Life is tough for the beta male. During his twenties, as Manosphere dudes never tire of reminding us, women reject him, choosing instead to throw themselves wantonly at caddish alpha males.
Only after these cruel, callous women have squandered their youth and beauty – by the age of 30 if not earlier – do they turn at last to the betas, who’ve been patiently waiting in the “friend zone” the whole time. Those poor betas, nice guys and good providers all, are then lured into marriage with these now-ugly shrews, who are no longer interested in sex, and want only their money, often used to provide for kids sired by alpha males. (See here for Holly Pervocracy’s more detailed analysis of the “Greek system.”)
But life can be tough for the alpha male as well, driven to exhaustion by nearly constant sex with an incredible array of horny twentysomething women. The movie trailer below will give you some idea of just what the typical alpha male has to deal with on a daily basis.
vsh: Truly, a work of staggering intellect. Why, the greatest mind of the past century – nay, TWO centuries – would tremble before the might of your mind.
Go hunt me a mammoth, creeper.
One of the reasons I keep coming back to this board is because so many of our trolls come out with something that would actually be progressive if they didn’t back it up in the weirdest way possible. Sometimes they advocate for male birth control–not because it’s a worthwhile thing for all genders to be able to control their own reproduction, but because all women want to trap you into making babies. Other times they support women being able to work outside the home–but it’s only because marriage is for suckers.
Now, they’re arguing that dominant women do, in fact, exist, which is something that’s rare even in the BDSM community. But vhs thinks this is true because femdoms *really* just want to make men as *unattractive* as possible? o.O
Sooo gay men don’t really exist vsh? Its all just a “femdom conspiracy” XDXDXD
vsh: I just read the OP again… Dave never mentioned you. No one here asked you to speak, so just keep your fingers in your lap and you might learn something.
Well, no, I don’t think so. You are deluded. You’ve built a myth of how the world works and any actual facts (like the fondness of women for yaoi or that they like sex for the sake of sex, and “status”, Α/Β/Μ/Θ/Φ/Ω what the fuckever you want to call the fairies in your little fantasyland have nothing to do with it.
Facts be damned, as far as you’re concerned, so there’s no point in trying to help you see the error of your ways. You want to wallow in the Slough of Despond, go to. None so blind as those who will not see, etc..*
We’ll go on living happy, satisfied lives. The feminists among us (the women and the men) will continue to fuck whom they want. Make love to whom they want. Not fuck whom they want. Love whom they want, and pity those who (take a look in the mirror) who refuse to admit this simple fact.
Men and Women are so much more alike than they are different that the only sensible thing to do is treat them as equals.
*NB, this is not an MRA double period, it’s a stop after an abbreviation
@vsh:
‘gay’: you keep using that word. I do no think it means what you think it means.
See, in my world, gay men are a group of people who are… not very interested (sexually or romantically) in people like me (ie women). Therefore I don’t want all men to turn gay, I have zero interest in that, especially not if I want to control them. (The idea of “controlling with pussy” a gay man is absurd)
My question still stand, vsh: why do you care about sex? If the purpose if sex is sociosexual power and the purpose of the previous is sex, I would conclude that neither gave value.
Vsh, please go watch this and then never come back:
Bdsm: you know there are men who do find it sexy? And they don’t give a shit if you like it?
Having plenty of youtube video doesn’t prove your world view is right. It’s like you were trying to convince me you’re a prince because Disney sell a lot of movie.
You do realize we don’t actually have that power, right? Well, we could try, but even without the cute ending, the video doesn’t break youtube policy on copyright or anything else.
Great news! Being a douchebag is not illegal, even (lol) on the internet!
@formerElizabeth: this looks like an accurate description of PUAs. Great video.
I’d just like to say, as an asexual, that yaoi is still hot as hell. As is yuri, for that matter.
So…women sexually fantasize about beta males so more men will become betas, so there will be fewer alphas, who are the only men women are really attracted to. Because women want fewer attractive men around. And the men they find attractive are the opposite of the men they have sex fantasies about.
I think I just tore something in my brain.
Dude, not even female chimps want alpha male chimps. Look it up; the betas get laid more, probably because they’re not tired out from defending their status with other males.
@Shaenon
Me too. I fear some of us just lack the incredible agility to follow these amazing gymnasts
“Go hunt me a mammoth, creeper.”
Tshirt!
Huh, I thought they were only weird outliers? And many nerdy women who write tend to be quite socially awkward as well. (in b4: “they are just ugly geeks who can’t get laid!!!!11!”)
Uhhh, if I told you that one of my female friends who writes (smoking hot, I gotta admit) fiction where quite manly and not at all “emasculated” (nice homophobia there) guys (who you would probably see as “alphas”) have quite rough sex, you would probably just see that as proof that women dig alphas. So it there a way that will convince you that some women just dig good looking guys?
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I know there are some bi/homophobic women who think that sex with guys who had sex with other guys is icky, but there are also many women who really dig having two dudes make out with each other, and wanting to have a threesome with them! I talk from experience.
It’s what being objectified can feel like.
I’m just gonna ignore the homophobia and get straight to this.
What the fuck does it matter that some women like stuff that
mostsome people are not into? And now dommes are about forcing men to be women?You have no fucking idea about how BDSM works, have you?
Yeaaaaah…that’s why “yaoi” has a lot more results than PUA, and why shows like “True Blood” or the BBC “Sherlock” are pandering to women who dig that stuff are so popular, or why there is actually an industry of games with homoerotic content targeted to women.
Just a question: do you consider yourself a “nice guy”? Because, believe me, you are not nice by any stretch of the word. The reason women won’t date you isn’t because you are too nice, I assure you.
I am nerdy, socially awkward and shy as heck, yet there are women interested in me, even though I’m what you would call “nice”.
The difference is, I’m not nice to get laid, I’m nice because I genuinely enjoy being a decent human being and making people happy.
So, yeah. I think you really, REALLY underestimate women’s sexual agency.
I assure you, the women who dig gay porn don’t dig it because it’s “emasculating” to guys. They enjoy it because they like hot guys, the more, the better.
Again, you said you like fantasizing about hot lesbians. WHY IS IT DIFFERENT WHEN WOMEN DO IT?
vsh worst nightmare?
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