When is a slut not a slut? When he’s a dude. So says the (He)artist(e) formerly known as Roissy, in yet another post of his trying to prove that his brand of Pick-Up Assholery is fully proven by SCIENCE!
His evidence in this case? A recent study of speed dating that showed that (straight) women, in addition to being attracted to attractive men (duh!), also seem to be attracted to men with high “sociosexuality” ratings. “Sociosexuality,” for those not fully immersed in the SCIENCE!! of dating, is basically someone’s propensity for casual sex.
In other words, the study found that guys who do a lot of casual dating tended to do better at casual dating.
Heartiste/Roissy puts it this way:
Men who have high sociosexuality (HSS) are more attractive to women because the suite of characteristics associated with HSS suggest prior experience bedding women and possession of mating skills that attract women.
It’s akin to a form of preselection for men, minus the actual women he’s banging being physically present at his side to aid in the alpha judging process that all women, consciously or not, impose on their suitors.
In a very loose sense, high male sociosexuality is male sluttiness.
If you strip out the PUA nonsense about the “alpha judging process,” all this seems fairly self-evident, if not simply tautological. Guys who’ve been with a lot of women will probably do better with women in the future than guys with no experience who view women as strange alien creatures. (Note: In all this, we’re only talking about straight people; PUAs don’t seem aware that gay people exist, outside of their own fantasies of hot bi girl threesomes.)
It’s at this point that Heartiste/Roissy amps up the assholery:
Male sluttiness is not equivalent to female sluttiness. It is more difficult for a man to be slutty that it is for a woman owing to the discrepancy in worth between sperm and egg, so people justifiably perceive male sluts to have higher quality mate value, and higher quality mating skills, than female sluts for whom the act of sexual conquest is merely synonym for being easy.
In other words, it’s bad to be a female slut, but great to be a male slut:
[T]he study results confirm the validity of game when its conclusions find that male sociosexuality is a relatively powerful predictor of attractiveness to women, even to women looking for long-term relationships.
Not only can this SCIENCE!! of game help to get dudes laid – it can basically save the world from evil fat chicks.
It’s vital to readers to get this scientific information validating game out there, because there are a lot of doubters and haters who are blinded by what they won’t see. Sometimes, men need to know that there is an experimental foundation supporting all these seduction techniques and peculiarities of female behavior. It’s not necessary to know this stuff to start gaming chicks out in the field right now, but for men with a cynical bent or shy disposition, it helps to know that there are rules that govern human interaction. It may be the boost they need.
Turning former nerds into wily lotharios will help to put those uppity female sluts in their place:
[A] moment of candor. This blog is first and foremost a source of self-amusement, but it is also a true and real desire to teach and to see men succeed sexually and emotionally with women. Men who become better at attracting women increase their options in the mating market. Men with increased options cause women to behave better. Women behaving better redounds to the benefit of families, and to society.
And by “behave better”, I mean the whole panoply of awful modern female behavior: cheating, cock carouseling, divorcing on a whim, eat pray loving, straycationing, spinstering, attention whoring, voting and fattening up into repulsive dirigibles.
Yep, he did slyly insert “voting” into all that. Sneaky!
So slut it up, fellas! It’s the only way to put those evil lady sluts in their place. And, thereby, save the world from sex-having, vote-casting slatterns.
Aww..how special, I take a post-birth baby break (finally! he kept me waiting until over 42 weeks, silly kid)and come back to a new troll. How’d you know it’s just what I wanted?
That was pretty stunning, actually.
Nice to see you back and doing better Kirby.
http://www.thestar.com/news/article/1126228–occupy-toronto-activist-has-deep-roots-in-the-1-per-cent-world?bn=1
Oh this guy, besides being a jerk, reminds me of a few of our supposed “allies” (*coughhugocough*) and a number of concern trolls too >_>
Let’s see if I can get my first block quote ‘write’
…heheh
Imagine: if the game actually works as Heartiste plans and men get control of the (heterosexual) mating market. How would that stop women from voting? Would they be too busy grooming to fit arbitrary standards to fill out a ballot? Would first dates end up like so:
“Stacey, I really enjoyed my time tonight, but before I permit you to go on a second date with me, I must know: do you actively vote?”
“Well, I-”
“Because I would never add to my harem of hardbody options a woman who votes. They’re practically feminists!”
“Oh! Of course I’m not like one of those women! Stan, please, please don’t reject me! The market is just so tough these days!”
/cue dramatic music
Although, just like non-straight people don’t exist in this world, men who are interested in women with similar political opinions* wouldn’t exist either because fixing mating market means curing manginas.
* http://www.media.rice.edu/media/NewsBot.asp?MODE=VIEW&ID=15760
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, what these moronic PUAs don’t understand, and what MRAs don’t want to understand, is that treating women as equals gets men laid an awful lot.
Once men accept that women aren’t potential “conquests” but are instead sexual beings, the whole “sexual marketplace” idiocy falls apart.
Some men and women want monogamy. Some don’t. Some want BDSM. Some don’t.
Modern day feminism is, to a degree, about the continuation of sexual liberation. These PUA/MRA deadbeats miss out on an awful lot.
In more ways than one, they are confined by their sad, crackpot beliefs.
Happy: It’s because they are wretchedly insecure. As others have pointed out, when a man describes a virgin as the ideal sex partner, dollars to donuts he’s terrible at sex and knows it.
Geesh! I have to wonder how old last night troll is…only because genetics and sex dimorphism is taught in grade six for petes sake!
You know, I wonder how they think that guys having more sex is supposed to stop women from being sexual. Oh wait, its pure fantasy, no actual real life consequences needed.
Tee hee! Brazil is run by feminists, that’s why the men are statistically shorter than here. I think these guys need to get out more….
@Skyal
Congrats!!
I’m curious as fuck to see who nephrite is. Like CB said, they know a lot of in-jokes, I find it hard to believe that it’s just some random troll.
ersatzmoon
Gasp! But men are visual creatures! Men only select for looks! Nopthing else about a woman is importannnttt!
*troll head explodes*
Late to the party, I know, but: this was basically my last ex’s MO throughout most of our relationship. It backfired on him horribly, though – I got really sick of his self-esteem-ruining crap, and realized that the impersonal feminist movement actually loved me more than his individual self did. Because at least feminism believed I was a human being.
Now I am in an overtly feminist relationship. And it is awesome!
Hee, it’s the Moses of iPads!
Dani I’m glad to hear things are better now! I’ve been with a guy who has strong MRA leanings. I think he’s MGTOW now.
It’s a huge relief when you finally find a guy who respects you as a human being isn’t it? Who you don’t have to fight with over what your life experience is? I have a great relationship now too, and he’s feminist leaning so everything is awesome.
Its amazing how shocked sexist men get when you finally get angry enough about how you’re being treated to leave. Its a bolt from the blue to them.
Oh my yes. If I had a nickel for every time my ex said “But…but I’m not SEXIST!” while we were breaking up, I’d be rich. Hon, when your entire reason you think I shouldn’t do anything except serve your every need is that my XX chromosomes will irretrievably fuck up anything I touch, you’re sexist. Deal.
I’d be surprised if he’s not a full-blown MRA now. I’d say he was 85 percent there when I left. Sadly, when we started dating, he wasn’t that way AT ALL.
(Dear Trolls: before you say my ex changed because I turned into some shrieking feminist lawyer harpy – yeah, he said the same thing. And you’re both right! But my going to law school wasn’t the problem; his decision to take that as a threat and to respond by tearing me down at every possible opportunity was the problem. Had he decided to be enthusiastic about my accomplishments instead of threatened by them, we’d probably still be together.)
It took me *until now* to realize this wasn’t STAYcationing, i.e., when you don’t have money to go to the Bahamas so you stay home with your sweetie and have sex and go do stuff in your town. I guess this when your sweetie goes to the Bahamas alone, then comes back and says she had a fling with the pool boy?
HellKell, we should have an Austin ManBoobz Meetup!
Lol Molly Ren! Yeah that’s what they’re talking about. It comes down to…how dare those women go off on vacation without their hubbies! We won’t get into the fact that it was probably agreed on by both sides..
Dani, for me it wasn’t about my edumacation. It was his! We moved in together and he thought I put him through school! He had a good argument for it…better education meant better income for all of us, but when the guy was constantly going on about how tough his job was and how I wasn’t contributing anything (I worked full time, minimum wage, brought home enough to pay rent and most of the food bill and bills took every penny I had) yet would change jobs or shifts, give me three hours notice that I’d have to tell my boss that massive scheduling changes were needed…well. I put my foot down and said that if he wanted to go to school hed have to save for tuition and books. And he’d likely still need a job, because we would need a sitter to be paid for along with everything else. I would have been fired by any other boss, except mine saw what he was doing as part of the abuse cycle, so they accommodated my needs. I worked my ass off! But I was working.
Pillowinhell – boo for your ex, but yay for your boss!
In Michigan, if one spouse puts the other through school, the spouse who sacrificed to pay the bills and tuition and all that should get a cut of the benefits of the other spouse’s degree/training/etc. It only applies to married couples, though. I don’t know if any other state has a similar arrangement.
In hindsight, I’m amazed at my own ex’s cognitive dissonance when it came to me making the money. He wanted to live off my income, but at the same time, he pissed and whined and moaned about every second of it. He acted like he felt entitled to spend every red cent I made instead of making his own money (the main reason I never put him on any of my accounts), but that his spending what I made was some kind of personal favor to me because OMG THAT MONEY HAS GIRL COOTIES.
(Speaking of, it is time for me to go make money now instead of dinking around on the Internet like I have been for the past hour.) 😀
Julie, I’m down for a meetup.
Brandon–whatever.
And again, Brandon has nothing of his own to say.
Totally shocking, isn’t it, Pecunium? I liked him better on moderation, even more so when he wasn’t here.
Brandon – Waah! Women can get sex whenever they want! Women have it so easy! Waah!
Wow Brandon. That’s a really deep philosophy, like, the guys who think this way were able to peer deeply enough into their own navels to maybe see the belly button lint…
Sigh.
HellKell, my email is on my website. Ping me if you like!
@brandon: you and that comedian you like are both idiots.