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The Case for Chivalry (Note: It's really, really rapey.)

Chivalry: Good for dudes too.

MRAs, by and large, aren’t big fans of chivalry, and complain bitterly about the terrible injustices forced upon them by this archaic concept, like having to hold doors open for ladies from time to time.

But perhaps they are not considering the many fine benefits of chivalry. In the comments section of Alcuin’s pro-patriarchy blog, our traditionalist friend fschmidt recently set forth the case for chivalry in a way that even the dullest misogynist could appreciate:

In early western culture around the time of the Renaissance, chivalry meant that ladies should be honored and sluts should be raped. This is a totally sound concept and encourages good behavior on the part of women. You cannot expect women to behave if they are not rewarded for good behavior and punished for bad behavior.

Fschmidt’s opinion inspired a lively discussion. Caeser’s Ghost argued that fschmidt had gone a bit too far with the whole rape thing:

Women who dress and behave like whores shouldn’t be raped. They should be prostitutes and treated as such.

Fschmidt replied:

Caesar’s Ghost, I have the greatest respect for prostitutes. Prostitutes provide a valuable service. But sluts provide no value and undermine morality. This is why sluts, identified as provocatively dressed women outside of areas of prostitution, were regularly raped around the time of the Renaissance.

CG argued that prostitutes deserve only the most limited sort of respect:

I respect prostitutes in so far as they fulfill a lowly but necessary function in society. Outside of that function, I have no respect or value for them.

Promiscuous women who are not prostitutes should be treated badly, but I don’t believe that they should be raped. I regard the Renaissance as a great era, but I would have to disagree with their way of handling the problem of sluts.

The mission of Alcuin’s site is, as he states at the top of every page, is to “Promot[e] the Intellectual Renaissance of the Western Tradition.” Apparently you can’t have a real renaissance without sorting out whether or not sexually active women should be raped, or just treated like shit.

For those interested in exploring fschmidt’s opinions further, check out his not-terribly-popular CoAlpha Brotherhood discussion forums. Or this post, in which I examine his CoAlpha brother Drealm’s theory about how women oppress men by dressing like sluts and not covering up their evil sexy hair.

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kirbywarp
kirbywarp
12 years ago

yay! (>^_^<)

kirbywarp
kirbywarp
12 years ago

Who says feminist men don’t get pussy? >:D

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
12 years ago

Spooky sends nose rubs and snuggling.

Carrie
Carrie
12 years ago

There really is quite a bit of a rape obsession with these guys.

viola
12 years ago

I fuck like a bunny. A big, fluffy, vicious, sadistic bunny who likes being tied up and having his ears pulled.

Major Kong
Major Kong
12 years ago

“Women, out of respect for men, should dress in a way that doesn’t excite men.”

“Uncovered hair isn’t as much an immodesty crime, but I still feel raw long hair can excite men. Long hair’s affect on men can be counteracted with a scarf or veil.”

This presumably sounded better in the original Farsi.

ithiliana
12 years ago

raw long hair

??????????????????????????????????????

As opposed to, you know, COOKED long hair?

WTF?????????????????????????/

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
12 years ago

As an MRA I believe that long hair should always be stir-fried, like noodles. Anything else is misandrist.

fschmidt
12 years ago

It seems (surprisingly) that there is a commentator here who knows some history, namely ithiliana, and deserves a response. Yes it is correct that during the Medieval Period, women had more freedom. It is precisely the restrictions placed on women during the Renaissance, which were the result of a combination of chivalry with evolving Christian ethics, that enabled modern culture to develop. All successful cultures begin by regulating female sexual instinct which is incompatible with civilization.

I might as well also address MorgainePen, who is ignorant of history. Chivalry actually originated in Arab culture and was spread by Islam to Europe where it slowly developed over the Middle Ages.

lowquacks
lowquacks
12 years ago

raw long hair

??????????????????????????????????????

As opposed to, you know, COOKED long hair?

WTF?????????????????????????/

Someone’s never had a straightening-iron accident.

Crumbelievable
Crumbelievable
12 years ago

I fuck like a turtle.

hellkell
hellkell
12 years ago

Ha! The look on the female turtle’s face is priceless. “Are you done back there? You sound like a squeak toy.”

BlackBloc
BlackBloc
12 years ago

>>I have fantasies about pegging boys, but I never see “we’re just giving women what they secretly want” douchebags lining up to fulfill those.

There’s a line? Where?

Scar
Scar
12 years ago

Well, there’s a problem here.
You see, these sluts need to be raped, but paradoxically, men shouldn’t fuck sluts.
That’s why I invented the Rapebot Three Yhousand, the automated raping machine – co-coreated by Dr. Meller (PHD pending).
The rapebot is capable of raping up to three thousand women a day (hence the name), thereby solving the slut/rape crisis that faces any civilised Renaissance Rape society.
Why dirty your cock with rape when Rapebot can do the raping for you?
Rapebot – coming soon to stores near you!

ozymandias42
12 years ago

Um. Lust is fun. I like lusting after people. I am against any plan that leads to less lust-opportunity. (Well, maybe if it cures cancer.)

pillowinhell
12 years ago

You know, it never fails to amaze me what can get put on the net and not one blog policy has anything to say about rape blogs. This guy is clearly trying to incite rape, and given the prevalence of rape in these guys blogs….. They’re psyching themselves up to attempt one?

Still, not the worst rape post I’ve come across.

Jessonian: re the observation of alpha males and psychopaths being the same….I’ve had that thought before…

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
12 years ago

There’s something so sad about people who’re anti-lust. I can sort of see it if you think not lusting is a religious obligation (still your problem, though), but when people are all omg something incites lust that’s terrible and there doesn’t seem to be a religious reason I’m just left going, huh? Why is lust bad? Don’t you enjoy looking at sexy people? Weirdo.

lowquacks
lowquacks
12 years ago

Yeah, lust is fun.

Owlslave and similar seem to resent it as being someone else having control over them, I think.

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
12 years ago

Now I’m imagining him having sex.

“Mmm, that feels…you bitch! Stop trying to control me by making this feel good!”

lowquacks
lowquacks
12 years ago

I think DKM would be the best in bed of all the trolls here. He’d know how to turn all of partners on.

cloudiah
12 years ago

Just to move this into the modern era, Ron Paul was on Piers Morgan talking about abortion and rape. He said that as long as it was “honest rape” he would have the woman go to the emergency room for “a shot of estrogen.” I don’t know what’s scarier: his attitudes about women and abortion, or the fact that an OB-GYN could be so clueless about medicine.

hellkell
hellkell
12 years ago

Buh, what? A “shot of estrogen?” Ron Paul scares the bejesus out of me.

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
12 years ago

This man is an actual doctor, right? How did he pass the exams?

Kyso K.
12 years ago

I beg to differ. The best response to “How come I can’t say the n-word?” is:

“Why do you want to so badly?”

That’s too reasonable. I prefer “There’s no n-word police. You can say what you want.’ Then keep popcorn on hand for whatever happens next.

I never hear that line from people who hang out with, shall we say, enlightened crowds. They are always people who, outside of work, can probably be casually, archaically racist all day long with no repercussions.

ozymandias42
12 years ago

I’m not sure what’s more scary… that Ron Paul said that, or that he’s actually better than some of the candidates.