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Reddit's Post-Pedogeddon Backlash, Part One: r/beatingwomen weighs in on the pedo ban

While Reddit’s reluctant, long-overdue banning of subreddits devoted to sexualized pictures of children drew applause from many Redditors, there has, of course, been a considerable backlash from pedophiles, ephibophiles, and other assorted apologists. ShitRedditSays has already started covering this, and I’ll be doing some posts of my own.

So far the most appalling thing I’ve run across (thanks to ScrappyB for pointing it out in the comments here) comes from the BeatingWomen subreddit — which is, unfortunately, a real thing. Some people, you see, are suggesting that maybe Reddit shouldn’t be hosting a forum devoted to sharing images and videos of women being brutalized, so that Redditors can cackle over their victimization, make rape jokes, and whatever else they do there.

The idea that r/beatingwomen “might be next “ roused one racist, misogynist jailbait enthusiast to post this little manifesto.

He’s not trolling. If you look at his comment history you’ll see he’s completely sincere. (Actually, don’t look at his comment history. It’s horrifying. I’m not going to link to it.)

In case any one is wondering, r/beatingwomen is the subreddit that r/mensrights mod AnnArchist (a guy, despite the name) posted to on several occasions, because he considers r/beatingwomen-style “humor” to be hilarious.

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Ami Angelwings
12 years ago

The MRAs who whine about Shroedinger’s Rapist better be up in arms over this guy right? Since he’s basically saying that SR doesn’t go far enough and that literally EVERY man wants to rape us. Right? I won’t be holding my breath xD

Ami Angelwings
12 years ago

Hey I’m first! People always go “FIRST!” and stuff when they post first right? o_O So… what do I get? o:

Ullere
Ullere
12 years ago

Speaking for the menz I’d like to say I do not dream of holding the women I see down and violating them etc…

I was pretty sure Beating Women was a troll reddit? I haven’t visited it but others posting about it have said it’s a sub-reddit that exists purely to try and get a reaction out of people?

Ami Angelwings
12 years ago

That is a pretty freaking scary comment though. I just love how open he is about it. “ALL MEN ARE RAPISTS AND WE ALL DREAM OF RAPIINNG YOU SO YOU BETTER LET US HAVE WHATEVER SUBREDDITS WE WANT OR WE WILL JUST GO OUT AND RAPE YOU” e_e Isn’t this extremely misandrist?

Or is it only a problem if Swedish people make a play about his words? xD

Common Nonsense
Common Nonsense
12 years ago

I hope so, Ullere.

If it’s not trolling, I don’t want to live on this planet anymore.

Holly Pervocracy
12 years ago

That’s the most misandrist shit I’ve read today.

Hey, MRAs, you want to meet someone who thinks that all men are predators, all women are victims or potential victims, and that men are naturally and inevitably drawn to commit rape and abuse?

Here he is.

I expect you to go after him with great fervor, just like you totally went on the offensive against The Amazing Atheist for attacking a male rape victim, just like you began a campaign against Paul Elam for making jokes about raping a man!

Come on, MRAs, aren’t you ever going to stand up for men?

Ami Angelwings
12 years ago

@Holly IME, most MRAs get around this little logical problem by saying that ultimately feminism is to blame for everything, so you go for the source rather than caring about little things (which they tend to dismiss as rhetoric, hyperbole or joking neways) >_>

Holly Pervocracy
12 years ago

“It’s just a troll” never held much weight with me.

Because if you’re joking about hurting women, but secretly you’re just doing it because you want women to read it and feel hurt…

Six of one, half a dozen of the other, you know?

Ullere
Ullere
12 years ago

Dammit your link in your linked blog page about the R/mr mod takes you to beatingwomen.

Still I see.

‘ATTENTION: This is not MRs. We will remove any stupid whinny bullshit related to MRs. (self.beatingwomen)’

Now while doubtless r/mr has some assholes, maybe even an asshole mod i don’t think MR and BW are in anyway related.

Rutee Katreya
12 years ago

Threats made for the purpose of advantaging men, that play off of social narratives that primarily advantage men as a class, are not misandrist. They’re just fucking nasty.

Every idiot who apologizes for pedophiles should not be permitted contact with anyone but other pedophiles and pedophilia apologists. Fuck the lot of them. Break their computers and exile them from civilized society.

hellkell
hellkell
12 years ago

“Patrick Batmen?” oh, cute, another little American Psycho fanboy who doesn’t realize that book is satire, not a fucking manifesto.

The fact the there is a beating women subreddit is disgusting. Once again, I wonder how these asspimples relate to the women in their lives. Would this guy be OK with some toolshed saying this about his mother or sister?

Ullere
Ullere
12 years ago

‘Because if you’re joking about hurting women, but secretly you’re just doing it because you want women to read it and feel hurt…’

I would hope not, or with the sheer abundance of distasteful jokes I have heard everyone in the world is likely a sociopath. All racist jokes make you a racist, all rape jokes mean you secretly want to rape, all terrorist jokes mean to secretly wish to be a terrorist… etc.

Seems like a extreme belief to have.

Joanna
12 years ago

“The fact the there is a beating women subreddit is disgusting.”

There is also a beating children subreddit.

Holly Pervocracy
12 years ago

Rutee – I don’t really think “misandry” is a thing, at least not in the way “misogyny” is. It’s possible for an individual to hate men; it’s not possible for them to tap into a long-standing and broadly entrenched hatred of men.

But the MRAs sure as hell think “misandry” is a thing, so I like pointing out the hypocrisy every time they ignore it because there isn’t a woman around to attack.

Rutee Katreya
12 years ago

I would hope not, or with the sheer abundance of distasteful jokes I have heard everyone in the world is likely a sociopath. All racist jokes make you a racist,

Um yeah. They do actually. The only way to find that shit funny is to be a racist.

hellkell
hellkell
12 years ago

Ullere, why are you here? To be an apologist for this and tell us “too extreme,” or “it’s just trolling?”

I don’t give a fuck if it is too extreme or someone’s trolling, this shit is foul, and you can take the first exit to Fuckrightoffville if you think otherwise.

Joanna
12 years ago

“The fact remains that any time you walk outside, any time you are seen by men, they objectify you, they hunger for you, they dream of holding you down and violating you, and many of you will get the chance to let them act out those desires before your time is through.”

Really? I always thought I wasn’t slutty enough to be raped.

PosterformerlyknownasElizabeth
PosterformerlyknownasElizabeth
12 years ago

That fictional character is not someone to live up to. He is fake, he does not exist. So how about not trying to live out his life.

magdelyn
12 years ago

Don’t go to /r/beatingwomen. It’s worse than you think

Holly Pervocracy
12 years ago

All racist jokes make you a racist, all rape jokes mean you secretly want to rape, all terrorist jokes mean to secretly wish to be a terrorist… etc.

Um, yeah, racist jokes do make you a racist.

Rape jokes don’t necessarily mean you’re actively planning to rape someone, but they do mean that you consider rape appropriate when someone “has it coming,” as well as that you’re willing to humiliate and potentially trigger rape survivors.

Generally terrorist jokes also mean you’re a racist.

hellkell
hellkell
12 years ago

Yeah, some shit’s just not funny, and if you can’t rock a joke without kicking a down group, the problem isn’t with the person hearing the joke and not finding it funny.

Joanna
12 years ago

What gets my goat is the dudes that get butt hurt over not having a space to be creepy pedophile, woman-beating assholes. Get therapy you freaks!

Spearhafoc
12 years ago

Jesus. There are no words.

Ullere
Ullere
12 years ago

Or racist jokes mean you find stereotypes funny. Jokes about clowns mean you secretly wish to be a clown, jokes about misogyny
mean you secretly…

@Johana ‘There is also a beating children subreddit.’ Yeah thats a new subreddit created because of the very thread we are discussing here.

@hellkell Yeah this shit is foul. But for all the reasons I’m here stating the obvious is not one of them. It is also possibly a troll reddit attempting simply to get people good and pissed off, but then you don’t give a fuck.

Holly Pervocracy
12 years ago

There’s also an “intent is not magic” issue here.

If you make a racist joke even though you’re totally not a racist (however that works…), but a member of the race you’re joking about hears it and is hurt, then your joke did cause harm. Or if someone a little more racist than you heard your joke and it gave them the “everyone here is on my side!” confidence to go out and attack someone, again, regardless of whether you meant to be a racist or not, you caused harm.

If your fist hits my face, whether you meant to punch me, whether you identify as a puncher, does not make one bit of difference in how big a bruise it leaves.

And if you’re a decent person who actually isn’t a puncher, you hear this and don’t swing your fists around next time.

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