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When is a slut not a slut? When he’s a dude.

I did a search for PUA and this showed up. So, fuck it, I'm going with it.

When is a slut not a slut? When he’s a dude. So says the (He)artist(e) formerly known as Roissy, in yet another post of his trying to prove that his brand of Pick-Up Assholery is fully proven by SCIENCE!

His evidence in this case? A recent study of speed dating that showed that (straight) women, in addition to being attracted to attractive men (duh!), also seem to be attracted to men with high “sociosexuality” ratings. “Sociosexuality,” for those not fully immersed in the SCIENCE!! of dating, is basically someone’s propensity for casual sex.

In other words, the study found that guys who do a lot of casual dating tended to do better at casual dating.

Heartiste/Roissy puts it this way:

Men who have high sociosexuality (HSS) are more attractive to women because the suite of characteristics associated with HSS suggest prior experience bedding women and possession of mating skills that attract women.

It’s akin to a form of preselection for men, minus the actual women he’s banging being physically present at his side to aid in the alpha judging process that all women, consciously or not, impose on their suitors.

In a very loose sense, high male sociosexuality is male sluttiness.

If you strip out the PUA nonsense about the “alpha judging process,” all this seems fairly self-evident, if not simply tautological. Guys who’ve been with a lot of women will probably do better with women in the future than guys with no experience who view women as strange alien creatures. (Note: In all this, we’re only talking about straight people; PUAs don’t seem aware that gay people exist, outside of their own fantasies of hot bi girl threesomes.)

It’s at this point that Heartiste/Roissy amps up the assholery:

Male sluttiness is not equivalent to female sluttiness. It is more difficult for a man to be slutty that it is for a woman owing to the discrepancy in worth between sperm and egg, so people justifiably perceive male sluts to have higher quality mate value, and higher quality mating skills, than female sluts for whom the act of sexual conquest is merely synonym for being easy.

In other words, it’s bad to be a female slut, but great to be a male slut:

[T]he study results confirm the validity of game when its conclusions find that male sociosexuality is a relatively powerful predictor of attractiveness to women, even to women looking for long-term relationships.

Not only can this SCIENCE!! of game help to get dudes laid – it can basically save the world from evil fat chicks.

It’s vital to readers to get this scientific information validating game out there, because there are a lot of doubters and haters who are blinded by what they won’t see. Sometimes, men need to know that there is an experimental foundation supporting all these seduction techniques and peculiarities of female behavior. It’s not necessary to know this stuff to start gaming chicks out in the field right now, but for men with a cynical bent or shy disposition, it helps to know that there are rules that govern human interaction. It may be the boost they need.

Turning former nerds into wily lotharios will help to put those uppity female sluts in their place:

[A] moment of candor. This blog is first and foremost a source of self-amusement, but it is also a true and real desire to teach and to see men succeed sexually and emotionally with women. Men who become better at attracting women increase their options in the mating market. Men with increased options cause women to behave better. Women behaving better redounds to the benefit of families, and to society.

And by “behave better”, I mean the whole panoply of awful modern female behavior: cheating, cock carouseling, divorcing on a whim, eat pray loving, straycationing, spinstering, attention whoring, voting and fattening up into repulsive dirigibles.

Yep, he did slyly insert “voting” into all that. Sneaky!

So slut it up, fellas! It’s the only way to put those evil lady sluts in their place. And, thereby, save the world from sex-having, vote-casting slatterns.

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Molly Ren
12 years ago

OH GOD NO I DON’T GET TO BANG A DUDE WHO THINKS WOMEN SUCK, HOW WILL I EVER GO ON?

Bostonian
12 years ago

Orange cupcakes with chocolate frosting?

Molly Ren
12 years ago

Strawberry with chocolate frosting?

hellkell
hellkell
12 years ago

Orange cupcakes with chocolate sounds delicious.

Bostonian
12 years ago

Strawberry with chocolate! That is a contender! I had not thought of that.

Ami Angelwings
12 years ago

Now I want to know this story about Captain Bathrobe’s college years… XD

Bostonian
12 years ago

I love orange and chocolate together as well. My kids really like strawberry cake though.

Quackers
Quackers
12 years ago

Go for strawberry and chocolate…yum!

kirbywarp
kirbywarp
12 years ago

@hellkell:

One of the unresolved mysteries then… 🙁

I wouldn’t be surprised if some of these dudes really did have girlfriends. Like it or not, there’s an entire world out there, with a lot of women who have barely heard of feminists. Especially for the trolls, who only bring out their douche-baggery online, it wouldn’t be too shocking.

@Jenn93:

I’m nearly positive that MRAs think that feminists must have the same fear of never having a significant other and hopelessness at connecting. We must, cause we’re all hairy and ugly and smelly.

Damn its hard to attack a world-view that’s been cemented with lack of evidence-based research and erected by years of living in an online bubble.

Ami Angelwings
12 years ago

How many trolls do we know that are avid AVfM readers btw? o_O

I know MRAL thinks AVfM is stupid… NWO is a Spearheader… the ppl at Feminist Critics seem to like AVfM though… oddly a lot of “moderate” MRAs (like Zeta Male) seem to like AVfM and claim it’s some moderate site.. -_o

Morgan
Morgan
12 years ago

@ Bostonian — Strawberry cupcakes with lemon frosting?!? Send me some, send me some, SEND ME SOME!!!!!!!!!! PLEEEAAZZZEEEEE??!?? Seriously, those sound delish! =D

*mops up drool*

Anyhoo, on topic — I see Roissy’s up to his usual brainless “theorizing”. I do wish this one were as funny as some of his past stuff though.

Bostonian
12 years ago

I think strawberry and chocolate will be the winner.

captainbathrobe
12 years ago

I think he just declared himself the winner forever. Not to mention someone who claims to have a disturbing level of familiarity with my penis.

Ami Angelwings
12 years ago

I wouldn’t be surprised if some of these dudes really did have girlfriends. Like it or not, there’s an entire world out there, with a lot of women who have barely heard of feminists. Especially for the trolls, who only bring out their douche-baggery online, it wouldn’t be too shocking.

Question is how long can they hold it in? :

Lauralot
Lauralot
12 years ago

Goddamn, the trolls of 2012 suck. This may truly be the end times.

Jenn93
Jenn93
12 years ago

@kirbywarp

It must really screw with them when they manage to get a date with pretty women who point out that their shit is sexist.

Bostonian
12 years ago

Yeah strawberry with lemon is very nice. I have done that for my oldest daughter’s birthday. Raspberry with lemon frosting is very good too.

hellkell
hellkell
12 years ago

Kirby, I’m sure some of these guys do have girlfriends, but I have a hard time believing those relationships are anything I’d go near with a barge pole. I bet even if the GFs aren’t feminists, the nasty attitudes held by these dudes seeps through IRL.

hellkell
hellkell
12 years ago

Bostonian, now you’re giving me a sad that it’s raining and the cupcake trailer down the street is probably closed.

If you ever find yourself in Austin, go here: http://www.heycupcake.com/

My husband and I thought people were foolish for lining up at a cupcake trailer. OMG, they are heaven.

Jenn93
Jenn93
12 years ago

Yah, I dated someone who turned out to be sexist, and it was pretty dysfunctional. the women who go out with the likes of them must have been tricked into believing they deserve them.

pillowinhell
pillowinhell
12 years ago

Well. That was just way too much fun! You guys always crack me up!!
Now I have to delete 14r messages sent to my phone over about half an hour….
I literally couldn’t type a word in edgewise because the posts were clipping along so fast.

I wonder if my pussy pass will get me a computer?

Aurora Borealis
Aurora Borealis
12 years ago

“Is she still recharging at the power socket from last night?”

Can we please not mock ametabolic women while we’re mocking misogynist assholes?

Also, has anybody here seen Evan? Like, at all. Even once in the last few days? Ever since asshole posted his “supportive” comment, I haven’t seen him post once. Not here, or on the blog. Please tell me I missed something on another thread and he’s still okay.

hellkell
hellkell
12 years ago

pillowinhell, go cry in front of the computer store. If it works for food, it might be worth a try. 😉

Bostonian
12 years ago

I will be down in Austin in March, actually. I will check them out!

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
12 years ago

@ Kirby

Nope. Like I said, I haven’t played in ages. You can play online?

@ Bostonian

I’d go for chocolate with coconut frosting, or the other way around. Do the kids like coconut?

“I’m nearly positive that MRAs think that feminists must have the same fear of never having a significant other and hopelessness at connecting. We must, cause we’re all hairy and ugly and smelly.

“Damn its hard to attack a world-view that’s been cemented with lack of evidence-based research and erected by years of living in an online bubble.”

Do you remember when in the middle of a thread where people were talking about their significant others Meller announced that obviously we were all lying, and single, and terribly unhappy about it because Real Men only date fluffy dollies? It’s hard to even begin engaging with that level of delusional bubble thinking.

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