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Devastating new "fly" slogan gives MRAs the edge in the war of ideas

Well, my fellow feminists, we might as well pack it in. For the forces arrayed against us have a devastating, nay brutal, new slogan.

The Counter-Feminist Agent of Change (CFAC) who calls himself Fidelbogen explained in a recent post how this “wicked new slogan” came to him. Also, what the slogan is:

This occurred to me in a flash of inspiration today. I grabbed the first scrap of paper I could find and jotted it down:

Feminism spreads lies like a fly spreads germs.

You like it? I thought you would.

So . . . spread it around, and make it part of the “buzz”!

Get it? Buzz. Like, “buzz” means “what people are excitedly talking about.” But it is also the sound that a fly makes.

See, Fidelbogen is working with TWO DIFFERENT MEANINGS at once. It’s like juggling two things at once, only with your brain. No wonder some MRAs regard his as the finest mind in the Men’s Rights movement today.

Several days after The Bogen (that’s what I like to call him) came up with this masterful slogan, one artistically minded MRA took it to a whole nother level – by using the slogan in the graphic above.

As The Bogen explained in his second post about his new slogan:

Memes can take many forms, and what you see here is among the most elemental and effective of those forms.

I am posting this graphic image for anybody on the planet who wants to fly away with it and spread it around.

First with the “buzz” thing, and now “fly away with it.” LIKE FLIES DO! The man is a genius.

Hell man, you could even print it on T-shirts and coffee mugs. Certainly you can post it on your website. Best of all, you can print it on little squares of paper and leave these in all manner of places where all manner of people will happen upon them.

Oh shit. T-shirts? Mugs? Motherfucking SQUARES OF PAPER?! He’s going CROSS-PLATFORM!

This is the sort of thing that will land in people’s brains, and buzz around there, and never leave!

I explained the buzz thing already, didn’t I?

It will find its way into the general buzz of conversation, too!

Just in case you’ve forgotten. Buzz = what people are talking about. ALSO THE SOUND FLIES MAKE.

I still cannot get over how much of a genius move that whole “buzz” thing is. I don’t know how he does it.

I kindly thank St. Estephe, the blog keeper who created this. I am honored to see my words so skillfully combined with pictures, and made ten times more effective by that method.

It’s true. It takes a tremendous amount of skill to find a picture of a fly, and then to put words next to it.

How can we possibly compete with this?

I tried to come up with some slogans of my own. But the best I could do was this:

I hope you guys have some better ideas.

Try QuickMeme if you want to make a little graphic. I’ll post any especially good ones here!

EDITED TO ADD: Some more graphics that are Fidelbogenesque in their brilliance. One from Scar, one from me.

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Lauralot
Lauralot
12 years ago

Thanks, Scar.

ozymandias42
12 years ago

*hugs Ami*

I… actually do believe in the disposable male concept as a useful tool of analysis? But I believe that it is best understood as “the male gender role of strength and toughness tends to lead to marginalized men, including men of color, poor men, and young men, to be encouraged to sacrifice their bodies to benefit the privileged (for instance, in war, sports, or dangerous jobs), in a way that marginalized women tend not to. I say ‘tend’ because there are quite a lot of marginalized women who end up sacrificing themselves to benefit the privileged classes– Ain’t I A Woman?, after all.”

Nephrite Yeqon
Nephrite Yeqon
12 years ago

http://www.avoiceformen.com/feminism/the-battle-for-feminisms-soul/

This is a good article that explains what feminism is and isn’t.

Joanna
12 years ago

Are my posts invisible or something? =(

Lauralot
Lauralot
12 years ago

Not to me, Joanna. That kitten was adorable.

ozymandias42
12 years ago

I was crazy long before my feminist awakening, dude. I wanted to kill myself for the first time when I was seven. Feminism has actually made me loads saner. 🙂

Holly Pervocracy
12 years ago

okay, for serious, good night everyone! 🙂

(On my bookshelf: Sex at Dawn, Opening Up, The Ethical Slut, and The Cosmo Guide To Red-Hot Sex. The funny thing is, these are all basically work reading for me. When I’m reading just for fun I more often read nonfiction popular science books. Stuff like Dead Men Do Tell Tales or any of Mary Roach’s books.)

Sharculese
12 years ago

I’ve already let the relevant parties know where I stand on the issue.

so… i dont get what this means?

are you with us on how totally lame and lazy this shit is? if so, why not? will you at least concede that the graphic was made in mspaint and at most took ten minutes?

ozymandias42
12 years ago

Why would I listen to A Voice For Men telling me what feminism stands for? If I want to know what Christianity stands for, I ask Christians; if I want to know what the Republican party stands for, I ask Republicans; if I want to know what Marxism stands for, I read Marx. I don’t go ask the enemies about it; the enemies will probably lie.

And, yes, to find out what the MRM stands for I went to read The Spearhead, A Voice for Men, and Roissy. Roissy’s the most entertaining of the lot to me.

KathleenB
KathleenB
12 years ago

Nephrite: Shall i tell you the story of watching Kris Draper get his face mangled by Lemieux? Okay, i wasn’t there, I was at college in Missouri, but yeah, I’ve been a Red Wings fan all my life. Shall I regale you with the joy of being a Wings fan in Denver? Good times, man. Good times.

hellkell
hellkell
12 years ago

Shit, if Paul Elam told me the sky was blue, I’d get a second opinion.

Scar
Scar
12 years ago

So do you hate women, Nephy?

Joanna
12 years ago

Nephrite, your silence would indicate what I would suspect of male rape survivors: that they don’t report rape.

Ami Angelwings
12 years ago

@Ozy but I think whats missing a lot of the times, is that a lot of that isn’t because we think men are disposable as much as we think women would be even WORSE at being disposable. We believe that women are worse athletes, would be injured even faster, would be killed faster on the battlefield (or have a lower tolerance of pain, break down from the stress faster, therefore be a bigger drain on resources, and on resources to train them) etc etc… It’s not just “we hate men, so there you go”… nor is it ‘we love women, so you’re protected”… it’s b/c we look down on a lot of what women CAN do… that’s why I think just turning these things into “male disposability” ends up obscuring a lot of what’s going on :

I’ve heard the same argument about hockey by MRAs, it ignores that women WANT to play hockey, they WANT to check but the IOC (who are men) don’t LET them check and are the ones who ban it in international competition. -_-

Sharculese
12 years ago

http://www.avoiceformen.com/feminism/the-battle-for-feminisms-soul/

This is a good article that explains what feminism is and isn’t.

j’accuse! fidelbogen sockpuppet! j’accuse!

Ami Angelwings
12 years ago

Also all of those things are lauded in our society too. There’s a huge problem in terms of ignoring people who don’t make it, but it’s something that’s seen as laudable, impressive, a demonstration of courage, skill, etc… and it’s not just about trying to trick men into sacrificing themselves. (I’m not saying you don’t know this or don’t get it, I’m re-iterating for our friend up there)

ozymandias42
12 years ago

Ami: Yep. It’s a classic sexism-sucks-for-everyone-type situation. “Men are strong and tough so we shouldn’t care if they hurt!” “Women are weak so they can’t get in situations in which they get hurt!”

KathleenB
KathleenB
12 years ago

Hells, I’ll even admit to being… /me looks around… A Lions fan. In public!

Ami Angelwings
12 years ago

KathleenB | February 5, 2012 at 8:23 pm

Nephrite: Shall i tell you the story of watching Kris Draper get his face mangled by Lemieux? Okay, i wasn’t there, I was at college in Missouri, but yeah, I’ve been a Red Wings fan all my life. Shall I regale you with the joy of being a Wings fan in Denver? Good times, man. Good times.

I was an Avs fan back then even though we were the aggressors, I still hated you guys with a passion XDD I loved how intense that rivalry was. It’s one of the few times I was okay witih fighting b/c this wasn’t staged fake “rawr rawr I have to do it to prove I’m tough!” fighting, this was real hatred and anger.

Ami Angelwings
12 years ago

Ami: Yep. It’s a classic sexism-sucks-for-everyone-type situation. “Men are strong and tough so we shouldn’t care if they hurt!” “Women are weak so they can’t get in situations in which they get hurt!”

To be fair, we do care if they get hurt. We might not care ENOUGH, and there is often a culture where they are encouraged not to report it, but it’s hardly what a lot of MRAs make it out to be.

Pecunium
12 years ago

Nephrite: But sure, let’s just all lie down and ignore that stopping the source of what’s hurting men WILL HELP MEN.

And women hurt men by breathing? By having the franchise? By being paid the same as men? By not being raped? By being protected from abuse the same as men?

Those are things you think of as being harmful to men?

And you wonder why you aren’t taken seriously?

It’s not, btw, that we hate analogies, it’s that analogies are hard. They have to be relevant to the thing being analgised. Are you seriously trying to say that women are working to kill off all men (Nazis and Jews)?

Men aren’t being oppressed by women.

The draft? The Draft that NOW is opposed to? The draft that feminists have tried to equalise the registration for?

The draft that hasn’t actually existed for 40 years (cancelled in 1972)?

That’s your example of oppression? Something that hasn’t happened in 40 years? Not one US male has been at risk of dying from the draft since 1976 (assuming someone was drafted for for four years in 1972).

How do you define, “untouched power”? The ERA failed. Women have never had a significant plurality of elected positions (much less a majority) in the US.

When you can actually string a coherent thought together I might consider actually paying more than passing attention to your bleating. I’m certainly not going to spend any real effort trying to “rebut” you, because there’s nothing to rebut; nonsense can’t be rebutted. We can mock you, or ignore you.

Mocking has it’s fleeting pleasures (sort of like tolerable sex, it’s nice while it lasts, but not really memorable), so ignoring you is probably the best course of action.

But, if you want to keep buzzing about the place, someone is probably going to decide to swat you.

KathleenB
KathleenB
12 years ago

Ami: Yeah, that lasted quite awhile. I was actually living near downtown Denver when they won the cup in ’01 – not only was I mad that my team hadn’t made it, I got the singular joy of listening to Avs fans riot. Loudly.

Nephrite Yeqon
Nephrite Yeqon
12 years ago

Why would I listen to A Voice For Men telling me what feminism stands for? If I want to know what Christianity stands for, I ask Christians; if I want to know what the Republican party stands for, I ask Republicans; if I want to know what Marxism stands for, I read Marx. I don’t go ask the enemies about it; the enemies will probably lie.

And if you want to know what Neo-Nazis stand for, you ask Neo-Nazis right?

And if you want to know what Focus on the Family stands for you, you ask them, not a gay rights group right?

And if you want to know what the MRM stands for you, you ask Paul Elam, not David Futrelle right?

Nephrite Yeqon
Nephrite Yeqon
12 years ago

@Amy Angelwing

I bet you think you could last a second on a football field.

jumbofish
jumbofish
12 years ago

(please don’t take “basement” pejoratively. I’m sure there are also many MRM-influenced men hiding from the world and missing out on life in ground-level and upper-story dwellings.)

Hey basement dwellers aren’t all that bad!

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