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"Women from around the world look better than anything back in the states, cost less unless you're totally stupid, and are much more easily disposed of."

Irony alert! The level of irony in this post is so extreme it might actually harm your computer.

So a couple of days ago, MGTOWer extraordinaire MarkyMark, continuing on with his post-retirement posting binge, shared with us an email he got from a fella who had skipped the country in order to avoid paying child support for his three kids.

I’m a deadbeat dad!!! (light your torches – gasoline in 89, 91, and 95 octane is available in your choice of containers). Yep, I’ve got three kids and I’m behind on my child kidnapping payments by probably 10 grand at present and considerably more behind on alimony and her lawyer fees. I skipped the country rather than be jailed for all of the above compounding my crimes. A runaway slave is the worst kind of slave – one that absolutely refuses to serve his massa.

Yep, that’s right. He compared the legal requirement that he provide financial assistance to his own children to … slavery.

In the rest of his letter, he encouraged other “slaves” to follow in his path.

My favorite bit is the quote I used as the headline:

Women from around the world look better than anything back in the states, cost less unless you’re totally stupid, and are much more easily disposed of.

Ooh. That last bit is rather unfortunately worded – unless he really is suggesting that outside the US it is easier to get rid of the bodies of murdered girlfriends and wives.

So anyway, MarkyMark’s post got linked to on the Men’s Rights subreddit. And this little discussion ensued. You may wish to activate your irony shields now.

Take note of the upvotes and downvotes for these three comments.

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BoggiDWurms
12 years ago

The thing is, the things that are quoted here, on this website, are from the evil, the stupid, and the criminally insane elements of the MRM (these are not mutually exclusive by the way).

So who is who? C’mon, if you’re going to make accusations, you better back it up. Who is criminally insane? Who’s evil?

The “evil, stupid, and criminally insane elements” of the MRM are mainstream MRA opinion. Practically every MRA website (The Spearhead, A Voice For Men, Chateau Heartiste) has repulsive bigotry and misinformation as the norm.

You MRAs love to call feminism an evil, man-hating organization. Go look at feminist websites (Jezebel, Feministing, Echidne’s blogs). I doubt you would find a single person anywhere whose opinions are nearly as revolting as a typical MRA’s.

Now please go away, troll.

katz
12 years ago

Is evil, sexist, or criminally insane like a feminist version of Shoot, Screw, or Marry?

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
12 years ago

@ lowquacks

Hey…I’m not evil, just old and HTML-impaired.

lowquacks
lowquacks
12 years ago

@CassandraSays

I’ve never noticed you doing that, only Asshat. Sorry about that.

lowquacks
lowquacks
12 years ago

Unless you mean that you don’t quote at all, just reply. That’s fine.

What Asshat does is copy-paste the post and then reply without differentiating the two parts of zir comment.

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
12 years ago

Quotation marks I can handle, it’s the blockquotes that elude me.

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
12 years ago

Asshat is apparently using the same MRA guide to grammar that gave us the two dot ellipsis.

Bostonian
12 years ago

From the article:

“I punched her square in the jaw, knocking her on her ass and standing over her screaming to never, ever touch me again. She never lay a finger on me after that, but she never stopped hating me.”

By the way, that was his mother he did that to.
Now, she was abusive and evil too, but that does not excuse what he did.

I stand by my statements earlier. Do you read what you link?

Bostonian
12 years ago

Do not bother replying, I know you do not really read anything for comprehension.

Nephrite Yeqon
Nephrite Yeqon
12 years ago

Nephrite I’ve seen and been on the receiving end of the masculinity and ideology of femininity the MRAs promote. From childhood until nearly an adult. So yes, the thinking is very problematic.

How old are you? We haven’t been in existence that long, and certainly we’ve never had the influence on society that feminism has. We’ve barely made a peep in the MSM. Are you 5?

Nephrite Yeqon
Nephrite Yeqon
12 years ago

Now, she was abusive and evil too, but that does not excuse what he did.

What should he have done?

Nephrite Yeqon
Nephrite Yeqon
12 years ago

What Asshat does is copy-paste the post and then reply without differentiating the two parts of zir comment.

And yet you know which parts are mine and which parts are the quote. Amazing.

Nephrite Yeqon
Nephrite Yeqon
12 years ago

Asshat is apparently using the same MRA guide to grammar that gave us the two dot ellipsis.

Does that offend your feminist sensibilities?

Bostonian
12 years ago

“Is evil, sexist, or criminally insane like a feminist version of Shoot, Screw, or Marry?”

No, MRAs are frequently all three, if we take them at their word. Seriously, I would not have such a poor opinion of them if I had not take time to read the “reasonable” ones recommended by some MRAs who came here to defend their vile spew. The stuff David posts? Is not even the worst they say.

Nephrite Yeqon
Nephrite Yeqon
12 years ago

I’m still waiting to hear which specific MRAs you consider to be “criminally insane”,

Nephrite Yeqon
Nephrite Yeqon
12 years ago

No, MRAs are frequently all three, if we take them at their word.

Which ones?

Name me one.

Noadi
12 years ago

Nephrite: Have you heard of this time called the 1950s? A lot of MRAs seem to think it was this golden era where women knew their place. The movement may be knew but the attitudes and ideals are very, very old.

Nephrite Yeqon
Nephrite Yeqon
12 years ago

Nephrite: Have you heard of this time called the 1950s? A lot of MRAs seem to think it was this golden era where women knew their place. The movement may be knew but the attitudes and ideals are very, very old.

Most MRAs believe there was never a golden era where women “knew their place”, that men have been equally or even more oppressed than women throughout history. If you have proof otherwise, I’d love to see it.

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
12 years ago

Every time someone tries to sell Elam as “reasonable” it makes me snicker a bit. Oh, you mean the dude who says that fantasizing about doing nasty things to feminists gives him an erection?

Nothing beats our friend Alek trying to sell Fidelbogen as reasonable though.

Noadi
12 years ago

Asshat is apparently using the same MRA guide to grammar that gave us the two dot ellipsis.

Does that offend your feminist sensibilities?

No, it’s offensive to the English language. Last I checked grammar wasn’t a feminist plot.

lowquacks
lowquacks
12 years ago

Asshat is apparently using the same MRA guide to grammar that gave us the two dot ellipsis.

Does that offend your feminist sensibilities?

No, it offends my “people should at least try to be understandable” sensibilities.

eye cloud tpte lkie tihs n yuo’d plbabory b albe 2 unatsrednd btut taht dnoesn’t maen itts a gud ieda

lowquacks
lowquacks
12 years ago

˙sıɥʇ ǝʞıן sʇuǝɯɯoɔ ʎɯ ןןɐ ǝdʎʇ pןnoɥs ı suɐǝɯ ʇɐɥʇ ˙ʇı puɐʇsɹǝpun ןןıʇs uɐɔ noʎ puɐ ‘uʍop-ǝpısdn sı ʇxǝʇ sıɥʇ

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
12 years ago

Don’t be silly. Of course grammar is a feminist plot. Behold the greatest ever work of feminist treachery.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eats,_Shoots_%26_Leaves

Nephrite Yeqon
Nephrite Yeqon
12 years ago

@lowq

And yet you haven’t run Amy Angelwing out with torches and pitchforks. Double standard much?

lowquacks
lowquacks
12 years ago

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