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"Women from around the world look better than anything back in the states, cost less unless you're totally stupid, and are much more easily disposed of."

Irony alert! The level of irony in this post is so extreme it might actually harm your computer.

So a couple of days ago, MGTOWer extraordinaire MarkyMark, continuing on with his post-retirement posting binge, shared with us an email he got from a fella who had skipped the country in order to avoid paying child support for his three kids.

I’m a deadbeat dad!!! (light your torches – gasoline in 89, 91, and 95 octane is available in your choice of containers). Yep, I’ve got three kids and I’m behind on my child kidnapping payments by probably 10 grand at present and considerably more behind on alimony and her lawyer fees. I skipped the country rather than be jailed for all of the above compounding my crimes. A runaway slave is the worst kind of slave – one that absolutely refuses to serve his massa.

Yep, that’s right. He compared the legal requirement that he provide financial assistance to his own children to … slavery.

In the rest of his letter, he encouraged other “slaves” to follow in his path.

My favorite bit is the quote I used as the headline:

Women from around the world look better than anything back in the states, cost less unless you’re totally stupid, and are much more easily disposed of.

Ooh. That last bit is rather unfortunately worded – unless he really is suggesting that outside the US it is easier to get rid of the bodies of murdered girlfriends and wives.

So anyway, MarkyMark’s post got linked to on the Men’s Rights subreddit. And this little discussion ensued. You may wish to activate your irony shields now.

Take note of the upvotes and downvotes for these three comments.

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Bostonian
12 years ago

She can use quotation marks, unlike you.

Also, she can read, unlike you.

Quackers
Quackers
12 years ago

@Nephy

You really think the ideas of masculinity and femininity that MRAs promote are new and original? Lol…try again. They’ve been around since the dawn of time and why feminism exists in the first place.

lowquacks
lowquacks
12 years ago

Ami doesn’t use academic English, but does aim for understandability. I’m not annoyed because I’m a grammar nerd or a spelling nerd or an English nerd; I’m annoyed because you are posting in a way that is lazy and harder to read quickly.

Nephrite Yeqon
Nephrite Yeqon
12 years ago

So focus on my not quoting instead of telling me which specific MRA you believe is “criminally insane”. Good job. If I said that certain feminists were criminally insane, you’d want to know which ones. If you say that all the MRAs you’ve met are either “criminally insane” “stupid” or “evil”, then you must also know which ones are which, and you must have seen at least one that is criminally insane. Pray tell, who it it? (Or, who are they?)

lowquacks
lowquacks
12 years ago

Also Ami’s not a douchebag like you and that was the least creative name-butchering so far.

Nephrite Yeqon
Nephrite Yeqon
12 years ago

You really think the ideas of masculinity and femininity that MRAs promote are new and original? Lol…try again. They’ve been around since the dawn of time and why feminism exists in the first place.

Since you all love this phrase so much:

“Citation please”

Nephrite Yeqon
Nephrite Yeqon
12 years ago

@lowq

I’m lazy remember? Please get your insults straight.

lowquacks
lowquacks
12 years ago

@Asshat

Where exactly has anyone here called any MRA “criminally insane”? That sounds kinda ableist for Man Boobz. Mr Set-himself-on-fire and Mr. Scandinavian-shooty-man are probably close, though. IANAL.

lowquacks
lowquacks
12 years ago

@Asshat

“Lazy” and “douchebag” are by no means incompatible.

Quackers
Quackers
12 years ago

@Nephy

a couple weeks ago an MRA on AVfM lamented the discontinuation of a torture device used on women called the Scold’s Bridle…clearly he was yearning for a time where women knew their place. Go back a few entries here and you’ll find the text and links to the source.

Noadi
12 years ago

Most MRAs believe there was never a golden era where women “knew their place”, that men have been equally or even more oppressed than women throughout history.

Okay, that’s just downright delusional. I was a history major in college, thoughout much of European and American history women didn’t have the right to own property, couldn’t vote or hold public office, were the most frequent target of witch hunts, were rarely given a full education even in the upper classes. Married women had even fewer rights than single women because they couldn’t work outside the home without their husband’s permission, their husbands had the right to beat them, and in many cases if a woman was widowed her husband’s family had the right to take away their children. The type of oppression men suffered historically wasn’t because they were men, it was because of their social class, religion, or race, all things which also applied to women.

Nephrite Yeqon
Nephrite Yeqon
12 years ago

So, who is criminally insane?

Paul Elam? Pierce Harlan? W.F. Price?

I’m waiting.

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
12 years ago

Ah, now I understand.

The fundamental mistake you’re making, Nephy dear, is assuming that we care enough about your opinion to answer your questions. It bugs you not knowing who specifically lowquacks was referring to? (Shrugs) Oh well, such is life.

Noadi
12 years ago

Mr Set-himself-on-fire and Mr. Scandinavian-shooty-man are probably close, though. IANAL.

Mr. Scandinavian-shooty-man was declared criminally insane however the judge has ordered a second evaluation which he isn’t cooperating with.

Moewicus
Moewicus
12 years ago

It’s “citation needed.” As in:

Nephrite Wubsy Bunny: NO WAi WOMEN CANT PLAY HOCKEY QUIT BELIEVING LIES citation needed!

[Feminists provide citations]

it offend our feminist sensibilities to call it otherwise.

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
12 years ago

In the case of Mr Scandinavian shooty-man, is the prosecution trying to have him judged sane in order that he be eligible for a longer sentence?

Bostonian
12 years ago

I think this website lists plenty. The post above details a man who talks about disposing of women and children.

The sad part is that he is a very mild example of what MRAs post.

The ones lionizing Thomas Ball are many.

Quote from Nice Guy forum:

“NiceGuy richbansha tried his best to live up to these high expectations with a recent rant titled “Why not hate?” Why bother to pretend that we don’t hate women, rich asks his fellow NiceGuys, when this won’t actually do us any good? As for him, he admits his hatred up front.

Do I “hate women”? You bet your ass! …

[T]he most common reason why one of us will deny the possibility that we hate them is not not look bad. Is there any doubt that they don’t hate YOU or that those listening in wouldn’t just as soon see you violated? … No matter what you do, you can still expect the most inconscionable treatment at the hands of AW [American Women]. If the response to both kindness and cruelty are identical, what is the reason for such a lopsided favoritism for appeasement?

When saying that you want to rape and cut up a woman with a band saw is met with the exact same reaction as saying you want to want to buy them a drink, what … is the incentive to not be hateful and violent? We have seen for ourselves that refraining only makes you are more likely target for hatred and violence. … So when a stinking cavern gets out of hand why not pulp her? You know you want to. Does anyone really think that stopping yourself or saying you would stop yourself will make it any easier on you?”

Just one example of the criminally insane.

Nephrite Yeqon
Nephrite Yeqon
12 years ago

@Naodi

http://angryharry.com/eswerewomenoppressedinthewest.htm

http://mclaren83.hubpages.com/hub/Women-Were-Opressed-for-Thousands-of-Years

http://www.menarebetterthanwomen.com/myth-of-female-oppression/

http://www.avoiceformen.com/feminism/feminist-lies-feminism/women-were-not-oppressed-by-not-having-the-vote/

http://counterfem.blogspot.com/2011/10/women-couldnt-vote-that-was-oppression.html

http://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/d1mjj/thoughts_after_watching_a_bbc_historical_film/

Read those. Men had no more rights than women did. Feminists continuously compare the lack of “rights” that women had in comparison to “men” when they neglect to mention that almost every man didn’t have that right either. You can compare yourself to Bill Gates as proof that women are oppressed too, but almost no men make that amount either. That’s not oppression, that’s class oppression.

Nephrite Yeqon
Nephrite Yeqon
12 years ago

I continue to be in moderation. I suppose the truth must be squelched. I thought you feminists love free speech?

Nephrite Yeqon
Nephrite Yeqon
12 years ago

http://www.avoiceformen.com/feminism/feminist-lies-feminism/women-were-not-oppressed-by-not-having-the-vote/

http://counterfem.blogspot.com/2011/10/women-couldnt-vote-that-was-oppression.html

http://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/d1mjj/thoughts_after_watching_a_bbc_historical_film/

Read those. Men had no more rights than women did. Feminists continuously compare the lack of “rights” that women had in comparison to “men” when they neglect to mention that almost every man didn’t have that right either. You can compare yourself to Bill Gates as proof that women are oppressed too, but almost no men make that amount either. That’s not oppression, that’s class oppression.

Bostonian
12 years ago

I used the words criminally insane.

I stand by them, because they accurately describe someone who wants to “pulp” a human being, shoot multiple people, set up rape camps, and remove voice boxes from little girls.

All things I have read both here, and on MRA blogs.

Nephrite Yeqon
Nephrite Yeqon
12 years ago

So richbansha is criminally insane. Correct?

lowquacks
lowquacks
12 years ago

@Bostonian

Whoa. Who was that?

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