Irony alert! The level of irony in this post is so extreme it might actually harm your computer.
So a couple of days ago, MGTOWer extraordinaire MarkyMark, continuing on with his post-retirement posting binge, shared with us an email he got from a fella who had skipped the country in order to avoid paying child support for his three kids.
I’m a deadbeat dad!!! (light your torches – gasoline in 89, 91, and 95 octane is available in your choice of containers). Yep, I’ve got three kids and I’m behind on my child kidnapping payments by probably 10 grand at present and considerably more behind on alimony and her lawyer fees. I skipped the country rather than be jailed for all of the above compounding my crimes. A runaway slave is the worst kind of slave – one that absolutely refuses to serve his massa.
Yep, that’s right. He compared the legal requirement that he provide financial assistance to his own children to … slavery.
In the rest of his letter, he encouraged other “slaves” to follow in his path.
My favorite bit is the quote I used as the headline:
Women from around the world look better than anything back in the states, cost less unless you’re totally stupid, and are much more easily disposed of.
Ooh. That last bit is rather unfortunately worded – unless he really is suggesting that outside the US it is easier to get rid of the bodies of murdered girlfriends and wives.
So anyway, MarkyMark’s post got linked to on the Men’s Rights subreddit. And this little discussion ensued. You may wish to activate your irony shields now.
Take note of the upvotes and downvotes for these three comments.
You have not proven your case at all.
You cannot prove your case.
What is my case?
Your case is that all MRAs online are “stupid” “criminally insane” or “evil”.
You refuse to prove it.
Inaccurately, as usual. Have you read the thread where this supposedly occurred?
Have you?
You said “criminally insane”.
This is what you said. Which MRAs are criminally insane?
You realise that if he’s not it doesn’t disprove feminism or anything, right? Straight from the feminist: I’m not a lawyer, but he is a massive wankstain.
Well, Paul Elam encouraged… oh right, you said something so it must be true. Didn’t we mention Anders Breivik earlier?
Paul Elam advocates violence, says it gives him, and I quote a “boner” to “fuck feminists up”.
I said specifically that the MRM advocates violence and they do on their own websites.
Show me one MRA working for anything positive in the real world.
You cannot.
You realise that if he’s not it doesn’t disprove feminism or anything, right?
I do realize that. This is not about disproving feminism.
Bostonian stated that some MRAs are criminally insane. This is about his statements.
Why are you not holding your own members to the same standards you hold MRAs?
After all, if I made a statement that “all online feminists are either stupid, evil, or criminally insane” you would hold me to it. Correct? You would intuit this statement and ask me for specifics. Correct?
I said specifically that the MRM advocates violence and they do on their own websites.
No. You said:
I have yet to see a self identified MRA who is nonviolent and reasonable.
That is EXACTLY what you just said.
“nonviolent”.
Prove to me that those above have been violent.
Ah yes. When Elam talked about “fucking their shit up” it was really a call for non-violence. Only a feminist bigot would think otherwise.
Why are you acting as if I made the definitive statement?
I have said nothing about either MRAs nor feminists. If I said that MRAs are reasonable, please quote me?
You have said that some MRAs are “criminally insane”.
Now you are trying to turn this on me.
Ah yes. When Elam talked about “fucking their shit up” it was really a call for non-violence.
You have evidence that he assaulted people. Why have you not turned this evidence into the authorities?
Advocating violence is non-violent and reasonable?
Do you want me to list MRAs who are “non-violent” or who “preach non-violence”?
Advocating violence is non-violent and reasonable?
I was merely responding to being non-violent.
What I consider reasonable, you may not. What you consider reasonable, I may not.
However, whether somebody has committed acts of violence is not subjective. Paul Elam has never assaulted another human being.
Advocating violence isn’t non-violent, Asshat. The mob boss who orders some guy cleaned up is as violent as the thugs doing it.
No, I have evidence that he advocated violence. By your definition, Charles Manson is non-violent.
I usually do not take my leave, but it is 2 am where I am and I have work in the morning.
All of the self avowed MRAs advocate violence as a matter of course.
Also, you still do not read.
Don’t strain yourself moving the goalposts, sparky.
What goalposts have I moved? What was my original stance and what has changed?
Bostonian is the one who claimed that some MRAs are “criminally insane.” I asked him which ones, he listed one that was in a locked forum that nobody has heard of. I asked him for more. He then claimed I asserted that MRAs are “reasonable” and asked me to prove it.
If I made this assertion I would like somebody to quote me back where I made it.
Bostonian appears to be the one moving the goalposts, not I.
I’m still waiting for proof regarding your claims about chivalry and women drivers. Or your could just admit that you pulled that one out of your ass. It’s all good.
I’m still waiting for proof regarding your claims about chivalry and women drivers. Or your could just admit that you pulled that one out of your ass. It’s all good.
I admit I have none.
I’m now waiting for the proof that many MRAs are “criminally insane”.
I’m going to throw up. He’s abandoning his responsibility to his kids and he’s proud of it. What a fucking sociopath.
Criminally insane MRAs? How about all of them that are willing to let real rapists go free in their “Jury Nullification” scheme?
Since the one making the claim has fled, I too will take my leave of you.
I will leave you to ponder which MRAs are “criminally insane” and whether you truly agree with that statement. If you do, I will be interested in hearing the specifics.