Irony alert! The level of irony in this post is so extreme it might actually harm your computer.
So a couple of days ago, MGTOWer extraordinaire MarkyMark, continuing on with his post-retirement posting binge, shared with us an email he got from a fella who had skipped the country in order to avoid paying child support for his three kids.
I’m a deadbeat dad!!! (light your torches – gasoline in 89, 91, and 95 octane is available in your choice of containers). Yep, I’ve got three kids and I’m behind on my child kidnapping payments by probably 10 grand at present and considerably more behind on alimony and her lawyer fees. I skipped the country rather than be jailed for all of the above compounding my crimes. A runaway slave is the worst kind of slave – one that absolutely refuses to serve his massa.
Yep, that’s right. He compared the legal requirement that he provide financial assistance to his own children to … slavery.
In the rest of his letter, he encouraged other “slaves” to follow in his path.
My favorite bit is the quote I used as the headline:
Women from around the world look better than anything back in the states, cost less unless you’re totally stupid, and are much more easily disposed of.
Ooh. That last bit is rather unfortunately worded – unless he really is suggesting that outside the US it is easier to get rid of the bodies of murdered girlfriends and wives.
So anyway, MarkyMark’s post got linked to on the Men’s Rights subreddit. And this little discussion ensued. You may wish to activate your irony shields now.
Take note of the upvotes and downvotes for these three comments.
I can’t read all that shit, but just from the above, Nehru Vegan is criminally dull.
I just called Marky Mark a sociopath based on the OP alone. I really don’t give a fuck if wossface thinks it’s “proven” or not.
generally though “insane” is considered an ableist term and/or letting people off the hook, anyway. Let’s just say they’re vile human beings and leave it at that.
“I will leave you to ponder which MRAs are “criminally insane” and whether you truly agree with that statement. If you do, I will be interested in hearing the specifics.”
Indeed, we will ponder this for many hours and…wait, did the troll say something? Oh well, never mind. Back to talking about cats.
Poor kitty, I hope it will be OK.
No, but we asked for examples of MRAs who were non-violent and reasonable–both at the same time. You then responded with the names of MRAs who had not, to your knowledge, personally committed acts of violence. While that may be true, it is an utterly trivial point, and in no way satisfies the conditions laid forth.
“It could be worse” fallacy in full swing here, I see.
Dude, the guy wants to KILL AND MUTILATE PEOPLE.
What the fuck is wrong with you?
He’s gone? Hurra! I don’t mind the usual stupid misoginy “women can’t play jockey and when they do it’s misandry” but this terrible quoting makes me want to bang my head on the table. It makes the reader read 3 times the same conversartion, which is boring and highly annoying.
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I hope it’s okay if I say that I do think that if we make an allegation that MRAs are “criminally insane” it be backed up : I also think it’s really problematic to start dismissing and labeling MRAs as being “insane” simply b/c we disagree with them, especially “criminally insane” which is a term with specific implications 🙁
We can talk about how irrational they are, how paranoid they are, how hateful they are without saying they’re “criminally insane” can’t we? Especially since, as Nephrite proves, it gives them something to latch onto and pound on us about :
@Nephrite Yeqon:
menarebetterthanwomen.com is a satire site
Also, what’s wrong with the way I talk? -_O
I use italics when I quote somebody 😀
And as Belladame222 said, it’s an ablist term :
I think that “non-violent” would generally include not encouraging violence… e_e Also, violence can take many forms. Emotional violence is also violence. I would say that encouraging jury nullification of rape trials also encourages violence because you are deliberately excusing violent acts and wanting to create an environment where violent acts are de facto legal.
It’s also usually MRAs that have problems with the classism issue -_- They compare male coal miners to rich women being pampered at home, ignoring that if you lived in a poor coal mining community, the women worked very hard themselves and could hardly sit at home watching tv and eating bon bons -_- Also there are female coal miners as well.
They do this a lot, where they claim we’re comparing poor women to rich men (which isn’t true, for example, the “men are paid more than women” thing is for the same work in the same field, it is not an average that includes Bill Gates, Warren Buffett, etc) but in fact it’s them who seems to like comparing themselves to Lauren Conrad and believing every woman is having an MTV life. xD
yes, you get the impression they watched that movie with Goldie Hawn, “Overboard” one too many times at an impressionable age.
*hugs Captain Bathrobe randomly*
Did I kill the thread? 🙁
I always get on at the wrong times :
hey you know women weren’t oppressed right? they were only molested by doctors because they had that darn female hysteria! http://19thcentury.wordpress.com/2007/12/05/female-hysteria/
I wonder how MRAs would feel if it was actually the men of the past who got their prostates massaged to relieve them of hysteria. No lets make this even more sexist and stereotypical. Prostate massages for every dude who was deemed a violent oaf!
If it were the other way around they’d be crying oppression into the year 3000.
*hugs Ami right back*
I know. Vile, horrible person. And yeah, technically at least this is “criminal.”
Quackers: to be fair, men or at least boys got pretty shafted by Victorian sexual mores too. read up on some of the “treatment” for masturbation sometime.
@Quackers
http://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/mktfu/national_institute_for_mens_health_proposed/c31w38h
Here’s a thread where somebody tries to bring that up and the MRAs go into total denial mode. e_e
(I posted this in the forum a while ago, that’s why I have it handy and what you said reminded me of it xD)
this has nothing to do with sexual mores, it has to do with being violated by a stranger for a condition that doesn’t even exist.
Women got shafted a lot regarding sexuality too…chastity belts? What about the body disfiguration that resulted from wearing corsets?
I’m just sick and tired of MRA assholes pretending women had it so good back then. If they could just put themselves in that position especially…
Yeah, “criminally insane” is a specific legal designation. I seriously doubt it applies to most MRAs, however reprehensible the things they say on line may be. Besides, to designate someone as criminally insane means that person has diminished responsibility for their actions–something I’m definitely not willing to grant MRAs.
Inaccurately, as usual. Have you read the thread where this supposedly occurred?
Have you?
Yes. And I even wrote some of it.
@Ami
Yep, total denial of facts and history just to keep their delusions justified. Typical of MRAs.
Thanks for that link too, now I can add “most lobotomies were done on women” onto my list of ways women were not oppressed and always worshipped on a pedestal. http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/096470490897692
This is why I prefer the term “batshit” – it’s descriptive, but vague, and clearly not meant as a legal or diagnostic term.
I really want to go to sleep. I really do. Work will not be fun tomorrow. I need to avoid these threads before bed–of course, when else would I have time?