist women are doing. Why’s Ann Coulter do it? Phyllis Schlafly? Beverly LaHaye?

Kyrie
Kyrie
9 years ago

Any woman involved in the MRM need a solid dose of self-hate and/or the belief that “she’s not like all these other women”. (which is a quite common variety of sexism among women)

And on her blog, she does describe herself as a “self-hating, self-destructive, profoundly lonely, stupid broad.”

Crumbelievable
Crumbelievable
9 years ago

Oops, my comment went to moderation because I used the “t-word” in quoting someone. Sorry, David, I’ll be more careful next time.

Anyway, I had found an entry on ‘What Men Think of Women’ where Christian speaks somewhat favorably of Mags while calling her a “tr**ny MRA” and using “he/she” as a pronoun. Mags must feel so loved.

kristinmh
kristinmh
9 years ago

Hey guys! Just popping in totally OT to let you know that I had the baby! He was born Monday morning at 9 and is totally awesome. We’re calling him Cecil.

So now I can raise my very own feminist mangina white knight! Awesome!

(Also, I have literally been lounging around in bed eating bonbons for the past few days as the midwife recommended I stay in bed until today to recover. But at the same time I have been allowing a male to suck on my nipples every two or three hours, so I guess we’re even! XD )

kristinmh
kristinmh
9 years ago

Oh, and a picture: http://twitpic.com/8n9w3c

red_locker
9 years ago

Awww. 🙂 Congrats, comrade, and keep the faith in the Feminazi Order!

hellkell
hellkell
9 years ago

Congrats, Kristin! He’s adorable.

Pecunium
9 years ago

Kristen: If you need help in training him up in the ways of righteousness, I have it on no less an Authority than NWO that I am a White Night Par Exellence. DKM also speaks highly of me in this regard.

Swords, and spears, and things which go boom, a specialty. 🙂

Dracula
Dracula
9 years ago

Awww, congratulations Kristin!

Myoo
Myoo
9 years ago

Congratulations, Kristin. He’s very cute.

Viscaria
Viscaria
9 years ago

Aw, what a cute little guy he is. Congratulations.

KathleenB
KathleenB
9 years ago

kristinmh: Congratulations! He’s adorable and I look forward to reports of his white knight training.

Polliwog
Polliwog
9 years ago

Awww, he’s adorable! Congrats!

Crumbelievable
Crumbelievable
9 years ago

“Who’s a little mangina? You are! Yes you are!”