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When is a slut not a slut? When he’s a dude.

I did a search for PUA and this showed up. So, fuck it, I'm going with it.

When is a slut not a slut? When he’s a dude. So says the (He)artist(e) formerly known as Roissy, in yet another post of his trying to prove that his brand of Pick-Up Assholery is fully proven by SCIENCE!

His evidence in this case? A recent study of speed dating that showed that (straight) women, in addition to being attracted to attractive men (duh!), also seem to be attracted to men with high “sociosexuality” ratings. “Sociosexuality,” for those not fully immersed in the SCIENCE!! of dating, is basically someone’s propensity for casual sex.

In other words, the study found that guys who do a lot of casual dating tended to do better at casual dating.

Heartiste/Roissy puts it this way:

Men who have high sociosexuality (HSS) are more attractive to women because the suite of characteristics associated with HSS suggest prior experience bedding women and possession of mating skills that attract women.

It’s akin to a form of preselection for men, minus the actual women he’s banging being physically present at his side to aid in the alpha judging process that all women, consciously or not, impose on their suitors.

In a very loose sense, high male sociosexuality is male sluttiness.

If you strip out the PUA nonsense about the “alpha judging process,” all this seems fairly self-evident, if not simply tautological. Guys who’ve been with a lot of women will probably do better with women in the future than guys with no experience who view women as strange alien creatures. (Note: In all this, we’re only talking about straight people; PUAs don’t seem aware that gay people exist, outside of their own fantasies of hot bi girl threesomes.)

It’s at this point that Heartiste/Roissy amps up the assholery:

Male sluttiness is not equivalent to female sluttiness. It is more difficult for a man to be slutty that it is for a woman owing to the discrepancy in worth between sperm and egg, so people justifiably perceive male sluts to have higher quality mate value, and higher quality mating skills, than female sluts for whom the act of sexual conquest is merely synonym for being easy.

In other words, it’s bad to be a female slut, but great to be a male slut:

[T]he study results confirm the validity of game when its conclusions find that male sociosexuality is a relatively powerful predictor of attractiveness to women, even to women looking for long-term relationships.

Not only can this SCIENCE!! of game help to get dudes laid – it can basically save the world from evil fat chicks.

It’s vital to readers to get this scientific information validating game out there, because there are a lot of doubters and haters who are blinded by what they won’t see. Sometimes, men need to know that there is an experimental foundation supporting all these seduction techniques and peculiarities of female behavior. It’s not necessary to know this stuff to start gaming chicks out in the field right now, but for men with a cynical bent or shy disposition, it helps to know that there are rules that govern human interaction. It may be the boost they need.

Turning former nerds into wily lotharios will help to put those uppity female sluts in their place:

[A] moment of candor. This blog is first and foremost a source of self-amusement, but it is also a true and real desire to teach and to see men succeed sexually and emotionally with women. Men who become better at attracting women increase their options in the mating market. Men with increased options cause women to behave better. Women behaving better redounds to the benefit of families, and to society.

And by “behave better”, I mean the whole panoply of awful modern female behavior: cheating, cock carouseling, divorcing on a whim, eat pray loving, straycationing, spinstering, attention whoring, voting and fattening up into repulsive dirigibles.

Yep, he did slyly insert “voting” into all that. Sneaky!

So slut it up, fellas! It’s the only way to put those evil lady sluts in their place. And, thereby, save the world from sex-having, vote-casting slatterns.

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kirbywarp
kirbywarp
12 years ago

@Halite:

Prepare yourself, I’m about to get sciencey (like choclatey for cereals, not actually chocolate):

Women have limited numbers of eggs. These eggs are used up when they have sex. Therefore, a woman who has had a lot of sex has used up her eggs, and therefore has no other quality that makes her an attractive mate.

Men have infinite sperm. These sperm are never used up. Therefore, men who have a lot of sex just gain experience and dashing good looks, which makes them more suitable for women who haven’t used up their eggs yet.

Logic!

ozyMRAndias
ozyMRAndias
12 years ago

You whiny feminist bitches deny the science behind Roissy’s words. Of course you do! A person’s value is rooted in their sexual value– life is pointless, we are tools of recombinant DNA, the only meaning is the fuck. So the acknowledgement that no one wants your aging, desiccated cunts, stretched out and sagging from a hundred big black cocks, is the acknowledgement that you are worthless human beings with manjaws and dark arm hair, waddling to the Whole Foods in between spurting meaningless bursts of equalist propaganda.

Spin, spin, hamsters.

Pecunium
12 years ago

So… Roissy says his aim in teaching men how to, “pump and dump” is to show women who like sex that liking sex is wrong because it will lead to them getting sex?

Truly a dizzying intellect.

Holly Pervocracy
12 years ago

Aren’t these the same guys who would completely lose their shit with “spermjacking harpy is trying to entrap me!!! PAPER ABORTION!!!” if they actually did fertilize an egg?

It’s interesting that sex (or rather, a woman’s sex) is the only skill that’s less valued with practice. If you were going to play tennis with someone and they told you “go easy on me, I’ve only done this a couple times,” you’d figure they wouldn’t be nearly as good as someone who’d played tennis thousands of times with many different partners.

The fact that Roissy and Co. don’t see a woman’s sexual skill as a positive makes me suspect they’re having really terrible sex. (Or really fictional sex.)

pillowinhell
12 years ago

Pecunium

It ties in with how women can’t survive without men providing for us. So if men are doing pump and dump, we’ll spend all our time with our legs spread for the next sperm dose or popping out kids. Eventually, when the fat supply runs ot we’ll starve.

ozyMRAndias
ozyMRAndias
12 years ago

Holly Pervocracy, you cockgobbling slut, a woman doesn’t have to be experienced to be good in bed. Sex isn’t rocket science: any girl who’s cute and likes you will suck you off, moan, run her hands along your back, and move a bit, which is all it takes to qualify as an acceptable lay. In fact, it’s better with inexperienced women because they don’t bark orders like a drill sergeant.

Pecunium
12 years ago

Halite: It’s got to do with “slutty”. In Roisspeak slutty means having sex which cheapens the inherent worth (as a person) of the person having sex.

Since, in Roissland, only women who refuse to have sex with anyone but him/you are valuable (because, eggs, and all), any women who has sex with whom she likes, when she likes, because she likes, is a slut.

Men can only be slutty if the women they are shagging lower their value in the Alpha/Beta/Gamma/Stupid of “GAME”. So convincing a hot chick (who’s a “slut”) to sleep with you (ideally under false pretenses, so she is of the idea you are, “The One” and then dumping her… thus making sure she’s a used up slut for the next guy, is, “Manly”,and not slutty (in the same way that making a man wait until marriage is, “womanly”, and wrong, because dudes need to get their dicks wet).

So it requires a man be willing to sleep with women who aren’t “hot” to end up a slut (which means he’s a Beta who is refusing to accept his lot in life being to have sex only with women who have been abused by Alphas, and had so much sex (three or four Alphas) that they are “all used up”, and bitter about how the “Hot Alpha Cock” won’t hammer their cervix all night, the way it used to be, before everyone could tell they had become “sluts”).

The pathetic losers who have sex with people they like, who aren’t hot… those are male sluts; out there undermining the plan to make all women become traditional, and virginal cock-teasing coquettes, which is what Roissy really wants, and is why he’s teaching men to be abusive assholes to every woman they meet.

Those sluts are fucking it up for the rest of us by convincing women they can have decent sex with anyone, not just the Alphas.

Bastards.

Scar
Scar
12 years ago

Nothing screams ‘virgin’ like a guy who complains about sexually experienced women.
I’ve never been able to fathom this idea of wanting to sleep with a string of sexually clueless women – that actually sounds like to opposite of fun to me!
(Obviously there’s nothing wrong with being a virgin, but this guy seems to think there is – if you’re a guy, that is)

Scar
Scar
12 years ago

P.S. I can’t wait until I’ve fattened up enough to become a repulsive dirigible, so that I can fly Feminazis into battle.
Zoooooooom! Whoooooooosh!

hellkell
hellkell
12 years ago

Having sex with a PUA must be the most boring activity on Earth. I can’t believe these guys go to all this trouble for those two minutes.

pillowinhell
12 years ago

Scar

It has to do with finding a woman who won’t know what gets her off or expect to get the same pleasure he does. Also, not having been in a relationship before, she’ll have nothing to compare his selfish, mastubatory style of sex to. AND, bonus, he can treat her like shit in other ways and she may think that’s what a relationship should be.

Not all virgin hunters are like that, but many are.

Holly Pervocracy
12 years ago

Hellkell – Two minutes of emotionless pleasureless awkward humping, years you can tell your bros about it.

I’ve long advocated for them to just cut the two minutes and go straight to the fun part, but I guess if they admit they’re doing that it ruins the payoff. It would be entertaining though.

“That’s nothing, bro. Last week I had sex with eighty-six women and they were all supermodels, except for the one that was a double supermodel. She only models fashions for other supermodels to wear. So yeah, I totally banged her and her twin sister in the morning before having a twenty-three-some at lunch.”

pillowinhell
12 years ago

Scar…LOL LOL LOL!

Hellkell, when you put it like that…you’re right. What is the point. Oh wait, its so they can have self esteem, and they only way to have that is by grinding everyone else into the mud. Silly lady brained me…

Crumbelievable
Crumbelievable
12 years ago

I’ve studied quite a bit on how to become a PUA, or “Pick-up Anteater”. You want to start by negging the ants so that their self-esteem lowered. Tell the ant, “Hey, I bet you can’t even life half your body weight” or “Oh, you’re an ant. At first I was confusing you for one of my droppings”. Then assert your alpha dominance by shaking your bristly tail and showing your sharp talons.

Crumbelievable
Crumbelievable
12 years ago

can’t even lift*

carswell
carswell
12 years ago

The fact that Roissy and Co. don’t see a woman’s sexual skill as a positive makes me suspect they’re having really terrible sex. (Or really fictional sex.)

The former, I suspect – especially as they’re so opposed to feminine sluttiness.

pillowinhell
12 years ago

Well, I suppose that if I HAD to screw a guy like roissy, I could lie still for the two minutes it took him, and get my shopping list figured out.

Just lie back and think of England.

pillowinhell
12 years ago

Scar, we should use the PUAs as repulsive dirigibles, their full of enough hot air.

Amphitrite
Amphitrite
12 years ago

Know what this post needs? More sex-bots. 20 years and Roissy’s breed is nothing more than dehydrated corpses clutching shiny dolls in dusty rooms.

Scar
Scar
12 years ago

Okay, I had to draw me as a repulsive dirigible:

http://i373.photobucket.com/albums/oo176/vexing_times/dirigible.jpg

cloudiah
12 years ago

@Crumbelievable and @Scar — You both made me spit out my water laughing, for which I am grateful.

pillowinhell
12 years ago

Scar that picture is awesome! Now quick! Post it on the mRA site, maybe they’ll think the invasion has started and hide under their beds!

I’ll defrost the frozen clone army, some else needs to get out the slobbering crotch maws.

PosterformerlyknownasElizabeth

“That’s nothing, bro. Last week I had sex with eighty-six women and they were all supermodels, except for the one that was a double supermodel. She only models fashions for other supermodels to wear. So yeah, I totally banged her and her twin sister in the morning before having a twenty-three-some at lunch.”

Maybe the women should just offer to sign affidavits saying they TOTALLY REALLY HONESTLY had sex with these guys with language in teeny tiny print saying “no, this is just so I can avoid having bad sex with an irritating little monster.”

Noadi
12 years ago

For some reason Scar’s picture just made me get “Ride of the Valkyries” stuck in my head.

Dracula
Dracula
12 years ago

The fact that Roissy and Co. don’t see a woman’s sexual skill as a positive makes me suspect they’re having really terrible sex. (Or really fictional sex.)

Six of one, half-dozen of the other, I’d wager.

It really amazes me that people who claim to be all about casual sex can so fucking prudish.

By the way, Scar, you’re brilliant.