When is a slut not a slut? When he’s a dude. So says the (He)artist(e) formerly known as Roissy, in yet another post of his trying to prove that his brand of Pick-Up Assholery is fully proven by SCIENCE!
His evidence in this case? A recent study of speed dating that showed that (straight) women, in addition to being attracted to attractive men (duh!), also seem to be attracted to men with high “sociosexuality” ratings. “Sociosexuality,” for those not fully immersed in the SCIENCE!! of dating, is basically someone’s propensity for casual sex.
In other words, the study found that guys who do a lot of casual dating tended to do better at casual dating.
Heartiste/Roissy puts it this way:
Men who have high sociosexuality (HSS) are more attractive to women because the suite of characteristics associated with HSS suggest prior experience bedding women and possession of mating skills that attract women.
It’s akin to a form of preselection for men, minus the actual women he’s banging being physically present at his side to aid in the alpha judging process that all women, consciously or not, impose on their suitors.
In a very loose sense, high male sociosexuality is male sluttiness.
If you strip out the PUA nonsense about the “alpha judging process,” all this seems fairly self-evident, if not simply tautological. Guys who’ve been with a lot of women will probably do better with women in the future than guys with no experience who view women as strange alien creatures. (Note: In all this, we’re only talking about straight people; PUAs don’t seem aware that gay people exist, outside of their own fantasies of hot bi girl threesomes.)
It’s at this point that Heartiste/Roissy amps up the assholery:
Male sluttiness is not equivalent to female sluttiness. It is more difficult for a man to be slutty that it is for a woman owing to the discrepancy in worth between sperm and egg, so people justifiably perceive male sluts to have higher quality mate value, and higher quality mating skills, than female sluts for whom the act of sexual conquest is merely synonym for being easy.
In other words, it’s bad to be a female slut, but great to be a male slut:
[T]he study results confirm the validity of game when its conclusions find that male sociosexuality is a relatively powerful predictor of attractiveness to women, even to women looking for long-term relationships.
Not only can this SCIENCE!! of game help to get dudes laid – it can basically save the world from evil fat chicks.
It’s vital to readers to get this scientific information validating game out there, because there are a lot of doubters and haters who are blinded by what they won’t see. Sometimes, men need to know that there is an experimental foundation supporting all these seduction techniques and peculiarities of female behavior. It’s not necessary to know this stuff to start gaming chicks out in the field right now, but for men with a cynical bent or shy disposition, it helps to know that there are rules that govern human interaction. It may be the boost they need.
Turning former nerds into wily lotharios will help to put those uppity female sluts in their place:
[A] moment of candor. This blog is first and foremost a source of self-amusement, but it is also a true and real desire to teach and to see men succeed sexually and emotionally with women. Men who become better at attracting women increase their options in the mating market. Men with increased options cause women to behave better. Women behaving better redounds to the benefit of families, and to society.
And by “behave better”, I mean the whole panoply of awful modern female behavior: cheating, cock carouseling, divorcing on a whim, eat pray loving, straycationing, spinstering, attention whoring, voting and fattening up into repulsive dirigibles.
Yep, he did slyly insert “voting” into all that. Sneaky!
So slut it up, fellas! It’s the only way to put those evil lady sluts in their place. And, thereby, save the world from sex-having, vote-casting slatterns.
So…if we believed in equality we would lobby to have rapists released? Because we should believe that convicted rapists always tell the truth, in spite of the evidence? OK…sure, whatever you say, sparky. Keep fucking that chicken. False equivalence is false.
Really? I’m 5’2 and can reach the tops of shelves just fine, with a ladder. And holy moly! When that 5’2 guy needs to reach the top of the shelf, he uses a ladder too!
Can you even read?
That’s what I said.
okay, you win Nephral, menz are stronger. I guess you’ll have to go dig ditches and do construction and stuff without us women *le sigh* ah well…that’s biology for you. Have fun!
OFFS, stupid HTML! { and } get replaced by the less than and greater than brackets. A smrt, I haz one!
I guess you’ll have to go dig ditches and do construction and stuff without us women
Is that a threat? We’ve been digging all the ditches and making all of the buildings since civilization began.
Why don’t people ever realize that saying shit like this means they’ve already decided women are inadequate?
If I wrote, “If MRAs cared about equal treatment they would be outside fire houses lobbying that the men who are a danger to their team and the public should be fired rather than lobbying that more incapable men are hired” they’d be like, “HOLD UP! Why do you want those poor dudes fired? You haven’t even *met* them! Where’s the stats showing how many particular fires these guys fucked up on? Don’t they even get an employee review?”
So…if we believed in equality we would lobby to have rapists released? Because we should believe that convicted rapists always tell the truth, in spite of the evidence?
You believe that accusers always tell the truth, in spite of the evidence. Equal treatment right?
RE GWW, eh. She seems like a pretty miserable person, let her enjoy basking in the attention until they inevitably find a reason to hate her.
“MRA erases male rape survivors!” Come on, Nephrite, all I need is a “men are beasts who can’t be expected not to rape women” and I’ll have MRAs Suck At Men’s Rights Bingo.
Also, let me explain this from the beginning. Nephrite, the reason some people have vaginas and some people have penises is called “chromosomes.” People with vaginas usually have two X chromosomes; people with penises usually have an X chromosome and a Y chromosome. These chromosomes code for other traits too, such as male-pattern baldness and hemophilia. HOWEVER, except for the Y chromosome, ALL OF THE GENOME is broadly the same between people with penises and people with vaginas. Therefore, they can be said to have “the same genes,” the same way I and my sister can be said to have “the same genes.”
Yes, as a feminist I just have to admit the huge privilege of asshats like you walking in and spewing the same pointless drivel. Wow. What. A. Huge. Privilege.
Because there are *many* variations in height, weight, IQ, etc. when you’re looking at individuals in a population of either/any gender? You realize that by limiting the outcomes of the argument to “men and women being all the same” and “men being taller” you’re missing a whole lot, right?
Just answer me this. On average who is taller as a group, men or women?
I doubt it’s FactFinder, too coherent to be Samuel, not narcissistic enough for Brandon. Could be aMiRA…
Nephrite is very difficult to argue against. For one thing, zie seems to be conjuring up the Feminism Collective’s stance on an issue out of thin air. And then height, for some reason…
@Nephrite Yeqon:
MRAs want to treat people equally [citation needed]. That means that we don’t pretend somebody who is 5’4″ can reach the same shelves as somebody who is 6’4″. That’s what feminism wants [citation very much needed].
Why is it that the most common argument against a group fighting for equality is “But people aren’t exactly the same!!! Therefore racism/misogyny/etc.” It’s as if they’re being purposefully obtuse about what the group means by equality… Congrats, Nephrite, on going to the next stage and agreeing (nominally) with what feminists actually want, while simultaneously misrepresenting them. *golf clap*
Feminist Critics is blazingly stupid. I remember when they were like “Well, what about CONSCRIPTION! Women have the vote in the western world, but men can still be draaaafteeeeed”, leaving aside the minor real world problem that pretty much only France has a problem with conscripts risking their lives. Nobody else, if even France does, is sending conscripts to Iraq/Afghanistan, and there’s not going to be a defensive war until Nukes are removed.
Which is a shame, but at least htey’re not *hateful* idiots, right up until they try backing Girl Writes What. That’s a serious step up from most antifeminists.
RE GWW, eh. She seems like a pretty miserable person, let her enjoy basking in the attention until they inevitably find a reason to hate her.
Which videos are you watching? Or are you just jealous?
Also, let me explain this from the beginning. Nephrite, the reason some people have vaginas and some people have penises is called “chromosomes.” People with vaginas usually have two X chromosomes; people with penises usually have an X chromosome and a Y chromosome. These chromosomes code for other traits too, such as male-pattern baldness and hemophilia. HOWEVER, except for the Y chromosome, ALL OF THE GENOME is broadly the same between people with penises and people with vaginas. Therefore, they can be said to have “the same genes,” the same way I and my sister can be said to have “the same genes.”
Thank you. Finally somebody gets it. Now can you explain this to your idiot blonde friend?
“You only fight for unequal treatment.”
I think you mean to say “You only fight against unequal treatment.”
If true, I don’t see the problem. Seriously there is only so much energy i can put into anything on any given day. if i have to pick my battles, I’m picking the ones that I can relate to on a personal level. Doesn’t mean i don’t speak out on anything else.
Asshat: You made the claim, you back it up. Are men taller as a group than women? Does this vary by country (indicating the possibility of outside factors like nutrition or childhood diseases)?
YAY KIRBY IS BACK! 😀
*HUGS KIRBY HUGE*
i missed you 🙁 we were such a good team.
I was supposed to watch her videos? Her writing is bad enough…
ok…so go dig your ditch you big strong tall man you! no one’s stopping you and you made it clear that you think women are too weak to do laborious menz work….so stop complaining 😀
Yeah, it’s the old “you people should be fighting for the causes I support, otherwise you’re all hypocrites!” gambit. Been there, seen that, bought the tee-shirt–and it wasn’t a very good tee-shirt.
Asshat: You made the claim, you back it up. Are men taller as a group than women? Does this vary by country (indicating the possibility of outside factors like nutrition or childhood diseases)?
What are you talking about? I already said that men are taller as a group than women. I give you a citation. You’re the ones claiming equal distribution.
@Ami:
Oh my blonde friend, shall we make mincemeat of this new troll, for old times sake?
It is playing all the MRA greatest hits, up to and including “we hunted the mammoth.”