Sometimes it’s worth reminding ourselves that despite all the noise they make online, the Men’s Rights movement has basically no presence in the real world. The picture above is an actual photo of a men’s rights symposium at Montana State University. Here’s how the local NBC affiliate described what went down – or, more accurately, what didn’t go down:
The MSU chapter of the National Coalition for Men organized a symposium to raise awareness of problems in men’s lives.
The group geared the event towards fraternity students at the college and invited speakers to talk about things like men’s rights when it comes to sexual misconduct investigations on-campus.
No one showed up to the event but organizers say the lack of attendance is not due to a lack of interest.
You just keep telling yourself that.
Or rather, some MRAs somewhere have advanced degrees. Mike hasn’t made any sort of statement about his own level of education.
I must admit, for all that Mike is disgusting, I find myself giggling at the unintentional brilliance of “You suck, go cut your balls off, nanny nanny boo boo. So, now will you concede that we have valid points and are far more educated and successful than you?”
PROTIP: When trying to demonstrate how mature, intelligent, and well-educated you are, childish taunts are generally not the most effective way to go about that! Go figure!
C: He has a job which allows him to pursue hobbies, and one of his hobbies is mocking people who are evil, nasty and foul.
Given the the MRM and PUA communities seem to be chock full of such people, people who don’t condemn their fellows when they talk about raping people, or encouraging rape. People who say they would acquit people they were certain had raped, and give tutorials on how to be empaneled on a jury so that others can do the same.
People who think women should have no rights, and be treated as property, to be handed from father to husband as one might trade for a car, or a set of Star Wars figures. People who think that women who get beaten by their partner deserve it,and who say that what we need in this country is out and out war, Mens’ Rights Activists against the harpies, renegades and manginas (nice use of shaming language in your comment).
You might want to consider that there’s something mockworthy in a group (or groups, to hear them tell it) which announces a huge rally… and then has to cancel because of, “logistical issues” related to gathering in an open air, public space. A group that thinks bleating about how women are seeing how hard it is to be free because some of them died in a shipwreck. A group which thinks climbing onto bridges is the height of activism, a group which doesn’t do shit to help men who are being raped in prison, which would rather punish women then kick in to help men (see lawsuits in Calif., rather than spend that money to fund a shelter, they tried to close the one’s for women… that’s a piss poor sense of fairness.. everyone can suffer, isn’t that great?!?).
This is a group which says mass murderers, and those who advocate it, are heroes.
But those smart guys (which one’s, btw, are making more in a year than you think Dave will make in a lifetime… even at a conservative estimate (32,000USD, the Median income in the US, over a period of 45 years is 1,440,000USD, so you are saying Paul Elam is raking in 1.5 million a year? Or would that be Marky Mark? AnnArchist? Glenn Sacks? Fidelbogen?) are, to quote you, are all basically commenting on the same observations over and over again, can’t find more than a couple of things to talk about?
And when they do talk about them they can’t get them right. They refer to minor points, and lay all of modern feminism on a few dead people (whom they misquote; which means they are mendacious, or fail to understand what was being said), or a very select few names; and lay it on them because of singular points of disagreement (e.g. Amanda Marcotte and Duke).
What I see is a lot of those “big thinkers” spending a lot of time ripping into Manboobz. Why? If they are on the cusp of imminent victory, because of how that groundswell of men taking the “red pill” and being, “awakened” they can ignore such piddly little has beens, left on the ashheap of history by the rising tide of the MRM.
But they don’t. Case in point, you are here, preaching at us, telling us how we are wasting our time, and our effort. Why? If we are the time to crow is when we are beaten, not like Doctor No, telling Bond he expects him to die, as he leaves him to effect an escape.
I hear you whistling past the graveyard, unsure that the bogeymen of your childhood aren’t going to come riding out of the dark. The MRM is a fringe,and it’s a fringe which isn’t willing to get off it’s ass to do the hard work of becoming any sort of political entity.
Without that, it’s cheetos and mountain dew, and the cold light of the computer, instead of champagne and kleig-lights.
Just some food for thought.
Why so sensitive, Marky Mark? I am sorry you’re so upset…
The MRM is worth posting about because it’s both FUNNY and PATHETIC. Extra bonus points: It is also violent, transphobic, bigoted, and disgusting.You know what, it would be morally wrong NOT to make fun of you. DF has apparently decided not to be immoral, and therefore he is required to write about the MRM.
(BTW: There are these little things called facts proving that many MRA statements aren’t true, and also showing that most of those that are true and prove an injustice are not fought by feminists.I know facts are unimportant to MRAs, but for some reason I feel the need to raise them!)
But, but cloudiah! Advanced degrees! Wealth and repetition! Surely having money and saying things makes you right?! That’s how it works in MY America!
/sarcasm
So, Manboobz is bigger than the MRM combined? I didn’t realized you guys were so tiny. I knew you were little, but it’s that bad? i almost feel bad for you know.
*now
Well folks, there you have it.
MRAs are wealthy, educated and… repeat themselves.
It’s a winning movement. Or perhaps just an extremely delusional one.
For my part, I’ve enjoyed the time I’ve spent on Manboobz, but I’ve had enough exposure to the MRM. Don’t give them too much negative attention, they thrive on it.
See y’all later.
The idea that David is a feminist sleeper agent never gets less hilarious. 😀
Also, as nasty as that transphobic “fantasy” was that came after, why do I feel like I’ve seen “bloddy slit” before? Are MRAs just cutting and pasting past insults now, rather than bothering to say the same thing in different words?
Of course he’s a paid agent. It’s all the Rothchild money that international feminism has.
Sure, if by shaking in our boots you mean rolling our eyes and laughing. I know you red pill taking MRA’s love to repeat Ghandi’s quote “First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.” I hate to be the one to break this to you, but the MRM is going to be stuck in the “then they laugh at you stage”, much like the people that still believe the Apollo 11 lunar landing was faked. The MRM is a joke, and that’s all it will ever be.
Transphobia, that is a new one. I did not get the sense that Mike was transphobic at all. I doubt most transsexuals are as self hating as good ol Davy is. Liberals, make one metaphor and they all call you a racist/homophobe/misogynist cant you finally come up with some better ammunition than that. Get over it, the shaming is no longer effective, we can see right through you.
Just wanted to add some meat to what Gillian was talking about:
Under fundamentalist Rabbinical law, a man who is separated from his wife and is no longer living with her, may remarry without any formal proceeding. A woman, however, may not remarry unless she gets a formal, written permission from her prior husband. That’s what a “get” really is — permission given to one’s ex-wife to remarry. In modern Israel, of course, a man may not remarry without formalizing a divorce, but the basic fundamentalist framework is still there: a man may divorce his wife with good reason, bad reason, or no reason at all, whereas a woman may not divorce a man under any circumstances, unless he is willing, without coercion, to sign off on it. Neither cheating, nor abuse, nor severe mental illness give a woman grounds to divorce her husband against his will. There have been a few cases where men were held in contempt of court and jailed for refusal to grant a divorce, but only in exceptional cases. If your husband tries to kill you in the presence of ten male witnesses and provides a videotaped confession then maybe, maybe rabbis will apply pressure on him to grant you a “get”. Short of that, however, you are entirely at his mercy, while he is free to walk away at any time.
Years ago, I spent a day at a rabbinical court in Tel Aviv, with my then-fiance translating for me. Without exception, rabbis would side with the husband. In most contested cases, they would not even permit the wife to testify, saying that her testimony would be “irrelevant”. And under clerical law, it is.
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Also, the thing about the “Tender Years Doctrine” as it was practiced in the 18th century, as one of our MRA visitors pointed out: it wasn’t a form of discrimination against men. Quite the contrary, it was precisely the kind of legal arrangement that MRA’s today are fighting for: the mother would do all the work, and the father would retain control over the child and get full custody as soon as that child no longer required extensive care. After all, when MRA’s scream about “mandatory joint custody”, it’s not the right to do more diaper-changing and mess-cleaning that they are fighting for.
jwells: What makes you say Dave (or anyone else here) is self-hating? Because he doesn’t agree with a philistinic view of women as not being equal to men? Because he doesn’t think men are oppressed? Because he thinks women ought to be treated as equal beings before the law? Because he doesn’t share your hatred of those things?
That’s not self-hate, it’s empathy, and a love of his fellows.
Shit homie, we can see right through y’all too. And all I see is a lot of air from the neck up, and a lot of bile from the neck down
jwells: What makes you say Dave (or anyone else here) is self-hating?
I’m beginning to believe that a lot of MRAs just can’t fathom the idea of not being full of hate for someone. Either you hate yourself, or you hate everyone who is in any way unlike you. You can’t possibly like yourself AND people who aren’t you!
It’s got to be a really sad way to live.
I just don’t have the time or energy for flippant histrionics these days. I pity several of you, yes, but I think most of you have good intentions and are a bit misguided. I’d say my time here had a certain degree of edutainment considering what I absorbed from the more enthusiastic followers here, so what have I got to be mad about? Some of you could benefit from some discipline and hard love, but that’s more an issue of upbringing and not my concern.
And the winner for Best Non-sequitor in a supporting roll goes to…
Man, you can’t even definitively flounce. King of Mealy Mouths, do you has enough Oatmeal? XD
Glad you stopped by FactFinder, you’ve been as ____ as ever.
I guess you didn’t catch that flippant histrionics was referring to the assumption that all antifeminists are demons with human facades. I can see you’re hurt, though, so I’ll give you consent to insult me.
Add “fail at flouncing” to your ever-growing list of non-accomplishments.
You can’t fire me!!! I QUIT!!!
I think I prefer Frippertronics to flippant histrionics.
Add “fail at flouncing” to your ever-growing list of non-accomplishments.
Why?