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The hard life of the Alpha male. Get it? Get it? It's a double entendre. Heh heh. Penis.

Now in pill form.

Life is tough for the beta male. During his twenties, as Manosphere dudes never tire of reminding us, women reject him, choosing instead to throw themselves wantonly at caddish alpha males.

Only after these cruel, callous women have squandered their youth and beauty – by the age of 30 if not earlier – do they turn at last to the betas, who’ve been patiently waiting in the “friend zone” the whole time. Those poor betas, nice guys and good providers all, are then lured into marriage with these now-ugly shrews, who are no longer interested in sex, and want only their money, often used to provide for kids sired by alpha males. (See here for Holly Pervocracy’s more detailed analysis of the “Greek system.”)

But life can be tough for the alpha male as well, driven to exhaustion by nearly constant sex with an incredible array of horny twentysomething women. The movie trailer below will give you some idea of just what the typical alpha male has to deal with on a daily basis.

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Brandon
Brandon
12 years ago

@Pillow: The majority of the feminists I have met along with the major feminist talking heads (Valenti, Marcotte, McEwan, etc…) has shown that I have a statistically better chance calling a feminist ugly as opposed to gorgeous. Jill at Feministe is probably one of the more attractive ones…and even she isn’t drop dead gorgeous.

Also, what do I really have to lose in calling her ugly? It’s not like Hellkell and I are friends or I want to sleep with her…

Sharculese
12 years ago

Suck on what? Was that your insult? Better luck next time Uggo

this is pathetic, even for you

flail harder, brah, maybe you’ll hit something eventually

Sharculese
12 years ago

Also, what do I really have to lose in calling her ugly?

i would say your dignity, but that ship sailed long ago, so good point, i guess?

Viscaria
Viscaria
12 years ago

Sometimes when Brandon condescends to grace us with his lofty presence, I like to play a game I call “Deliberately Obtuse, or Actually That Dense?”

Pecunium said:

When men treat women as people, with agency and interests and all the stuff that goes with being more than a warm hole attached to a conniving bitch, they do pretty well.

Then Brandon said:

How do men NOT treat women like people? And if men aren’t treating women like people…then what are those men treating women as? Kites? Baboons? Tables? Inquiring minds want to know. Last I checked, women seem to have their own thoughts, bodies and opinions.

Why, women do have our own thoughts, bodies and opinions! Some men — a minority, thankfully — either aren’t aware of this, or don’t seem to care about it when they’re interacting with women. Those would be the men that Pecunium was referencing. If you’re not one of those men, Brandon, that’s awesome! And by “that’s awesome,” I mean “that meets a very minimum standard of human decency.”

So, does Brandon get that he was essentially answering his own question? Is he being deliberately obtuse, or is he actually that dense?

Hellkell helpfully explained:

But to answer your question, Lord Aboveitall, treating women like people means not treating women like fuckdolls with pulses.

and Brandon said:

@hellkell: What the hell is a “fuckdoll with a pulse”? Or do you just not like guys that value their own orgasm over yours?

No! That’s an entirely different (though still pretty rude) thing than not viewing women as anything other than fuckholes! Are you being deliberately obtuse, or are you actually that dense?

And then we get to my favourite part:

@Hellkell: I bet you don’t like it because most men just treat you like a hole to fuck and they wont care about or love you back.

And just to be clear, I am saying you’re a bitch because men treat you like a “fuckdoll with a pulse” and you don’t like that. Instead of bashing men, why don’t you try and make yourself more attractive (physically and personality wise) so men might actually like, care and love you.

Somehow we have gotten from “all men treat women like people!” to “I don’t understand what a ‘fuckdoll with a pulse’ is, but I’m pretty sure it’s a totally okay thing!” to “we were clearly talking about hellkell’s sex life this entire time, and yes, men treat her like she’s not a person, but she deserves it!”

So, what do we think? Deliberately Obtuse, or Actually That Dense? I’m going with deliberately obtuse for the most part, but dense enough that it makes some difference to the overall outcome.

Holly Pervocracy
12 years ago

I think Brandon calls women “ugly” because the only thing he cares about in a woman is fuckability, so he figures that must be the only thing we value in ourselves.

…Remember, this whole argument started because someone accused him of not respecting women. So I think he’s thoroughly proving his respect right now.

Brandon
Brandon
12 years ago

@Amused: I think I am good. I am agreeable with most people…just not feminists.

hellkell
hellkell
12 years ago

Uggo? Is that the best you got? Oh, well, they can’t all be winners.

For a guy who fancies himself such an independent thinker, all the moldy oldies come right out. Next up, I’m fat. THE HORROR!!!

pillowinhell
12 years ago

Just remember Brandon, you’ll be thirty five or forty, and all the gorgeous girls your chasing are going to be laughing at you. I bet by then you won’t have youth on your side either. And then you will be nothing more to them than a walking wallet. As for ugly, hm. I think feminists consider that they have more important things to do with their lives then spend it in front of a mirror. Most of the women you sneer on that aren’t what I’d call ugly.

hellkell
hellkell
12 years ago

Viscaria, I’m going to go with Actually That Dense.

I feel totes respected right now. XD

Bostonian
Bostonian
12 years ago

Thing is, Brandon, it just flat plain makes you look like a immature idiot, that ugly is your go to insult.

Also, it bolsters the case of you being a misogynist, which you have consistently demonstrated over time here in the comments.

Molly Ren
12 years ago

What if you’re fat, ugly, AND still have people that care for you? OH NOES BRANDON HOW WILL YOU INSULT US NOW?

Brandon
Brandon
12 years ago

@Holly: I called her ugly because on average women are sensitive about being called that and she was/is being a snarky little dickhole. It has nothing to do with hellkell’s “fuckability”.

Molly Ren
12 years ago

I called her ugly because on average women are sensitive about being called that and she was/is being a snarky little dickhole. It has nothing to do with hellkell’s “fuckability”.

Damn, Brandon doesn’t even know how insults work. “I called you something that actually doesn’t mean that, a lot of women just take it that way for some reason!”

Sharculese
12 years ago

Just remember Brandon, you’ll be thirty five or forty, and all the gorgeous girls your chasing are going to be laughing at you. I bet by then you won’t have youth on your side either.

contrary to what his total lack of maturity might suggest, brandon is in his thirties. let that sink in.

Brandon
Brandon
12 years ago

@Pillow: Doubtful. I know 40-50 year old men that still are able to date girls in their late 20’s. Hell, my 55 year old uncle just brought over his 31 year old date at the last family gathering 2 weekends ago.

pillowinhell
12 years ago

Brandon, why would any feminist give a shit about what some random dude thinks of us? What’s to be sensitive about? Its not as if we consider the random insults of a passerby to be that important when we know they are trolling. Its the type of women who you date that would take that far more seriously.

Jill the Spinster
Jill the Spinster
12 years ago

So, what do we think? Deliberately Obtuse, or Actually That Dense?

Or goldfish memory? In one thread he spews 3 different viewpoints????

hellkell
hellkell
12 years ago

So I guess it’s cool to call him a tiny-dicked assgasket. Since men get uptight about that and all.

Holly Pervocracy
12 years ago

I’m really bored of Brandon now. I think we need to get back to talking about “Alpha Male” shenanigans.

One of my favorites is the guys who say you mustn’t “supplicate” to women, which is sort of true in the sense of “don’t bring flowers to a girl who barely knows your name,” but not for the reasons they think.

More often, though, they use it as justification for just being straight up rude. They get the attitude “women have been deliberately hurting my feelings by not-having-sex-with me, so I’m going to hurt their feelings back!” And then they wonder why they don’t get laid. Must be a problem with women.

Brandon
Brandon
12 years ago

@Pillow: If it didn’t bother you, you wouldn’t be asking me questions about it.

Holly Pervocracy
12 years ago

…Okay, I do have to point out that “ugly” is a particularly pathetic insult when you don’t know what someone looks like.

Kinda takes out any possibility of an “oh no, what if he’s right?” sting.

Molly Ren
12 years ago

@Holly: Yah, the “supplication” thing always made me curious. Would your “free” chocolate guy be considered “supplicating”?

Crumbelievable
Crumbelievable
12 years ago

The majority of the feminists I have met along with the major feminist talking heads (Valenti, Marcotte, McEwan, etc…) has shown that I have a statistically better chance calling a feminist ugly as opposed to gorgeous

Is it worth explaining to you that ideas of what is “ugly” and what is “gorgeous” are completely subjective? Probably not.

pillowinhell
12 years ago

Holy shit! From the way he talks I would have thought he was nineteen!

Also, brandon, the guy I’m with is 47, I’m ten years younger. What’s your point?

Sharculese
12 years ago

@Pillow: If it didn’t bother you, you wouldn’t be asking me questions about it.

it bothers me how someone could get so far into life and still be so childish, i’ll admit. i don’t think that’s really the same thing tho

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